[sreejinair]

Originally Posted by sharninder

Does anyone know what's the process to cancel the online booking made earlier? Their email doesn't have any details. Since it's almost certain there won't be an automatic at launch, I'm thinking of cancelling my booking in a couple of days.

I suggest you wait for 2 weeks before you cancel anything. I didnt book anything because I cant without driving anything. Since there are a few more vehicles launching in 2019 in this segment, I thought its better to wait.MG, Kia, etc

[v6kgang]

Originally Posted by sharninder

Does anyone know what's the process to cancel the online booking made earlier? Their email doesn't have any details. Since it's almost certain there won't be an automatic at launch, I'm thinking of cancelling my booking in a couple of days.

I remember reading in one of the confirmation emails that we need to contact the Showroom selected for cancellation event if it was an online payment. I am in the same frame of mind, but going to withhold booking for at least another couple of weeks until I get a clear picture in AT. I am in no mood to buy a manual however nice and well kitted it may be ...

[LeoMachine]

Originally Posted by sharninder

Does anyone know what's the process to cancel the online booking made earlier? Their email doesn't have any details. Since it's almost certain there won't be an automatic at launch, I'm thinking of cancelling my booking in a couple of days.

As per booking confirmation email, the trim details will be officially out by mid December which is when one should decide whether to hold or cancel. I'm waiting for official details to be out post which I'll proceed with cancellation if no Auto on offer. I like most of the features, dimensions etc but Auto is non-negotiable for me. Fingers crossed. Cancellation has to be initiated through dealer is what I was informed by my dealer here though I think even they don't have much details of cancellation process yet. When I informed them about my decision to cancel, they requested me to wait for official word from TML on trim details.

[rovingeye]

Can someone start a poll to check how many want to buy the auto and how many want the manual?

[r0ckstar.1]

Originally Posted by rovingeye

Can someone start a poll to check how many want to buy the auto and how many want the manual?

This is definitely good data to collect within this thread..

Noob question: How do we start a poll?

[Guna]

Originally Posted by sharninder

Does anyone know what's the process to cancel the online booking made earlier? Their email doesn't have any details. Since it's almost certain there won't be an automatic at launch, I'm thinking of cancelling my booking in a couple of days.

As it is almost confirmed that there is no AT, AWD, I am going to cancel my booking. In any case I wanted a 7 seater and i was hoping that it will be made available in 2-3 months after launching the 5 seater. 7 seater is said to be showcased only during AutoExpo 2019.

[volkman10]

Harrier - No AT at launch - Details

Engine and transmission options are limited

Tata didn’t have too much of a choice when it came to selecting the powertrain for the Harrier as there were not too many transverse engines available that would suit the Harrier’s weight and size. Tata Motors were in talks with VM Motori and even Hyundai to source an appropriate diesel but finally zeroed in on the Fiat 2.0 turbo-diesel. What tipped the decision in Fiat’s favour is that this engine, which powers the Jeep Compass, was being locally made, providing a massive cost benefit. Another aspect that adds to the engine’s cost effectiveness is that the Fiat engine is made at the Ranjangaon facility that is jointly owned by Fiat and Tata.

However, the Harrier could not use the Compass’s 9-speed DCT automatic as the transmission isn’t rated to take the load of the heavier Harrier. Again, Tata Motors shopped around, and after talks with a few transmission suppliers like Aisin, finalised the Hyundai 6-speed torque converter auto ‘box. However, the delay in closing the deal with Hyundai has meant there will be no automatic transmission option at launch.

The Harrier is unlikely to get a petrol option in a hurry either. The Fiat 1.4 MultiAir would be an obvious option but again the Harrier’s gross vehicle weight (GVW) which is significantly heavier than the Compass, rules out this option too.

Tata Motors might consider at a later stage a sporty version of the Harrier powered by JLR’s 240hp 2.0-litre Ingenium engine.

At launch, the Harrier will come with just one engine and transmission option – a Fiat 140hp, 2.0-litre diesel and 6-speed gearbox.

Link

[sachinayak]

An important quote from the link shared above

The seven-seater will get both manual and automatic options from launch.

[Durango Dude]

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...secrets-410646

Tata Harrier gestation according to ACI

[vibbs]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Harrier - No AT at launch - Details

So that seals it then. So much hype with controlled leaks and all but all ending with the disappointing news of no AT at launch. These soft roaders will spend a lot of their time in cities which means an AT would be no-brainer. What a shame this is considering the fact that they had so much time and yet could not find a suitable AT to go with the engine. It may or may not effect the numbers overall, but I am out till they have one. Or maybe I will get a Hexa.

Also what about the price leak now? No way they can have a 21 lakhs on road price without either Auto and AWD.

[r0ckstar.1]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Harrier - No AT at launch - Details

Well, this looks like pretty much a confirmation

The same article also Says -

"It’s no secret that a three-row, seven-seater derivative of the Harrier is under development but how different will it be? The biggest difference will be in terms of length. To accommodate a third row, the seven-seater Harrier will be 62mm longer than the five-seater, but there will be no change in the wheelbase. The seven-seater will also be powered by the same 2.0-litre Fiat diesel but with a higher output of over 170hp. The seven-seater will get both manual and automatic options from launch."

IT looks like atleast a year wait for the 7-seater (Safari) and an Auto transmission for both Harrier and Safari.

[sharninder]

Originally Posted by r0ckstar.1

Well, this looks like pretty much a confirmation
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wheelbase. The seven-seater will also be powered by the same 2.0-litre Fiat diesel but with a higher output of over 170hp. The seven-seater will get both manual and automatic options from launch."[/i]

Well, they said the same thing when the 5 seater was being announced so I will take that with a grain of salt. Also, I feel this is atleast 1.5-2 years away, which is too long. I have no interest in a manual for my next vehicle. I might now go for either the Creta or the Verna, given that I'm not so particular about an SUV vs a sedan.

I'm going to call the dealership in a day or two and figure out the cancellation formalities. I hope they're not a pain. This launch has been a disappointment and even more so because it's not because of any technical limitations, just because the project probably wasn't handled well and they just didn't have time to find a proper gearbox.

[r0ckstar.1]

Originally Posted by sharninder

Well, they said the same thing when the 5 seater was being announced so I will take that with a grain of salt. Also, I feel this is atleast 1.5-2 years away, which is too long, I feel. I have no interest in a manual for my next vehicle.

Agree..The Indian buyer transition from Manual to Auto has been really fast and that extra lakh for an Automatic isn't really a blocker anymore for anyone shelling out more than 15+ lakh in my opinion. Come 2020, the discussion will be about how good the Hyundai 6-Speed Auto-tranny would be in comparison to the 9-speed DCT or other better Autos offered by competition..Looks like Tata will always be in a catch-up game and never the front-runner to lead the market..

[ihrishi]

Originally Posted by rovingeye

Also what about the price leak now? No way they can have a 21 lakhs on road price without either Auto and AWD.

I hope that they do not kill a good product and price it sanely. Otherwise its just going to be DOA.

While I will probably wait for the AT, the 'No AT at launch' is really disappointing.

[uday.ere]

What a stunning pic!!