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Originally Posted by Vigkey However, why do you think it will help us if we go past the looks and buy this car? And even more, why should we buy the car to help Maruti?? For majority of Indians car is a HUGE investment and is symbol of status in the society. |
It will help you since you are getting a dynamically sound car with a lot of features even in the base model. It will help Maruti since its cash registers will be ringing. I disagree with car being a symbol of status. Just because I have a thing on four wheels doesn't mean much these days. Cars are no longer a luxury.
IMO, S-Cross is the first true crossover. It has the length of a big car and sufficient GC to to not be bothered by big craters. Others are just Pseudos pretending to be one. Ecosport may be a exception but being under 4M, it doesn't necessarily feel big.
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Originally Posted by Vigkey Ecosport has a LOT of muscle and high ground clearance, flat bonnet and a rear mounted spare wheel making it LOOK like an SUV. i20 Active has a lot of distinguishing features that separates it from i20 and also the long flat bonnet gives it some good SUV-like looks.
Next set of Crossovers (only including compact ones and not the 7-seaters like XUV and Aria) are more mature and designed to look exactly like SUVs and not like hatchbacks with claddings. They are over 4 m length and the design is to look butch like an SUV with flat bonnet and good ground clearance and sometimes equipped with AWD also. |
Unfortunate that we restrict the SUV to just the way it looks. A 2WD SUV is not going to take you a lot of places which an S-Cross cannot. SX-4 sedan would very well do all that a 2WD Duster does. And how many actually buy AWD versions of these cars? Very very meagre I suppose as mentioned by someone earlier in the thread.
Also Elite i20 offers a lot more features than base Active. And there is no other model of S-Cross in the market. One is not paying for the claddings here but the whole car. So that argument doesn't apply here.
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Originally Posted by Vigkey For majority of buyers spending over 10 L, status is VERY important and so looks will automatically come into picture and unfortunately for S-Cross, looks is not its strength. |
Is there some research you conducted or you are talking about all customers assuming they have a similar mindset as yours? The price is not yet announced and Maruti have quite a gap in the price range to place the S-Cross in. Again, Status/Luxury is no longer associated with a car in this range. Duster starts at 8L and to an outsider it will not matter if it is the top of the line or the base model. It is a Duster. Period.
If that is Status, then I am out of words to comment
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Originally Posted by Vigkey One should buy a car if and only if it satisfies him. Obviously no car is perfect and suits one to the T. I for one, will buy the car which makes me feel that I am making the least amount of compromises. And looks is one department I will not make much of a compromise. My car will reflect my personality and why should I look past it and compromise on it? |
There is no perfect car that will match the requirements of any given customer. S-Cross doesn't look like an SUV because it is not one.
If customers can't get that into their head, then it is not Maruti's fault here as they never mentioned it to be one. A car is much more than looks. And Maruti seem to have gotten most things right in that case with S-Cross with respect to safety feature, interiors and space as well.
If at all a person buys it for their requirements, he/she wouldn't be too bothered about the exterior appearance as one cannot look at it once inside the car. It is launched in India just how it looks abroad as well.
Finally, none of the models that are a competitor to S-Cross are actually selling well these days. Duster has waned off, Terrano never took off and that leaves only the Ecosport which is long in tooth and urgently needs some facelift along with new features to make it appealing. We don't know how much of an impact Creta is going to make. We will see in the months to come if the market has matured or still sticking to 'it doesn't look the part' mode
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Originally Posted by pgsagar
Schumifan, I only meant Scross looks ugly. Period. SUV or Crossover or whatever. And we hardly bother about what they sell and buy in Europe. Here, we attach lot of importance to looks. Well, most of us do. |
Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I certainly don't think the S-Cross is ugly but it does not look like an SUV because it ain't one.
And I think people are bothered about what they sell/buy in Europe. There was a whole gang demanding the same spec Swift as they sold in Europe, to be available in India.
Maybe our memories are short.
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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR Disagree. That would still be the Duster, specially since it offers AWD in our markets. |
Yes, just revisited the norms and found Duster satisfied it all. A good car it is but heavily overpriced for the space and ride it offers.
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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR Which one would I buy? Given a choice only between these two - it has to be the S-Cross. From the reviews, it reminds me a lot of the Punto - brilliant ride and handling dynamics, good highway cruising ability, no nonsense looks, high GC etc, but with a lot more powerful engine and some added features and space all around. Might not make the neighbours envious, but would be a brilliant car to live with! |
Exactly what you have mentioned above. I am still not sure where the price range would be, but Maruti generally don't get their price wrong and even their Ciaz venture is reasonably successful to hope that they will repeat the same with S-Cross.