Re: First impressions Quote:
Originally Posted by neil.jericho
A forum is only worthwhile if there is content posted on it. If people don't post their perspectives and findings, this would be like most other forums in India. Dead. And then nobody learns and benefits. Would you suggest as Team BHPians, we find issues in cars and keep quiet about it?
I fail to see your perspective here, so maybe you can help me understand. You suggest that you could hypothetically deceive fellow TBHPians (and non TBHPian readers) by willingly showing incorrect photos of a car and you compare that hypotethical situation to actual observations made by TBHPians in showrooms across the country under the watchful eye of the company salespeople?
I don't recall anyone stating that. The questions that I saw were related to inconsistent quality output from an automated process. Now if an automated process cannot deliver on higher output, then certainly TBHPians will be curious as to the reasons. If other auto manufacturers can improve quality levels with automation, why cant Tata? |
Yes a forum is intended to post some content on it. We have contents on many manufacturers here and i do read through all of them. I am not suggesting anyone not to post here.
Since you fail to see my perspective here let me explain - I am not being hypothetical nor intend to deceive anyone, i just want to say that the soft fibre linings etc when pulled on any car flexes, its not just TATA and hence i can show the same on my car or any other car. After reading continuous panel gap posts here i started my observations on other cars here in USA. Big Suvs have more gaps, bigger tolerances (intended) while some hatches and sedans have tight ones. Hence i did mention i can post the photos of panel gaps on many other brands too which clearly have inconsistencies. Now again i don't mean to say that TATA or Mahindra should also have these, but these are inherent.
While you speak about automated processes etc get into the depth of how BIW is manufactured too. The doors, bonnet and boot is not welded onto the main body. Its bolted onto the hinges and the lock, striker and rubber stoppers are used to adjust the gaps and the way it fits. So lets excuse the robotic welding assembly lines here.
Having said that i do agree that humans should check every car with the panel gauges they have on the assembly lines and try to adjust to the best possible tolerances and specifications.
My observation is very much inline with @tushky, somehow i feel since its TATA we are being critical. I feel if we start looking at other side of the coin too readers / prospective buyers will be benefited.
TATA and the showrooms should take utmost care and a daily review of the display cars to take out inconsistencies as much as possible. Quote:
Originally Posted by FrodoOfTheShire Absolutely spot on! Media drive, showroom display and test drive cars should be as flawless as possible because these are the cars that'll convert prospects into customers. And Tata trying to climb up the "premium" ladder and in the process of overhauling its image cannot afford such misses, especially after the hype created by its marketing team!
Is it possible that the media drive cars (pre-production) were bought by the dealers at bargain prices to use as showroom display/demo cars? Could that explain the quality issues and/or deterioration of the parts highlighted? |
True, they should keep the cars clean and defect free. Infact the media cars are handled by special teams and reviewed after every test drive. Media cars are sometimes abused.
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