[phamilyman]

Originally Posted by targaryen

I am in a slight conundrum now. I had kept my purchase of Baleno Delta CVT on hold till the Swift prices were out. I needed a car for city runs and occasional highway trips. A price difference of about 70k- 1 lakh between comparable variants would have made me go for the Swift. For an on-road price difference of around RS.40k, I am wondering if I should downgrade to the Swift ZXI AMT for this?

Things I get in the Swift and not the Baleno:
1) Push button Start-Stop (I am not a big fan of this tech)
2) 6 speakers instead of 4
3) Driver seat height adjust
4) Leather wrapped steering wheel
5) Seemingly better MFD compared to Delta Baleno
6) Front fog lamps

Things I get in the Baleno and not the Swift:
1) CVT transmission instead of AMT
2) Bigger car with higher ground clearance
3) Front and centre cabin lamps instead of front only in Swift
4) Upcoming dedicated Nexa service centres

Can the gurus and Baleno owners here help me decide if the additional 40k is worth the Baleno CVT while losing out on the 6 things I mentioned above?

Everything you quoted is good to hear but in the end its all about the engine. Cars are as much about the heart as it is about the math. This much amount is not earth shaking.

5-7 years later, you wouldn't care about the 40k you would save or spend. The smiles per mile are all that count.

Please take both for an enthusiastic test drive back to back - tell us which one gave you a WIIIIDEE smile and then buy that one.

PS: I myself drive a 1.5L NA auto petrol (Ford Aspire). It was clearly costlier than Baleno or other comparable 4m cars - but BOY, it made me smile, and still does. I get 13.2 kpl in city, and 16-17 kpl on full highway runs (including jams). Good enough for me.

[jpcoolguy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Maruti Suzuki SWIFT bookings cross 40,000. Waiting period is at ~ 6-8 weeks .

That's just 2 months of sales for MSIL

I think with this pricing of Swift, MSIL made sure that they have enough headroom to move Baleno up the pricing ladder at par with i20 and Jazz, during its launch of facelift.

Also, for an average customer the pricing of Baleno may not be known since they don't have access to Baleno in the same showroom, in order to compare the prices, and that will be the key for MSIL to push the new Swift.

[VinodDevil81]

Originally Posted by Dr.Naren

Fog lamps were purposely skipped in lower variants, so that Maruti could sell them as accessories . Also to keep the pricing competitive.

Couldn't find any of that competitiveness in the pricing.
I felt it is more like "to keep their margins intact " rather than any attempt "to keep the pricing competitive".
Even after removing multiple features from the mid-variant like fog-lamps, adjustable rear-headrests etc, they couldn't price it competitively, atleast as an introductory limited period pricing.

Agreed that being the top-selling model from the market-leader, Swift has very little competition and may be that's why they need not be competitive in pricing.
As someone said in an above post, when certain people are ready to buy it at whatever price, why shouldn't Maruti exploit that opportunity?

But people tend to take notice when some feature that was already there is withdrawn in a newer model.
Agreed that there may be new feature additions elsewhere, but then what is the competitiveness and value addition, where you lose something when you are gaining some other thing?
And that too without even a price cut to justify that competitiveness?

Skipping the fog-lamp in Vxi/VDi and selling it as accessory is just fleecing the customer.
As if the huge profit margins from selling around 1 lakh cars per month is not enough for Maruti, that they had to resort to this, and make more profit by selling Fog-lamps as accessory!

The front-end of the VXi now looks bland and cheap with that black-cover in place of the fog-lamp.
Steering controls and driver-seat height adjustment become obvious only once someone gets inside the cabin.
Fog lamp is a feature whose absence is very much conspicuous even from a distance, and Maruti should have retained it in V variants.

By pricing the new Swift very close to the Baleno for some of the variants, I think Maruti is planning to price the upcoming facelifted Baleno even higher.

[Dr.Naren]

Originally Posted by VinodDevil81

Even after removing multiple features from the mid-variant like fog-lamps, adjustable rear-headrests etc, they couldn't price it competitively, atleast as an introductory limited period pricing.

