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Old 16th December 2016, 15:16   #436
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Re: The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis

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How I wish they had integrated the touchscreen HU better. To me, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It might even be mistaken to be an actual tablet by people who know no better, and attract unwanted attention of car equipment thieves out to make a quick buck. The interiors otherwise are not bad.

Baleno automatic is a CVT. Now Ignis comes with an AMT box. Makes you wonder if they are really serious about NEXA being the premium outlet.
Floating touchscreen HU is current design trend and lot of manufacturers including Mercedes are using this approach. Given that Ignis itself is a quirky design, floating HU comes as no surprise to me. Just like the car, it is a love it or hate it design.
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Re: The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis

No SHVS mild-hybrid system planned for the Ignis, according to CV Raman, Executive Director (Engg), Maruti Suzuki India Limited.

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According to Raman, the company would like to first educate customers on how the SHVS mild-hybrid system functions, collect feedback from said customers and decide whether it’s worth localising the components and democratise it across Maruti’s portfolio. Currently, Maruti offers the SHVS system in Ciaz and Ertiga, the components of which are imported.

In a previous instance, Mr Raman had told IAB that there was no urgent need of SHVS tech in compact cars, given that most Maruti products already offer best-in-class fuel efficiency and are complying with current emission norms. However, he believes that hybridisation is the way forward for Maruti products in the future, once the government introduces BSVI emission norms in 2020 and as the fuel-efficiency numbers game gets increasingly competitive.

Overseas, Suzuki offers the SHVS in the Ignis and Baleno, and feels that it could be launched if the demand is felt in India.
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Old 16th December 2016, 18:06   #438
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Re: The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis

To me the design and the stance of the car looks great. Design touches like the front door handles look great.

However what I am hoping is that with the 1.3L DDiS it should have great performance which would be the icing on what already is shaping up to be a great cake.

While not rivalling Hyundai, Maruti is holding it's own in the design department first with the Brezza and now with the Ignis. With the Baleno and now the Ignis Maruti is slowly but surely strengthening the Nexa brand and ensuring that it's dealerships are sustainable.

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Launching will roll out at an EDM music concert on 13th January. EDM DJ - Axwell as the brand ambassador of Maruti Suzuki's Ignis!

The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-capture.jpg

Updates the Nexa page,

The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-1.jpg

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First look video of Maruti Suzuki Ignis ,

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- The main target market for the Ignis will be youth in their 20s, a market estimated to be worth 450 million Millennials in India alone.
Makes me wonder - Why ISOFIX included, if the target customer is youth in their 20's?
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Makes me wonder - Why ISOFIX included, if the target customer is youth in their 20's?
20's will include anyone from 20-29, that's a pretty valid age for anyone to have at least one kid! I have friends who have had more than 1 too, in that age bracket. Give it a thought from the fairer sex's age perspective and it'll make much better sense.

Jokes apart, I am happy atleast the Nexa offering is kitted better than the other products from 'normal' Maruti. Hope they extend this trend to all other products too by will, it's going to be forced upon anyway.

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The Ignis is Maruti's latest entrant in the crowded hatchback space. This is a premium offering and will be sold through the Nexa dealership network. The marketing talk in the preview event clearly indicated that Maruti is touting the Ignis as car for the "millennials" i.e. people born after 1980, who are buying their first car. For the Ignis, right from the product (personalisation options) to booking (online mode) to the marketing plan - everything will be targeted at the millennials.

The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-ignis-front-shot-large.png

The Ignis will be powered by the most popular engine options from Maruti - the 1.2L K-series petrol unit (83 BHP / 115 Nm) and the 1.3L DDiS 190 diesel engine (74 BHP / 190 Nm).

Maruti has obviously sensed the greater acceptance of the automatic transmission in India and hence, the Ignis will be offered in AMT variants for both the petrol and diesel engines - a segment first. Answering a specific query on whether this Nexa offering should have had a regular automatic transmission, Maruti clarified that a regular automatic transmission was never considered, since its research indicated the customers wanted the functionality of an automatic and were not too concerned about the technology that delivered it, especially in this segment. The incremental cost of an AMT, which is substantially lower than that of a conventional automatic transmission, was also a deciding factor. Maruti wants people to spend more on customisations than on the auto transmission.

