Re: Tata H5X Concept @ Auto Expo 2018. Named Tata Harrier! EDIT: Launched @ Rs. 12.69 lakhs Finally, after long wait, I could check out the Harrier today. As much as I wanted, couldn't find time earlier from my hectic schedule. I went to Arya Motors, Sector 14, Gurgaon; the place abuzz with lots of customers, most of them wanted to check out Harrier. The Sales advisor was friendly, but was unable to offer much about the product. There was one silver Harrier getting some parts replaced (front grill area), couldn't get more details on that.
Coming to the product itself, most has been already shared in this thread. So, I'll just focus on points that impressed/ troubled me. - It's huge, a 5 seater in space for 7 seater. Boot space is like living room.
- Exterior is also good, overall stance is excellent; but hood is bit too high for my liking (when I looked from front). Alloy wheel design is boring.
- Interiors are awesome, materials, fit and finish, Tata has seriously upped the game. Wood finish inserts looked tasteful (at some places the protective plastic film was removed, so true colour/ texture was visible). I don't have much sense of colour/ shade, but my wife was impressed with the interior theme. For me that says a lot about Harrier.
- Rear seat has recess for headrests, so the headrests won't poke into neck/ back if set low.
- C/D pillars are really pillars, very thick, constrain rearward view badly. The cladding around rear wiper doesn't help either.
- As many members have reported, parking brake handle seems flimsy. I couldn't believe Tata screwed up on this part while they focused on rest of the interiors. Though I think it won't have any functional concerns. It's light to apply and has smooth operation (high lever ratio ?).
Now, about the debated seating position : - At 5'9'', I am of average height, not very short but with heavy built. Then also, in my current vehicle (Vitara Brezza), I drive with driver seat at the highest position for better overall view.
- I tried the same in Harrier, but found the sunvisor in my vision cone. Also, steering wheel felt bit low (even when set to highest position). When I moved my left leg to press clutch, my knee hit the centre console. My wife (5'2") had none of these issues. Conclusion : Highest position in Harrier is only for short height people.
- Then I lowered the seat height to have clear forward view. All the issues faced earlier disappeared; except two. Even in this position, the armrest was useless. Too short & too low. Big miss I must say, that too in a premium offering. In Brezza, arm rest is practical and comfortable for me.
- With the seat position set, when I tried to get off the vehicle, my left knee got struck with steering column and my head hit the door frame. It was difficult to come out. So, even this seat position can't be used by me.
![Frustration](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/Frustration.gif) Test Drive (Good bits) :- Steering is light. Brakes are excellent; had to make a hard stop as an idiot in front of me decided to take a sharp left turn without indication.
- Gears are sorted out for city traffic, it can be driven in 3rd gear for most of the time.
- ORVMs are huge and thick A-pillars didn't cause any trouble as I am used to moving my head-around for better view.
- Couldn't take it to open road and check it on higher speeds.
Test Drive (Not-so-Good bits) :- Clutch pedal is too too light and has very short travel. The vehicle lunged forward as clutch got released very fast. I almost hit my own vehicle that was parked bit ahead. It will take some time to get used to. Still, partial-clutch driving/ climb (whenever required) might be a tricky affair.
- Vehicle itself feels heavy while driving; and combined with length, I suspect it'll easily sway its tail on sharp steering inputs. Like driving a fully loaded 7 seater. It's good that ESP is included in package, but not sure if I'll be confident to attempt any quick steer maneuvers that I can easily perform in Brezza.
- While on road, particularly in city traffic, can't just rely on IRVM. Need more awareness of surroundings, it's easy to loose bikers behind thick pillars.
Test Drive (Bad bits) :- Too much vibrations (right from idling to well upto 2000 rpm) on steering wheel, gear shift lever and seat back. I really felt uncomfortable during the whole test drive. I hope this was just an isolated vehicle with something really off. May be this vehicle is from those initial batch vehicles. BHPians who have taken TD, please share your experience. If my schedule permits, I will go to another dealer for TD to verify this.
- Engine sounded harsh right from the word go. It is mentioned that this is a de-tuned Jeep Compass engine, which in my opinion, should not have major mechanical changes. But, it felt nothing like that. Did Tata missed critical NVH packaging ? Could be the issue with this particular TD vehicle ?
At highest position of seat : my knee hits the console while operating clutch At seat position with clear vision cone : my knee is clear of the console while operating clutch Arm rest is useless Rear view is very constrained; cladding around rear wiper eats up whatever view is left. Also, notice the recess on rear seat for headrests. My knee hits steering column while coming out Quote:
Originally Posted by micraft But the logistics charge and basic accessories remain at 9500/- and 8500/- respectively. | Quote:
Originally Posted by soji You could ask them to exclude the accessories and add some of your own. The 8500 for a set of mats and mud flaps isn't justified. You might choose to add the moulded mats, flaps and other accessories of your choice for this price. |
Taking any add-on like basic accessories, extended warranty, insurance from dealer, engine protect cover is at customer's discretion. Since, dealers have commission/ targets on each of these, they present these as mandatory. I have successfully dropped some/all of such add-ons for myself, friends, family at dealers of various OEMs. It just needs a polite but firm stand.
Can't say so about the logistics charge.
Last edited by AutoNoob : 11th March 2019 at 01:07.
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