New Zen Estilo Launched

GeekSrik · 16th December 2006, 10:29

I m pissed off with the fact maruti has not considered an automatic version for Estilo and probably also for forthcoming cars.

Its quite unfortunate in india that just becuase an automatic guzzles fuel, there is no automatic in the market. I mean what happened to catering to customer choices? And marutis automatics will obviously be a bit better than the hyundais perhaps by a couple of km per litre of fuel.

A car with CNG + automatic could possibly trigger of a revolution in this country. Although trends to point that people are moving that direction, i think by the time proper automatics are launched, one has to wait forever.

ravibhat · 16th December 2006, 13:01

ZEN Estilo except for its look nothing great package for sure. Its like mini van (small brother of Innova) but its cramped, what I expect if its smallor big car If space inside is cramped one front / back it don't make any sense to go for that car. ZEN Estilo is another example of Maruti producing cramped cars.

I liked its look for sure! I feel its great car to gift your lady but no automatic version :(

Regards,

Ravi.

GTO · 16th December 2006, 13:14

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Like you said I dont think the Fiat Linea is going to materialise as per media hype , I mean it sounds too too too too good to be true . Imagine the car beig badged as a Alfa with a 1.9JTD pumping out 140 bhp , Holy God ! pray for Skoda and anything near it ....coz I dont think u can make a car so beautiful, me being a Maserati fan , I am praying everyday ,

Totally with you on the looks. I am bowled over by the muscular yet conservative lines of the Linea. I hate funky modern designs.

However, there is little chance that the Linea will ever be branded as an Alfa for India.

Mpower · 16th December 2006, 19:08

Right now it looks like a head to head battle between Santro and Estillo.

Anybody have some hard numbers to prove which one has a bigger interoir. All first impressions are suggesting the Estillo is cramped but so is the Santro IMHO.

kvish · 16th December 2006, 20:02

Happened to passby a demo car...(which was being demo'ed quite brutally

after all what are test drives for...)

The back looks better than the photo...but definitely an innova baby....
The front is also good...but somehow the dashboard inside has a bit of a vague design....the first thing you observe in that car is the dashboard...somehow its over prominent...
But I found that the driver was finding it quite effortless...may be a very easy to drive car...tyres look narrow (and small) , I think that was to increase fuel efficiency...

I think it will give Santro a run for its money...but Hyndai have always been good marketers (eyewashers) so they will surely hit back...

CrAzY dRiVeR · 16th December 2006, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Right now it looks like a head to head battle between Santro and Estillo.

Anybody have some hard numbers to prove which one has a bigger interoir. All first impressions are suggesting the Estillo is cramped but so is the Santro IMHO.

IMHO too, Santro is also cramped, and the rear suspension doesnt work like it should... Thats why i liked wagonR even though Santro engine was a bit more nicer to drive...

nickatnite · 17th December 2006, 01:25

Zen Estilo!.Another "dabba" from "dabbawalla" Maruti Udyog.Fancy hispanic name doesn't change a thingy!.

mithun · 17th December 2006, 06:18

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Anybody have some hard numbers to prove which one has a bigger interoir. All first impressions are suggesting the Estillo is cramped but so is the Santro IMHO.

So what's you opinion about WagonR ?

elf · 17th December 2006, 14:36

I quite like it.

Look at the pricing, the competition & the target audience. It's close to perfect. It's an all new (for India) car. Maruti have only chosen to keep the Zen name to retain brand loyalty.

The styling is perfect for an urban vehicle. Small, but with an efficient use of available space. A bit derivative & bland maybe, but so what? It's mass market.

And somebody cribbing because it doesn't have steering wheel controls is just plain silly - (name me one car in this price range anywhere on the planet that does). Don't expect higher trim / equipment / sophistication for two reasons - one being that it's just in the entry level plus category, & secondly, it's from Maruti Udyog, who don't really need to give a sheet - look at their sales figures.

And quit whining about the old Zen. It's dead. It was nice in it's own time, but now it's dead. Dead. Dead. Dead.

maxbhp · 17th December 2006, 15:22

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Originally Posted by GTO

However, there is little chance that the Linea will ever be branded as an Alfa for India.

People generally percieve fiat as small car maker atleast in India though its true that they have come out with snazzy convertibles , so I feel its safe to get into the C/D segment with a different image or they may have to face the same fate as Hyundai , am not saying Fiat is hated but u dont really look upon the car with that luxury appeal . This is just a feeling i got , it may not totally true. I feel even if it takes 1 lakh more per car to be rebadged as Alfa , they should do it coz alfa really has a good image , though the same cannot be said about relaiability. If not alfa , I dont mind it this way ...How about 'Ferrari Linea'

, Just kidding any way I am praying that this is a true story !