ABS and dual airbags will be standard across the range. The Ignis will be homologated and certified for the future front offset, side & rear impact and pedestrian safety regulations, well before the October 2017 deadline. The compliance and certification for these tests has been done at Maruti's own R&D facilities and crash test labs in Rohtak, because the government facilities are not yet ready. Seatbelts with pre-tensioners / force limiter and ISOFIX child seat mounts with be provided as well.

Maruti does expect some cannibalisation of the Swift and Baleno, but are clear that they thought that the Swift is for the conservative buyer and the Baleno is for someone who wants luxury. The Ignis will be bought by a more adventurous buyer. It is expected to be priced in the Swift – KUV100 bracket. The e-bookings for the car will start in the first week of January 2017 and the car will be launched in an EDM music concert ( by Axwell) on 13th January.

Coming to the Ignis variant that was on display, the front of the car looks good and is dominated by the aggressive headlights that are integrated with the mesh grill:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02130-large.jpg

Please note a couple of firsts for Maruti here:
• LED Daylight Running Lamps
• LED Projector Headlamps

The fog lamps are housed inside a chrome perimeter. In fact the amount of chrome throughout looks optimum. Of course we will need to see in a person a lower variant with presumably lesser chrome for a fair comparison:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1655_2.jpg

The side view of the car is defined by beefed up wheel arches and with what Maruti calls "3D trapezoidal 5-spoke alloy wheels", finished in glossy black. Fancy names aside, they do look fabulous on the car. Thankfully, gone are the days of the horrid alloy designs that Nexa gave on the S-Cross. The side cladding, though not too wide, does add to the car's masculinity:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02131-large.jpg
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02132-large.jpg

Tyres are Bridgestone 175/65 R15 units:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02111-large.jpg

The spare wheel is not an alloy:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1632-large.jpg

No, this is not an Adidas logo on the C-pillar. Maruti calls it the "Suzuki Progressive Triad". It is present on both the C-pillars as well as the center console that holds the gear lever:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02136-large.jpg

To increase the trendiness of the car, Maruti is banking heavily on the options for exterior styling with dual-tone colour themes - black roof, white roof, roof wraps, etc. There will be stickers available for the fog lamp bezels and a lot of upholstery design options for the interiors.

Rear styling is nothing to write home about, but it's not bad either:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02135-large.jpg

Plastic strip on the rear bumper will be useful in preventing scratches:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1638-large.jpg

On the other hand, the rear view mirrors get a glossy black case, which will be prone to scratches:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1648-large.jpg

No, the exhaust end can is not exposed like the Brezza's:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1640-large.jpg

Interiors:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-ignis-dashboard-shot-large.png

Interiors come in a highly contrasting black & ivory white dual-colour theme. Maruti clearly said it they wanted this to be unique and they've managed to do it - at least in the top variant that was displayed. However, the white interiors are likely to require much more cleaning and maintenance. Guess the millennials will have to keep 'em kids well behaved:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02089-large.jpg

Corner air-con vents are circular and close completely if needed. The center ones are rectangular and don't close completely:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1674-large.jpg

Quality of the plastic on the dash and switches is more than acceptable for the segment. Carbon fiber finish on the air-con vents and the hood of the instrument cluster is a nice touch:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1672-large.jpg

Toggle type switches for the HVAC unit and the one-touch +- switches on either side for the temperature & blower controls look and feel quite rich, considering the car's segment:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02095-large.jpg

The trip reset and info buttons for the MID are no longer the stick type units. The Ignis gets proper buttons:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02091-large.jpg

Engine start/stop button is conveniently placed to the right of the steering wheel:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02093-large.jpg

Power window buttons are identical to other Maruti cars - no surprises here:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02094-large.jpg

MID is basic with all the regular functions. Temperature gauge is absent as is the case with many cars these days:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02108-large.jpg

Dash of colour on the inside that livens up the interiors. Part of the center console that houses the gear lever is body-coloured:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02087-large.jpg

Front door panel looks good with enough white and a body-coloured handle with enough storage space:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-sam_1629-large.jpg

In contrast, the rear door panel is a little too gray and gets only one small bottle holder:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02105-large.jpg

Tab-like infotainment system is not linear with the dashboard, but has been brought out and kind of bulges out. Maruti claims that it enhances the funkiness of the system and will appeal to their target audience. However, I will leave that for the viewers to decide. Personally, it looks a little disproportionate and asymmetric to me. The system supports Android Auto, Apple CarPlay & MirrorLink:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02109-large.jpg

The fact that the front and the rear wheels are located the corners and the overhang are minimal, means that the legroom inside the car is very good. When I sat in my regular driving position (I'm 6' tall and sit upright while driving), a six-footer at the back had more than a couple of inches of space between his knees and the front seat.

