[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by harpreetsubhi

Just for information of all Ertiga lovers, Maruti is already worried. Maruti is offering 50000 discount on all Ertiga variants this month. So Ertiga lovers can go a kill.

Originally Posted by n_naik

Just a small out of topic query here. Is it 50k cash discount or freebies worth 50k ?

It is definitely Cash Discount of 30,000 and 20,000 in case you exchange your old car. That's exchange Bonus.

When I picked in Oct 2013, it was 20,000 Cash discount and another 20,000 for exchange.

I have seen that MSIL keeps shifting between 20k-30k as cash discount for most of their models (SX4 being an exception which went all the way to 60k just as cash discount).

So to answer your question, its only 30k Discount as of now unless you want to sell your existing car too!

Originally Posted by Vid6639

There is no way anyone can fit into the third row, if the middle row is all the way backwards. You have to move it forward even for a child to get inside. Forget the Volvo B9R, even the Innova has way more legroom at the 3rd row. Let's not go overboard and say that 3rd row is good in an Ertiga. It's bad in the Ertiga and it's similar in the Mobilio only lower so feels less comfortable.

Agreed! If Second row is pulled all the way back in the Ertiga, the leg space reduces to hold a Hockey stick. But then, who in the world would actually do that and punish anyone on the 3rd row. If I am using the 3rd row, I would happily use the split seat option of the second row to smartly pull one of the 2 split seats ahead and make way for better leg room.

Have traveled with all 3 rows and to accommodate all of them in peace, the first 2 rows needs to be adjusted accordingly.

The sea of beige is a pain to keep clean. For heaven's sake even the steering and gear lever are completely beige. They get dirty within days. Why not change the colour scheme to bring in some much needed change after 3+ years?

Indeed a pain and that made me poorer by a few thousand bucks when I picked vinyl and carpet cleaner that I regulary use whenever we are back from a weekend drive!!

Guys, lets wait for the reviews and I too have the same feel that the Mobilio will be better packaged and give bang for buck spent on it.

Does that make me a Honda or a Maruti Fanboy? Well, I am fan of competition!

[harpreetsubhi]

Originally Posted by n_naik

Just a small out of topic query here. Is it 50k cash discount or freebies worth 50k ?

Hello Mr. Naik

Its 50K cash discount. It was 30K till June 30, 2014.

A ZDi (in case you are interested in Diesel variant) now comes near to 9 Lakhs including everything.

Cheers
Harpreet

[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by n_naik

Just a small out of topic query here. Is it 50k cash discount or freebies worth 50k ?

This is from a dealership in Bangalore and when I checked with them, its on 30k Cash Discount with 20k as exchange Bonus (For the Month of July 2014).

However, they did mention accessories worth Rs.5000/- Free for the Ertiga.

[sajanjohn]

I believe the discount amount varies between South and North. Reason is, Last month I remember seeing 60K discount ad(Inclusive of all) for ertiga in Gurgaon and same time in Bangalore I got 52K(Inclusive of cash + exchange + corporate).

[Prodigy07]

Being an Ertiga owner, I would like to see if the rear movable seats in Mobilio rattle or not. I am seriously getting irritated with this noise during my daily drive to office inspite of driving on nice NH 45. I expect Honda to offer a well packaged ride. I don't mind the outdated interiors as long as I get a trouble/rattle free drive.

[oli.ferns]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

The sea of beige is a pain to keep clean. For heaven's sake even the steering and gear lever are completely beige. They get dirty within days. Why not change the colour scheme to bring in some much needed change after 3+ years?

The Indonesian RS model has black interiors, lets hope that they do something similar with the RS launch in India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMo570vIxCE

[Hvt77]

Originally Posted by Axe77

The Diesel engine is superbly efficient and a petrol AT option of honda pedigree is to the best of my knowledge not available in this segment. The only other option will require you to go all the way to the full blown SUVs at 30 lakh.

Is anything clear about the AT (CVT) part of the mobilio? initially almost everyone said it would come with the same cvt as city....last few days the leaked brochures etc and reports said only manual....now one or two posts saying CVT might be an option...so what's the final word?

i was really looking forward to the Mobilio CVT since it would serve both my needs, of space and easy drive (for my sore legs and the infrequent drive in the neighborhood for better half, borrowing maruti's AMT terminology here!!)

what do the esteemed members here feel? if i must have an automatic, with lots of space, and safety features too, with top budget of 10 L...what do i go for now, if the mobilio at is not coming? city cvt? i20 at? grand i10 at?