CrAzY dRiVeR · 17th December 2006, 15:30

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Originally Posted by maxbhp

People generally percieve fiat as small car maker atleast in India though its true that they have come out with snazzy convertibles , so I feel its safe to get into the C/D segment with a different image or they may have to face the same fate as Hyundai , am not saying Fiat is hated but u dont really look upon the car with that luxury appeal . This is just a feeling i got , it may not totally true. I feel even if it takes 1 lakh more per car to be rebadged as Alfa , they should do it coz alfa really has a good image , though the same cannot be said about relaiability. If not alfa , I dont mind it this way ...How about 'Ferrari Linea'

, Just kidding any way I am praying that this is a true story !

Going off topic...

We are going from zen to fiat to alpha... he he...

Gordon · 17th December 2006, 18:01

Spotted the Zen demo car yesterday. It looks very much like a Wagon R.

havefun_11 · 17th December 2006, 18:16

Ya i have also seen the one with red colour in my area..
Looks very bad to me especially front side...

bhp_guru · 17th December 2006, 18:28

My personal taste is kinda diff may be but i didnt like the car much
Amit

drpullockaran · 17th December 2006, 22:36

Fancy of you to state that Estilo is a dabba especially when we have the Indian populace swallowing the

Junkindica by the truckloads. After owning the Junkindica since May2000 the name you have given for the Estilo is more appropriate for the car I own and not for the WagonR in new clothes. I wonder what part and aspect of the ZEN is similar to the Estilo.

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Originally Posted by nickatnite

Zen Estilo!.Another "dabba" from "dabbawalla" Maruti Udyog.Fancy hispanic name doesn't change a thingy!.

16th December 2006, 10:29	#181
GeekSrik Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,281 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	Why no automatics? I m pissed off with the fact maruti has not considered an automatic version for Estilo and probably also for forthcoming cars. Its quite unfortunate in india that just becuase an automatic guzzles fuel, there is no automatic in the market. I mean what happened to catering to customer choices? And marutis automatics will obviously be a bit better than the hyundais perhaps by a couple of km per litre of fuel. A car with CNG + automatic could possibly trigger of a revolution in this country. Although trends to point that people are moving that direction, i think by the time proper automatics are launched, one has to wait forever.
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16th December 2006, 13:01	#182
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	ZEN Estilo except for its look nothing great package for sure. Its like mini van (small brother of Innova) but its cramped, what I expect if its smallor big car If space inside is cramped one front / back it don't make any sense to go for that car. ZEN Estilo is another example of Maruti producing cramped cars. I liked its look for sure! I feel its great car to gift your lady but no automatic version :( Regards, Ravi.
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16th December 2006, 19:08	#184
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,734 Times View My Garage	Right now it looks like a head to head battle between Santro and Estillo. Anybody have some hard numbers to prove which one has a bigger interoir. All first impressions are suggesting the Estillo is cramped but so is the Santro IMHO.
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16th December 2006, 20:02	#185
kvish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 627 Thanked: 195 Times	Happened to passby a demo car...(which was being demo'ed quite brutally after all what are test drives for...) The back looks better than the photo...but definitely an innova baby.... The front is also good...but somehow the dashboard inside has a bit of a vague design....the first thing you observe in that car is the dashboard...somehow its over prominent... But I found that the driver was finding it quite effortless...may be a very easy to drive car...tyres look narrow (and small) , I think that was to increase fuel efficiency... I think it will give Santro a run for its money...but Hyndai have always been good marketers (eyewashers) so they will surely hit back...
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17th December 2006, 01:25	#187
nickatnite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC/MAA Posts: 1,430 Thanked: 604 Times	Zen Estilo!.Another "dabba" from "dabbawalla" Maruti Udyog.Fancy hispanic name doesn't change a thingy!.
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17th December 2006, 14:36	#189
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 14 Times View My Garage	The Zen is dead... Long live the Zen... and the Xenophobes... I quite like it. Look at the pricing, the competition & the target audience. It's close to perfect. It's an all new (for India) car. Maruti have only chosen to keep the Zen name to retain brand loyalty. The styling is perfect for an urban vehicle. Small, but with an efficient use of available space. A bit derivative & bland maybe, but so what? It's mass market. And somebody cribbing because it doesn't have steering wheel controls is just plain silly - (name me one car in this price range anywhere on the planet that does). Don't expect higher trim / equipment / sophistication for two reasons - one being that it's just in the entry level plus category, & secondly, it's from Maruti Udyog, who don't really need to give a sheet - look at their sales figures. And quit whining about the old Zen. It's dead. It was nice in it's own time, but now it's dead. Dead. Dead. Dead.
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17th December 2006, 18:01	#192
Gordon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,549 Thanked: 504 Times View My Garage	Spotted the Zen demo car yesterday. It looks very much like a Wagon R.
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17th December 2006, 18:16	#193
havefun_11 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: DELHI Posts: 11 Thanked: 0 Times	Ya i have also seen the one with red colour in my area.. Looks very bad to me especially front side...
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17th December 2006, 18:28	#194
bhp_guru BANNED Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times Infractions: 0/1 (10)	My personal taste is kinda diff may be but i didnt like the car much Amit
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