However, the shoulder room is limited and the rather big floor hump at the rear, means that the back bench is comfortable for only two adults.
The headroom at the rear is plentiful, although egress will need the occupant to bend his head down because of the low roof height at the sides.

The seat upholstery is decent. While there is no seatback pocket behind the driver seat, the passenger seat has a small one.

Note the height of the headrests. They don't look too good, do they?
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02102-large.jpg

Seat belts are not height-adjustable:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02106-large.jpg

60:40 split rear seats:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02124-large.jpg

Seats fold down to offer more luggage space, albeit not a completely flat bed type setup:
The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis-dsc02126-large.jpg

A defining feature of the Ignis is a very good ground clearance of 180 mm, which will make a lot of Indians happy - bring on the speed-breakers!

Maruti clarified that neither the AWD, nor the 1.0L turbocharged petrol versions are being considered for India. The car may be exported to South-East Asian countries from India.

Overall, the car looks fresh and though the boxy design might put off a few, I am sure it will eventually be accepted by the masses. As always, the pricing will remain the key. IMO, they should price it just below the Swift to make this a VFM offering for the masses.

Let's wait for the Friday the 13th (of January) for the launch .

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Re: The Maruti-Suzuki Ignis

Is it just me or Ignis looks like a cross between Alto & Kwid with overblown toy looks, especially the back.

Getting Axwell to be brand face is a good choice, full marks to Maruti staff for connecting with today's youth.

Now what the should do is redefine car financing for college students and youth.
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The Ignis is Maruti's latest entrant in the crowded hatchback space. This is a premium offering and will be sold through the Nexa dealership network. ...

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Dash of colour on the inside that livens up the interiors. Part of the center console that houses the gear lever is body-coloured:
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Front door panel looks good with enough white and a body-coloured handle with enough storage space:
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Thanks for the quick report Eddy. I believe the above two pieces will be customization options and not available as standard body color.
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Thanks for the quick report Eddy. I believe the above two pieces will be customization options and not available as standard body color.
Maruti mentioned that the display car was not customized, so this may well be a standard spec in the top variant(s) and available as a customization in the lower ones.
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1) Rear tail-lamps and tailgate (that curves inwards) are the only weak points in design department.

2) The XXL sized front head-rest might seriously affect visibility for the backseat passengers.

3) The tab really looks funky - imitates the interiors of premium German cars.
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1) Rear tail-lamps and tailgate (that curves inwards) are the only weak points in design department.

2) The XXL sized front head-rest might seriously affect visibility for the backseat passengers.

3) The tab really looks funky - imitates the interiors of premium German cars.
1. Agreed, Rear Design is surely hate it type for me. Also, it looks narrower from rear due to that weird design.

2. Kind of BMW 5 Series like , Those Front Seats are from Baleno, They don't look that big in Baleno due to its round cabin, but in square cabin of Ignis it can be felt. Thankfully, Maruti didn't go the other way around (Integrated Type).

3. Reminiscent of Mercedes Front Wheel Drive Cars ? Jokes apart, it does make the cabin look fresh & unique. It should have been tilted towards driver side though.

If this is priced Significantly Cheaper then Baleno, I may well change my Baleno Booking to Ignis provided, it is as appealing as Baleno.

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If this is priced Significantly Cheaper then Baleno...


If Maruti considers it as a replacement for Ritz, it has to start at 4.3L ex-showroom for base Petrol. There is a big vacuum at that price point. But since all the models are equipped with dual airbags and ABS as standard, and with the Nexa effect, this may not happen. But it cannot go above the bigger Swift, or go closer to the premium Baleno as well. So, a base price of 4.6L is possible. But if the discounts on Ritz (to the tune of 30K) are effected on the initial pricing of Ignis, this can come down to 4.3L.

Some reports are saying that it will be introduced as a competitor to Kwid at 4L ex-showroom, which is highly improbable.

May be, a K10 engine stripped down version can do that?

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It looks like the bend on the boot where the rear windscreen ends is more protruded than the bumper. In case a higher perched vehicle brushes the rear, it will be the boot that will take the brunt rather than the bumper.
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