Yes, Maruti has removed fog lamps. But steering controls, height adjustable driver seat are available even in V variants.

[ani_meher]

I can't understand why one wouldn't go for a superior baleno with CVT spending only 30-50k more (hardly 5-6%) more. Pricing is too much. Dzire and Baleno are best suited for a sub 4m sedan and a hatch respectively. Smaller size with inferior automatic technology hasn't resulted in any meaningful saving in cost.

[jaaz]

Took a small Test Drive on the Zdi+. The odo was just 44 kms. If you are already using previous gen Swift, then you will notice that its roomier in the back due to 2 reasons, Leg room and height. Once you start driving, you feel its quicker than previous gen. To comment on Steering, we need a longer test drive.

Could see only 2 colours, Red and Blue. Still no Automatic for TD.

Forget about Baleno, even S Cross, Zeta looks value for money, if you are looking at Diesel Manual and do not mind the half a metre extra length.

[Leoshashi]

Maruti Swift iCreate accessories brochure


iCreate_Swift_Brochure.pdf

Most of the items are weird and wacky. . Red wheelcaps, seriously??

[risham]

Hi,
Got the new swift Zxi+ red today evening.
Awesome!!!
1st car to be delivered in Mohali.
The overall delivery experience was nice though some delay was there due to the rush of launch event.
Leaving town for a wedding in the family in the morning. Will upload pics etc later.

[Satishtv]

Guys, I was wondering on the merit of spending 8.4L on swift zxi AMT when I can get Ignis Zeta AMT for 7.5L or Ignis Alpha AMT for 8.52L. Is there any reason to stick to Swift? Looks are subjective and I am guessing the ride and handling of Ignis should be as good as Swift.

I am stuck between saving money and buying Swift or spending a little more and getting a Baleno.

[Arjun Reddy]

Originally Posted by Satishtv

I am stuck between saving money and buying Swift or spending a little more and getting a Baleno.

End of day, if I were you, I would pick the Baleno purely because of the CVT gearbox. I really do not suggest or endorse AMTs.

Cannot comment further as I have not driven the New swift as yet.

[Satishtv]

Originally Posted by Arjun Reddy

End of day, if I were you, I would pick the Baleno purely because of the CVT gearbox. I really do not suggest or endorse AMTs.

Cannot comment further as I have not driven the New swift as yet.

Thanks Arjun, there is another important point leading to confusion; my use of the car will not exceed more than 2500 kms in a year. So, I am not sure I want to spend close to 10 lakhs for a Baleno.

[Arjun Reddy]

Originally Posted by Satishtv

Thanks Arjun, there is another important point leading to confusion; my use of the car will not exceed more than 2500 kms in a year. So, I am not sure I want to spend close to 10 lakhs for a Baleno.

Why not a manual transmission if you are drivin only 2.5 k kms a year?

I would not compromise on the equipment( read as gearbox) and safety on any vehicle however sparingly used. What is the price difference of the Baleno Delta CVT and the Swift AGS?

[arunramaswamy]

Originally Posted by Satishtv

Thanks Arjun, there is another important point leading to confusion; my use of the car will not exceed more than 2500 kms in a year. So, I am not sure I want to spend close to 10 lakhs for a Baleno.

Apologies but don't think you need a car in the first place for a very low usage. Why not take a cab for such short distance travel or a cycle?

[The Rationalist]

Maruti has decided that henceforth customers won't have to take up Weird and Wacky modifications by themselves, Maruti has developed an in house team dedicated for Weird and wacky stuff! Lot of my Keralite brotheren can sigh a huge relief as they can get hold of genuine Maruti stuff which are a tough competition to the local guys. Well done Maruti !

[aaychat]

Originally Posted by tushky

The rear profile very similar to Datsun Go. and the interior should look more upmarket. Current swift interior seems more upmarket than the next version.

As for the front, it looks like how a kitted out E-Pace would...or it's just me.