[tj123]

As per Economic times Honda will launch the Mobilio on July 23 with a expected price closer to the Rs 6 lakh mark for the base petrol variant.

http://auto.economictimes.indiatimes...-july/38079905

[Guna]

ACI has come up with a shootout and picks Mobilio against the Ertiga despite the expected premium of about 70-80 k.
http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-fea...-389125.aspx/0

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by Hvt77

Is anything clear about the AT (CVT) part of the mobilio?


if i must have an automatic, with lots of space, and safety features too, with top budget of 10 L...what do i go for now, if the mobilio at is not coming? city cvt? i20 at? grand i10 at?

Is Mobilio AT coming

I am no authority but my personal intuitive feel - I'm very sure is that they will bring an AT option at some point, if not at launch then some time after. There's absolutely no reason they shouldn't offer it and if you look at the entire range (Brio, Amaze and City) - they've chosen to offer an AT with each one of them. No reason why they shouldn't offer it with Mobilio since the City engine being offered already comes with an AT so no incremental investment either in that sense. It will be another unique differentiator for the Mobilio in terms of pulling people into the showroom.


Which other AT

Over the last 7-8 years, we've owned an i10, i20 and Honda City among other cars so am sticking my neck to put some personal perspective here. People may of course disagree - these are just my takeaways based on ownership of each of these cars.

I'm not a fan of the i20 at all. Rather than provide best of both worlds, IMO it doesn't provide best of either world. Its not conveniently compact like an i10 / perhaps i10 grande, nor does it have the comfort of a saloon.

I would buy the City if the budget fits - its a big car with big space yet compact and manoeuvrable enough to never feel too big in the city to pilot. Personally I used to find the City more convenient to turn, pilot and manoeuvre than the i20 (we owned both during the same time). The ride quality of the i20 was also extremely bouncy. In terms of driving and ride comfort, my order would be City > i10 > i20.

If the City doesn't suit for any reason (I suspect it will cross 10L on road) I'd pick the i10 grande AT over the i20 ANY DAY!!

Other options

Outside of what you mentioned, I would also consider the Amaze AT (not Brio since you mentioned space and the Brio boot is exasperatingly tiny).

If VAG is acceptable as an offering, the Polo 1.2 P(AT) is also worth considering. Decent space and perhaps relatively the best performance from the smaller options above. I suspect it may even be more fun to drive than a City AT but I can't say from first hand experience of Polo AT. That's just a guess.

Sidenote: Please do bear in mind that the Hyundai (i10 & i20) have 4 speed ATs. The other ATs discussed here probably have a slightly superior driving experience in that aspect. Again, this is not per se a deal breaker but something I find very annoying having gotten used to only 5 speed ATs.

Hope this helps.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Prodigy07

Being an Ertiga owner, I would like to see if the rear movable seats in Mobilio rattle or not. I am seriously getting irritated with this noise during my daily drive to office inspite of driving on nice NH 45. I expect Honda to offer a well packaged ride. I don't mind the outdated interiors as long as I get a trouble/rattle free drive.

Oops, your rattling seat issue hasn't been solved it?! (I know we are going OT here).

I don't know but have you tried removing the seats and re-installing the same?

Anurag.

[Hvt77]

Originally Posted by Axe77

Is Mobilio AT coming

I am no authority but my personal intuitive feel - I'm very sure is that they will bring an AT option at some point, if not at launch then some time after. There's absolutely no reason they shouldn't offer it and if you look at the entire range (Brio, Amaze and City) - they've chosen to offer an AT with each one of them. No reason why they shouldn't offer it with Mobilio since the City engine being offered already comes with an AT so no incremental investment either in that sense. It will be another unique differentiator for the Mobilio in terms of pulling people into the showroom.


In terms of driving and ride comfort, my order would be City > i10 > i20.

Outside of what you mentioned, I would also consider the Amaze AT (not Brio since you mentioned space and the Brio boot is exasperatingly tiny).

Sidenote: Please do bear in mind that the Hyundai (i10 & i20) have 4 speed ATs. The other ATs discussed here probably have a slightly superior driving experience in that aspect. Again, this is not per se a deal breaker but something I find very annoying having gotten used to only 5 speed ATs.

Thanks axe77 for your detailed reply!

