re: Tata developing a premium hatchback, the Altroz. Edit: Launched at 5.29 lakh. Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhilthegunner Do you know if it's coming with a wet or a dry clutch DCT? Dry clutch might have problems in our congested cities. |
It would be a huge surprise if it comes with a wet clutch. Cars costing thrice the amount also don't come with that. For now I think best to bet on a dry DCT. Quote:
Originally Posted by dg2332 I see the different sets of tires in petrol and diesel. Is it a move towards cost cutting on the diesel varient or is it to improve the ride quality since diesel varient is 100 kgs heavier ? |
And mileage. Wider tyres = lower mileage in the sensitive petrol motors. Quote:
Originally Posted by SoumenD 3yl NA petrol specially is very uninspiring for this class. But am sure even TATA knows this and hence maybe they will spring a surprise once pricing is out and we will see this undercut the premium hatches by a decent margin |
Problem is - when people are willing to shell out more than 7-8 lakhs OTR on a hatchback, VFM isn't the first item in their wish list. Since the Tiago is not too far below, the real margin to play with is quite tiny. Otherwise Tiago & Altroz will only compete between themselves and nothing in the B+ segment as intended.
Altroz might end up competing with the Swift-i10 NIOS. I don't think thats what they are gunning for. But most likely it will be somewhere in this segment from a customer perspective - my gut feeling. Quote:
Originally Posted by dg2332 Going by TATA's record, one thing that this maybe able to boast of compared to others is a strong build(if it manages Nexon like rating), but needs to be seen as this one weighs as much as the Tiago. Guess, we should hold on till the pricing is out. |
Tiago in itself is a heavy car. Very soon its expected to score 5 stars in GNCAP. With one of the highest amount % of high strength steel in structure, I feel we can bet on the Altroz scoring at least 4 stars in GNCAP. However - if TML is betting purely on this 1 item - I'd remind them to have a look at the current top 10 selling models in the country.
All the top positions are occupied by mileage cars weighing ultra light. So its statistically evident that people are not yet buying safety. Quote:
Originally Posted by sagarpadaki If Tata claims this car to be a Gold standard with 1.2L 3 Cyl NA Engine and just 2 Airbags in 2020, Then i would say they have set their standards very low. |
I must agree. They have got a lot of good features like wide opening doors, flat rear floor, good spacious & practical interiors, feature list.
But the one thing that a purist considers as "premium" is the powertrain. In the petrol side of things, Altroz doesn't seem much premium on that front. However - the real ace that the Altroz has is the 1.5L Revotorq. Its a lot of aces in a single card really. I'm pretty sure TML is actually banking on this single item in the spec list to propel this car to success. They are just not saying it.
Come BSVI enforcement, MSIL won't have any diesel car for foreseeable duration, VW seems to be done with the 1.5 TDI in India too (sadly). Suddenly a huge chunk of market is up for grabs. Only Hyundai i20 & Tata Altroz will fight it out on the oil burning side. (With an overlap from the Ford Freestyle maybe.) My money is on 70% of Altroz's sales being diesel variants. The diesel if priced well - has the potential to be the joker in the pack.
=== Off topic - I must say, the unveil event was so dull. It was more of " Tin Standard" for launching a car they claim to be "Gold Standard". - Pratap Bose is having to do a lot of things. The head of design is ending up pulling a lot of others as ballast with him. Having to do PR and marketing must be quite annoying for him.
- I was quite disappointed with the way Mr. Vivek Srivatsa conducted his part of the session.
- His talk was a large heap of politically incorrect statements. Quite gender biased & pretentious.
- And the gentleman before him called "Ladakh" as "Laadkha".
Last edited by Aditya : 4th December 2019 at 17:42.
Reason: Attributed name corrected as requested.
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