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Originally Posted by StarScream But those who want a petrol won't go for anything else. And that is where Ford has missed a trick. They've ceded the market for a high-tech auto petrol to Honda and VW when they could easily compete with the Ecoboost and DCT combo. That car will sell in limited numbers but, I feel, it's easier to manage low demand for a niche product than it is for a blockbuster. Just look at VW with the Polo and Vento TSI - demand far outstrips supply and that is an enviable position to be in. |
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Originally Posted by shashank.nk Will the Fiesta get ecoboost in near future atleast ? It won't sell in huge numbers definitely,but will make the Fiesta a superb petrol sedan in the segment. It'll have the requisite power to make proper use of its brilliant dynamics. |
Very true. We actually told the Ford marketing VP exactly the same citing the example of the Vento TSI.
The problem they told us is that the Ecoboost Ecosport already has a low demand. The engine is completely imported leading to higher cost. The cost difference between diesel Ecosport and the Ecoboost variant is like 40K.
If they did this in the Fiesta, the Ecoboost will be the most expensive petrol option in the segment. Now if they add the Powershift DCT gearbox, the petrol AT will be significantly higher than the diesel. This will really kill the numbers.
That said, I personally feel they should have got the Ecoboost with the 6 speed DCT even if at a higher price, just as a halo product. They anyways don't have anything above the Fiesta so it doesn't matter having a car priced at 13 lakhs.
More than the Ecosport, the Fiesta deserves the Ecoboost. The dynamics coupled with the Ecoboost and DCT is just too irresistible.
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Originally Posted by swiftnfurious I had read that the cabin in the pre-facelift Fiesta (from ownership reviews) was quite silent. But now with this report, it says there are still improvements. So was it over rated in some of the ownership reports? How silent is the cabin in the current Fiesta (may be a comparison with pre-facelift Fiesta would be nice as well)? |
It's always been silent. The facelift just improves it further. You can't really compare NVH unless you drive both cars back to back and both cars should be with equal number of kms.
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Originally Posted by ToyotaFan Thanks for the reply vid. I also wanted to ask if the fiesta has a 12V charging point at the back or an extra one at the front. Considering no in built navigation charging a mobile phone with a navigator taking up one port becomes difficult at times. |
Nope nothing for the back seat, only the single port at the front.
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Originally Posted by Sheel Noop & Vid - Will the new improved features found in the Fiesta be moved to the EcoSport? Like the new steering feel, improved remote button to access the boot, a bit more premium feel in the cabin area in form of the new steering in the Fiesta? There might be many, but this is what came to mind immediately, especially the steering. |
I don't think any of these changes will make it to the Ecosport anytime soon. The steering is the same but instead of silver paint they are using brushed chrome. They can't do it in the Ecosport cause it won't match with the centre console.
The key is the same in both, just that the marking is missing. Even in Ecosport you can use that button even though not marked.
Also, the steering feel is intentionally made lighter in the Ecosport to give it a light feel for city commuting. The Fiesta is targeting enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by Gannu_1 Noopy/viddy, not 100% sure but I think this could be the GPS antenna: Attachment 1252509
Perhaps you can confirm it from Ford? The unit behind the rear-view mirror houses the rain sensor IINM. |
Good point Gannu, but I distinctly remember seeing 2 sensors on the windshield, one will be for the wipers and other for the automatic headlights.
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Originally Posted by vnabhi
Here is a picture. I think it is not much different, but others may like to comment and confirm if it looks better in other cars in the segment. Perhaps the leather upholstery and matching paint masks the hinges in the picture below. |
vnabhi, other cars don't have visible hinges. The hinges are part of the arm rest itself, not at all visible anywhere.