You are right, I was expecting the CVT in mobilio for precisely that reason: honda having that option across all their variants.

But on the flip side, none of the other 7 seaters (5+2 included!!) have it...am hoping that really really doesn't deter honda from adding cvt option to mobilio...and hopefully they do it soon, at least at same time as RS launch in sep/oct?!

And then thanks for comparing the other options and suggesting more.

I had heard that hyundai AT were gas guzzlers compared to others, more so with the honda cvt, which is claimed to give almost same fuel efficiency as the MT! not sure if grand i10 AT is any better from that viewpoint. anyone knows anything on that?

And then, since you suggested the amaze AT, I tried the amaze (MT), space is really good inside, with good overall compactness outside, but i always wanted to ask this to experts: is the amaze AT different from the City CVT? I ask this since the fuel efficiency figure of amaze at (15.6?) is much lower than amaze mt (18?), while city cvt claims same eff as MT?

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by Hvt77

You are right, I was expecting the CVT in mobilio for precisely that reason: honda having that option across all their variants.

But on the flip side, none of the other 7 seaters (5+2 included!!) have it...am hoping that really really doesn't deter honda from adding cvt option to mobilio...and hopefully they do it soon, at least at same time as RS launch in sep/oct?!

That's true but I'm still sure they'll launch AT, regardless of whether or not other 7 seaters in that price range offer AT.

Originally Posted by Hvt77

I had heard that hyundai AT were gas guzzlers compared to others, more so with the honda cvt, which is claimed to give almost same fuel efficiency as the MT! not sure if grand i10 AT is any better from that viewpoint. anyone knows anything on that?

That's true and I forgot to mention that. The Hyundai options are supposed to be less fuel efficient and I see no reason by the Grande i10 will be an exception to that general rule.

Originally Posted by Hvt77

And then, since you suggested the amaze AT, I tried the amaze (MT), space is really good inside, with good overall compactness outside, but i always wanted to ask this to experts: is the amaze AT different from the City CVT? I ask this since the fuel efficiency figure of amaze at (15.6?) is much lower than amaze mt (18?), while city cvt claims same eff as MT?

I can't recall off hand if Amaze is CVT or torque converter. In either event, I don't realistically expect any of these ATs to be "as" fuel efficient as their MT counterparts - whether City or Amaze. If you're picking an AT, budget for a 1-2 kmpl efficiency drop over the MT. I don't know if Polo is any different being DSG - maybe owners can comment.

I think other options being discussed in too much detail runs the risk of going OT for the purpose of this thread. Fact is in all likelihood the Mobilio would get an AT. Lets see if there's more press on this closer to the launch date. Or maybe the dealers might be able to throw light on it more reliably.

[skyfire2892]

Originally Posted by Hvt77

And then, since you suggested the amaze AT, I tried the amaze (MT), space is really good inside, with good overall compactness outside, but i always wanted to ask this to experts: is the amaze AT different from the City CVT? I ask this since the fuel efficiency figure of amaze at (15.6?) is much lower than amaze mt (18?), while city cvt claims same eff as MT?

Amaze AT is not CVT. It is traditional torque converter with 5 speed. Hyundai has 4 speed AT which leads to low FE.

[Nilesh5417]

http://overdrive.in/news/honda-mobil...nels-in-india/

When we brought you our review of the Mobilio last week, most of you echoed our thoughts that the faux wood inlays in the dashboard and door panels of the Mobilio looked low-rent and out of place. We also complained about the infotainment system, which clearly seemed like an afterthought in a bid to combine features like a reverse parking camera, a satellite navigation system and a video player with a conventional audio system.

Well, Honda has responded to the feedback instantly and has confirmed to us that the mock wood panels and the audio-video unit will not make it to the production-spec Mobilio. These two components were restricted only to an option pack based on the top-spec trim and of course, on the RS trim – but the package will now be dropped altogether. The Mobilio will get the same interiors as the Amaze, which is an elegant black-and-beige combination and the audio system will be the 2-DIN unit seen in the Amaze and the Brio.

Four positives maybe?
1. Honda listened!!! That is a serious positive in my mind.
2. Makes it possible to reduce the premium Honda will charge compared to Ertiga.
3. Mobilio interiors though a ctrl+c -> Ctrl+V of the brio, manage not to look heidious and look only a step lower than what you would expect in this car.
4. Leaves room to set the interiors right in Mobilio v1.1 then in 6mths time?