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Team BHP was recently invited on the Renault Nissan Alliance Tour. It began with the Datsun launch which is covered elsewhere in the forum. It was then followed by a round table in Chennai with Mr Carlo Ghosn and his team. The next day we were taken on a very brief trip around the Renault Nissan Technical Centre and also the Renault Nissan Alliance Factory.

Objective of this tour was to understand more about the Renault Nissan Alliance operations and future India plans. Note - this thread will have very little pictures but a lot of data!

The Round Table began with an hour's address by Carlo Ghosn CEO of the Renault Nissan Alliance. On a personal note, I was quite impressed with his dynamism, his knowledge about what happens on the ground in his operations.

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His comments on various topics are as follows:

Focus on India.


The CMF-A Platform Announcement


Comment on Current India Market Scene

This segment of the presentation began with a initial address by Marc Nassif, MD Renault India who maintained that India is a fast track growth story for Renault and is now 11th largest market. That's quite amazing considering that it did it with mainly Nissan models, Duster excepted.

We were then take through the Renault story by the executive director marketing Sumit Sahwney (ex GM)

Renault has become the 8th largest company in 2 years. (however, the gap between 1st /2nd and 8th is massive!)

What Renault really looked into were the demographics

Indian Society is rooted - people look for the best. The Renault brand in India is positioned that people should expect more of of life. It should be an accessible premium brand. Renault are very focused on the first time buyer. Price not the only factor. Indians do not want cheap, old products,

The following are the areas that Renault plan to leverage for for its brand positioning

Renault claimed the following achievements:

Renault committed and delivered 5 products in 18 months. (The Duster was the main achievement, the mass market products are s dependent on re-badged Nissan products - but they do not mention this!)


In terms of sales, the sales figures are as follows:

2011 - 1400 cars
2012 - 35000
2013 - 70000 (estimated)

This has led to a 2.6 % market share

The products cover 37 % of the market segment and span 85% of India's market reach.

Renault 2013 priorities

The products will share different platforms and sub assemblies as long as customers are happy, not confused

During the question and answer session, we asked a lot of questions about the brands cannabalising each other. The response was that Renault is more compared with Fiat, VW, Ford etc and Nissan is compared to Toyota and Hyundai.

The management claimed that the Scala/ Pulse carry Renault brand values. That got to me, so I challenged them that if you are so confident, would you sell these products in Europe as Renaults. They then backtracked and admitted that these models were developed on a limited budget to fill the India product line. Brand value is being focussed more on the experience than the product. If they really mean this, they need to do something really special.

The next presentation was by

Toru Hasagawa, Corp. Vice President, Africa, Middle East and Europe

Nissan Global Update
-Brand power
-Sales power
-Enhancing quality
-Zero emission leadership
-Business expanson
-Cost leadership

FY2007 sales ratio for high growth market was 40% and mature markets was 60%. This ratio is now reversed.

Production in India

2010 2 lakhs
2012 4 lakhs
2016 >5 lakhs

Localisation Targets

2012 88%
2013 94% targeted
2014 97% targeted

All engines will be 80% localised by 2014 ( currently 60%)

Exports

India Market Strategy

Nissan and Datsun will share same dealer network but actual code of operation will be defined

Nissan reluctantly admitted that the Hover is not working well. They are learning a lot but expansion is on track despite this. At this point, the replies were evasive but we understood Nissan and communicating directly with dealers to resolve issues.

We were then treated to a presentation by a leading anaylst Michael Dunne. His presentation warranted a separate thread

We were taken to visit the RNTBCI in Mahindra World City. We did not get a tour of the the facility as such. We were confined to the cafeteria and various presentations were made.

Note: We were shown a lot of presentation material but since they were labelled confidential, I can only share my notes based on this

An over view of RNTBC

This is the only joint technical centre between Renault and Nissan. It is used to extract synergies of the following

It started with 1000 employees in 2008 and has close to 3950 employees.

70% work in R&D
10% in IT
5% in the BPO

Average age of the employees is 29 years. Only 3% are expats. 23% are freshers, 20+ have 10years + experience., hence if you are a youngster looking for a car design career, you can look in over here!

The research and development work on two areas, - Digital CAD and Physical Validation. It initially begin with the physical validation of the Nissan/ Renault models that we see. A lot of the digital CAD began with the cost savings and localisation of the k9k engine and the new Datsun GO

We were then taken through some presentations on

Renault first did a lot of research on the Indian Market. They understood the following
  1. Driving Environment - Fuel, Bad Roads, Crowded Roads
  2. Customers - Status was more important than functionality
  3. Competition - Competition was dynamic (Read impending EcoSport)

The project scope for adapting the Duster was as follows

Exterior - Add more chrome and make it look up-market
Interiors - More upmarket feel
Premiumness - Rear seat comfort
Dynamic - Ride and handling over bad roads


Exteriors - The larger chrome grille on the front, the rear number plate embellishment as well as symmetrical rear lights are the outcome of this as well as extra badges to define the trim levels.

