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Originally Posted by srinath.s Wow! Alto in 2nd spot. Am I dreaming? *pinches self*
Anyway, is this an indication of the Indian buyer finally waking up to better, quality products, not being merely satisfied with whatever manufacturers throw at him? As an example, B2 is consistently the largest segment for quite some time now. Looks like even the first time buyer is aspiring for the best! |
Please do not read too much into the Dzire outselling the Alto. This has happened once before and the very next month the Dzire was in third place with the Alto taking the first place again. You cannot conclude that the first time buyer is opting for the best because he is buying a Dzire or what you are calling a car from the B2 segment. If anything it could indicate increase in purchase power and nothing more.
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Originally Posted by RavenAvi
The Nissan Sunny has literally rolled down the buyers' slope! What is Nissan thinking about revamping the Sunny's sales, I wonder. For a VFM proposition in the C2-segment, it has really fallen down. No doubt, Nissan's pathetic and smaller After Sales' Service is the major contributor here.
Renault must be feeling the heat from the Creta & the S-Cross, with the overpriced Duster's sales falling month-after-month.
With the S-Cross, Figo Aspire, Creta, Figo hatch, Kite twins all lined up for launches ahead, the figures will be very interesting to follow all through the festive season ahead. |
I think the case of the Sunny as well as the Micra is that Nissan has not really created communication strategy that made sense to the potential buyer. Even now the ads for the Terrano are the embodiment of stupidity.
Renault is not feeling any heat from the Creta and the S-Cross, not yet anyway. The Creta story will unfold next month while the S-Cross (for sometime A Cross) is not even anywhere near getting into the market. Don't read too much into that.
The Kite twins will go the Bolt/Zest way. The Zest sells in some decent numbers because the Manza did not look anything like the Zest. The Bolt is a different story. Everybody can see that it is Vista that has been to the beauty parlour and that perception is enough for people to not even go into a showroom to see the insides or find out about the Revotron. Sad but true. Now with the publicity in various media that the Kites are based on the even older Indica platform, I doubt if too many people will get to the showroom. Tata needs to wipe the slate clean and start all over again with new machines that are created from ground up.
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Originally Posted by jvk84 - Duster gained this month, probably due to huge discounts they are offering.
- Celerio has fallen into the right track with AMT and Diesel options. I expect it to replace Alto/Dzire as the King soon.
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Duster is not the only model and Renault is not the only manufacturer to give discounts. Everybody gives discounts these days and the fluctuations in the numbers are really marginal and not something to feel good about or feel bad about.
Don't put the Celerio at the top of the heap. The AMT did not help its petrol sales so much, so lets see how the diesel engine does. Remember this engine is not a tried and tested product but a first time exercise for Maruti to make a diesel, it is unconventional with two cylinders and unknown quantity in terms of long term reliability.
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Originally Posted by jeepster_chd And Tata Nano, 1700 isn't what Tata would have been expecting. I bought one last month and I find it notch better than its competition if not more. It surely deserves better sales. Good luck Tata. |
I have always said this. The Nano was always a very good car. And what Tata has done with it is too little too late. I was sad to read in yesterday's New Indian Express, an interview with Ratan Tata who seems to have thrown in the towel and has said the Nano did not serve the purpose of making more people car owners and even if repositioning succeeds (he seemed sceptical about that) it still has to be taken to be a failure since the original goal was not reached. The reasons given by him were what everyone talks about except where he said the press had put the "cheap" tag and Tata did not counter it with the "affordable" tag. But to date it is one of my favourite cars and I enjoyed driving it every time I took it out. I hope it does well with the added AMT and Power Steering whose absence in the first place took some of the sales away.
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Originally Posted by arnabchak 2) Sharp drop in Ciaz
Could be attributed to the market wait for the Creta/S Cross. Yet, fail to understand how and why City continues to hold on to its position?
Ciaz, other than the 1.3MJD is no lesser than the H car. Also, the iDtec is not a refined unit as well. 5) Why is GM and Fiat alive? Again, with a cumulative sales of ~3K(Tavera accounts for 33% of these) how does GM survive?
FIAT fares worser with a sub 1K figure. The silver lining though is their national engine which gives them margins to sustain, marginally.
Datsun strategy was a wrong move. It is showing. The have shot themselves in the foot by introducing Datsun and further increasing their overhead costs. Not good for a company that is already having wafer thin dealer network and margins.
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Sharp drop in Ciaz again cannot be at this point in time the impending arrival of the Creta or the S Cross. Sedan buyers do not really look at SUVs or cross overs.
Please do not underestimate the Honda diesel because you read somewhere that it is harsh and coarse sounding. Nothing like that, it is well engineered and more than a match for any diesel engine in that category.
You will be surprised to know that Fiat is one of the very few profit making companies in India. I don't need to tell you why. That is why it is taking its time with the new portfolio so they do not make mistakes again. In comparison, Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, Ford, GM, Tata are all loss making companies. Ironical, but true.
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Originally Posted by Aaron:) Btw I expected the Lodgy to do much better. It does everything as well as the Innova, and some things even better. |
The Lodgy is one product I would really like to see succeed. But I do not think it will happen (if it all it does happen) because it sold better than the Innova or dented the sales of the Innova significantly. Its success will depend on creating a new segment in between the Innova and the Ertiga. Lets wait and see.
Datsun I think has been hurt very badly for two reasons. One is that it started sales off with two non-AC variants and no CD player option. (By the way Honda still sells the stereo in the Brio with USB only and you can play only Version 1 and Version 2 USBs or pen drives on them. It does not play version 3. Sad part is Versions 1 and 2 are no longer made). The Datsun story will have to be seen with the car that shares the platform with the Kwid from Renault. Carlos Ghosn seems like a confident man and I hope that his love for Indian frugality and cost effectiveness will ultimately work for Renault-Nissan (with Datsun) in India. I have not seen any other head of any car company who had so much faith in the Indian process of doing things.