[arit.mondal]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Is the zuki Jimny slated to come to India? This renegade really looks the part... And trust fiat to bring this in to shake the market up... All over again!

Top of my list for a single guy/nuclear family who want to explore.

+1 that this should be top of the list for single guys. I myself being one, am eagerly waiting for this one, but looks like it will be at least a year before it gets launched :(

[Behemoth]

The Renegade may just be the 4x4 offroader which can replace the Gypsy well as it has a short wheelbase and a good engine. Let's hope Jeep is able to price it under 12 lacs when they launch.

[octane_100]

Renegade looks like the perfect little brother of Wrangler. This is what Thar should have been like instead of being a bare bones off roader.

[Zezé]

Originally Posted by octane_100

Renegade looks like the perfect little brother of Wrangler. This is what Thar should have been like instead of being a bare bones off roader.

I agree; The Thar's 'classic' looks combined with the 'creature' comforts of the Renegade would be a runaway success. Especially with those who are not really hard core off road enthusiasts.

Anyway, M&M still have an opportunity to make amends when the next gen Thar is launched in the near future.

Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope that the Mahindra in-house design team don't make a porridge like it happened with the TUV300.

[arit.mondal]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

At that price, I wonder what the engine lineup will look like? 1.3 90hp diesel and 1.4 110hp TJet for the base variants?

Unless they have plans to localize the 1.6 diesel, I don't see the Renegade getting priced so low down without a major compromise on engines.

90HP could make this car a slouch since it weighs almost 1600kg. It needs all the power and torque provided in western markets to make it a good off roader and highway cruiser.

Also came across with this disturbing review on paint quality of Jeep while browsing reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH6YYxIWTZE&t=0s

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Renegade will basically fight it out with the upcoming Suzuki Jimny/Gypsy for fancy of the youth and mod friendly off-road vehicle.

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Is the zuki Jimny slated to come to India? This renegade really looks the part... And trust fiat to bring this in to shake the market up... All over again!

Top of my list for a single guy/nuclear family who want to explore.

Originally Posted by arit.mondal

+1 that this should be top of the list for single guys. I myself being one, am eagerly waiting for this one, but looks like it will be at least a year before it gets launched :(

Originally Posted by Behemoth

The Renegade may just be the 4x4 offroader which can replace the Gypsy well as it has a short wheelbase and a good engine. Let's hope Jeep is able to price it under 12 lacs when they launch.

Reg: Jimny - we have been hearing this for a long long time now. Makes me think, MUL isn't really bothered about it. They brought in the Brezza which is giving them volumes. Whats in Jimny that they would take the trouble of getting it approved through our country's red tape.

Reg: Renegade - Only one concern - hope they bring in the TH. Otherwise, it's gonna be difficult to take on competition. With the Trail Hawk they will have the USP of a capable off-roader.

[arit.mondal]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Reg: Jimny - we have been hearing this for a long long time now. Makes me think, MUL isn't really bothered about it. They brought in the Brezza which is giving them volumes. Whats in Jimny that they would take the trouble of getting it approved through our country's red tape.

I don't think Jimny will sell much in India, pure-offroaders have very limited market potential. Maruti knows it and hence they haven't shown any intent to bring it here either. In fact, if Maruti really wants, it makes more sense for them to launch a version of Gypsy rather than bring in a new model.

In the foreseeable future (next two years), I see only Renegade being launched among capable C-SUVs and thankfully Jeep had been doing lot of testing on Indian roads for a long time now. It has a very youthful design, good interiors (Duster is worst in this dept), best in class off-road capability for occasional weekend tours, enough grunt for highway cruising and Jeep branding all under 14lacs. Should be a hit among urban youths. Someone earlier predicted a March '18 launch, hope it's true.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by arit.mondal

It has a very youthful design, good interiors (Duster is worst in this dept), best in class off-road capability for occasional weekend tours, enough grunt for highway cruising and Jeep branding all under 14lacs.

My guess, we *may* get the Sports 2wd at 14, something like the compass, and the trail rated (if it comes, *IF*) at 18 or 20 even! Who knows what's cooking at Jeep.

[karthikd21]

Originally Posted by arit.mondal

I don't think Jimny will sell much in India, pure-offroaders have very limited market potential. Maruti knows it and hence they haven't shown any intent to bring it here either. In fact, if Maruti really wants, it makes more sense for them to launch a version of Gypsy rather than bring in a new model.

It seems that Jimny never made it in India till date as it was not manufactured in India. But, this time rumors are that it will be manufactured in India and exported. So, i am hoping they will sell it here as well. Just waiting for it

[Hickstead]

After going through the interesting pricing of Compass, Can we expect JEEP to price Renegade under cutting Creta with a starting price of base petrol around 9.99 L :-) ?

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by Hickstead

After going through the interesting pricing of Compass, Can we expect JEEP to price Renegade under cutting Creta with a starting price of base petrol around 9.99 L :-) ?

I feel the Compass is already based on the Renegade & The Renegade itself is a pretty premium offering. At least in the EU etc. So the price you mentioned is quite optimistic & will devalue the JEEP brand. They shouldn't bring it so low if they want to maintain their brand's status. Its a very tough juggling job.

[Hickstead]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

So the price you mentioned is quite optimistic & will devalue the JEEP brand. They shouldn't bring it so low if they want to maintain their brand's status. Its a very tough juggling job.

I do agree that my expectation is quite optimistic . But I wish JEEP should target Ecosport/Brezza/Nexon customers with base variants of Renegade and Creta with higher variants. The reason for my expectation is that the vehicle is looking very cramped and I am not sure whether our market accepts this vehicle being priced above 15L.

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by Hickstead

I do agree that my expectation is quite optimistic . But I wish JEEP should target Ecosport/Brezza/Nexon customers with base variants of Renegade and Creta with higher variants. The reason for my expectation is that the vehicle is looking very cramped and I am not sure whether our market accepts this vehicle being priced above 15L.

I don't think they should target these customers at all. Thats the point. Its like saying Jaguar should have a base model that targets customers of the Elantra or Civic.

Ecosport, Brezza, Nexon are Economy grade / mass market cars. Jeep is a premium brand. One mistake of incorrectly placing the brand in a segment has ripple effects on the brand value that affect their costly products also. Check Tata HEXA. Its a premium product, but nobody accepts the premium-ness as it is from an economy brand.

[motorworks]

Are the Renegade and the Compass based on the same platform? Sometimes it's a little confusing to make out how manufacturers derive the platforms! For example, is the Jeep Compass that is sold in the U.S based on a Fiat XL platform or is it completely different from the one being made in India and being exported to all RHD markets?

I'm just trying to understand what kind of quality levels we can expect in the Renegade. The Compass is surely very well built and has fit and finish that is at par with one or 2 segments above.

[ach1lles]

I saw the Renegade on a recent trip. It looks really awkward. It is small-ish, looked like it was created on a budget, and appeared more Mahindra than Jeep. Or, in one word, uncool. I don't think it is going to appeal to many here.