Interiors

A lot of work was done on this. The following changes were made


Premium-ness

This focused on the rear seat comfort. Some specific India features include

Ride and Handling

The European spec Duster is oriented in the following priority

General handling
1: High speed cornering
2: Steering effort
3: Braking -Wet and Dry
4: Durability
5: Ride comfort
6: Road camber effect

For India, the ride and handling is optimized in the following order

1: Ride comfort
2: Braking -Wet and Dry
3: Durability
4: Steering effort
5: Road camber effect
6: General handling
7: High speed cornering

Based on these inputs, Renault have scored with a winner. However, the Ecosport and other forthcoming rivals poses an interesting challenge.

The K9K engine is made in 3 facilities globally and powers 26 Nissan/ Renault Models.

It is the second largest selling engine in India. (considering they have only one plant as opposed to Maruti/Fiat/GM - having three facilities to manufacture the same engine, fixed costs are much lower.

So if you are wondering how the Nissan Active is price competitive - now we know!

We were taken to the plant for a quick visit. Our movements were limited to very few places and picture restricted (may be there were a few Terrano's and Qashqai's lurking around)

Some facts about the factory


We were then taken around to three areas

1: Body in white - we saw no automation, panels were hand welded together

Renault Nissan Alliance Discovery Tour-renault-body-while.jpg

2: Final assembly - Dusters and Sunny's were being assembled on the same line. Most Sunny's were left hand drive for export. The sequence seemed to be 2 dusters and then a Sunny

Renault Nissan Alliance Discovery Tour-renault-assembly.jpg

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3: Engine shop : No pics were allowed - again very little automation

The basis of production here has been on keeping things frugal and flexible - low automation and high localisation

Disclaimer - Team-BHP was invited by Renault Nissan Alliance for the tour. All travel and lodging expenses were paid by them

Thanks for the great insight , though for RNAIPL , Renault Nissan Alliance India Pvt Ltd suits well , it is Automotive India in place of Alliance India -:) . Did you hear anything about possible new line or plant itself for their A entry car ranges planned from 2015 ?

Great notes Ajit.
My only take: We may not see more utility vehicles from the Renault stable.

But looks like a modest realistic approach from the house of Renault-Nissan.

It looks like Mr Ghosn is more of a Renault man rather than Nissan. Even the production of the cars tell us the whole story. Were any other additional cars spotted? For instance we may see any new model Nissan is contemplating (Terrano). Also, how is the manufacturing quality of the factory?

Thanks for the valuable insights.

Cheers,

Achyuth

Good report. Liked the way you asked the question regarding Renault Pulse and Scala. I was wondering how you could spot the updated Renault Fluence in factory premises. Now I got the answer.

A small clarification. Can you verify the export volume figure of Nissan Micra? I think it's not a correct figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmat (Post 3185059)

Exports
  • 1270000 Micra's exported
  • $365 m parts
  • Nissan is India's second largest automotive exporter


Having more than one location for spare parts is a good idea. But they should take a cue out of what happened to maruti/tata and just move to Gujarat. No offence meant to any of the fellow members who belong to the mentioned places. Its just my humble opinion

Good thread Ajmat !
Helps us keep abreast of the plans and trends. I would also love to see plans for combined ASS facility for Renault-Nissan or being able to service Nissan at Renault facility and vice versa. This would please the customers since they get more options and also will be possible for the Renault-Nissan to reach out to customers from more locations. I am happy to note that India is becoming an export hub for Auto industry.
By the way, priorities for European spec duster is mouthwatering, Don't know when our roads and infrastructre will improve and we can also expect the priorities in that order.

Nice & informative. I got my first service on the Duster done today. Just a check up & wash. No oil changes. A bill of INR 1260/-

Hand brake adjusted, brake adjusted, the steering column cover was loose, came back the same way without being attended. The main issue with the Duster is the shudder of the engine when started. No solution offered. This is how it is - is what I was told.

Requested engine oil change, told it is not recommended.

Overall ok, but not great. They also added a scratch on the front bumper as a "return gift"

First time ever I sent the driver to get the service done...as I could not go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vishnana (Post 3191522)
Did you hear anything about possible new line or plant itself for their A entry car ranges planned from 2015 ?

I did not, but my guess is it will be either where the Datsun Go is assembled or a new line where the CMF-A model will be built

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achyuth Vaibhav (Post 3191589)
It looks like Mr Ghosn is more of a Renault man rather than Nissan. Even the production of the cars tell us the whole story. Were any other additional cars spotted? For instance we may see any new model Nissan is contemplating (Terrano). Also, how is the manufacturing quality of the factory?

He is a Renault man, most strategic functions of the alliance are run by Renault. Quality is quite good and meets the benchmarks


Quote:

Originally Posted by shinuak (Post 3191848)
Good thread Ajmat !
Helps us keep abreast of the plans and trends. I would also love to see plans for combined ASS facility for Renault-Nissan or being able to service Nissan at Renault facility and vice versa. .

I asked the Renault folks about that. Separate front ends and a common back end process for dealers. They said it was never considered.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxTorque (Post 3191690)
Good report. Liked the way you asked the question regarding Renault Pulse and Scala. I was wondering how you could spot the updated Renault Fluence in factory premises. Now I got the answer.

A small clarification. Can you verify the export volume figure of Nissan Micra? I think it's not a correct figure.

This is what the Nissan senior executive told me.


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