Team-BHP > The Indian Car Scene
Register New Topics New Posts Top Thanked Team-BHP FAQ


Closed Thread
  Search this Thread
91,246 views
Old 22nd December 2012, 08:43   #16
BHPian
 
MetalBuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mumbai, Madison
Posts: 458
Thanked: 256 Times

Quote:
Originally Posted by tushky View Post
just one word. UGLY. and somewhat similar to indigo eCS
Perfectly agree with you, mate. Though, finally I noticed the changes to the headlamps. Thanks for the pic

Quote:
Originally Posted by romeomidhun View Post
Instead of these kind of stupid changes, what Maruti has to do is to replace the current sx4 sedan with two cars - one is the sx4 hatch to compete with the likes of duster, and other is a bigger Dzire for the sedan aspirants. Maruti can sell a bigger better Dzire well because of the brand value of Dzire itself, imo.
True. The only reason the ugly Dzire sells is - there's no other cheap,low on maintenance and reliable "sedan" available at that price point. And for some reason, all of us have that mentality of picking up a sedan for "status" reasons. The Honda Amaze promises to change things though. Will be worth watching what these Maruti guys do after that :P

Maruti's Ertiga move was so competitive. Why not have something else (apart from this as it is clearly not working for MSIL) to compete with the likes of the City, Verna and the Vento? With the current and new avatars of the SX4, it will not be even considered by people just like in today's scenario.

So so disappointed!

On side lines, as mentioned here, they are trying to chuck this into the sub-4m category. Might be. However, wouldn't that also mean that they have to curtail the engine capacity down to 1.2 to avail of Excise benefits?

Last edited by MetalBuff : 22nd December 2012 at 08:49.
MetalBuff is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 22nd December 2012, 09:01   #17
MHG
BHPian
 
MHG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: McLeod Ganj
Posts: 342
Thanked: 295 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

I don't think the SX4 sedan can ever be brought below 4 meters in length. The SX4 crossover hatch itself is over 4m in length. And why would MSIL be interested in a SECOND sub-4m sedan ? DZire is keeping all MSIL Sedan customers extremely happy right now and is the king of C1 sedans.

Thanks to the small MUV and SUV boom, C2 sedans seem to anyway be under fire and over half of that pie belongs to MSIL's own Ertiga with the XA-Alpha concept's production version out in a year or two sure to take a bigger piece of the pie now (if it manages to beat the Duster and the Ecosport). And with the recent Indian Government decision to gradually replace their HM Ambassador fleet with the SX4, they have a guaranteed market for the SX4s. So this minor facelift only seems to be for keeping interest in the car alive...
MHG is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 22nd December 2012, 09:38   #18
BHPian
 
Prodigyy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Delhi
Posts: 205
Thanked: 95 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

This seems to be a waste of time & money from MSIL, Sx4 is way too old for a facelift, and this toyota style grille only manages to rob the Sx4 of its muscular looks. Someone in this thread pointed out that they are integrating navigation system into the vehicle, i think MSIL should go the Tata Manza Club class way but unfortunately even that won't really help Maruti to garner 1000+ numbers every month.

And a sub 4m Sx4 is a definite no-no, Sx4 managed to sell in huge numbers just a couple of years ago, it was only in 2012 that the Sx4 struggled throughout with a whole lot of competition thrown into the market. I think MSIL should continue holding onto its horses with the Sx4 positioned in the premium Sedan segment competing with the City, Rapids, Ventos & the Vernas. This strategy would pay-off very well IMO once MSIL manages to come up with the 1.6L Diesel & a beefed up petrol version of the Sx4 somewhere in 2014 (i hope ).

Till that time, it would be the government vehicle fleets & a select few "aam aadmi" who want a no non-sense, jack of all trades car that would keep the Sx4 crawling upwards of its current 600 to somewhere near 800-1000 units per month.
Prodigyy is offline  
Old 22nd December 2012, 11:27   #19
Senior - BHPian
 
CARDEEP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NCR
Posts: 3,297
Thanked: 2,616 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

I hope Suzuki starts working on development of new engine for the range as the next gen SX4 still runs on the same lineup as the older one, i.e. they have not spent a single dime on engine development & it has fallen behind to other Jap manufacturers in terms of overall performance & refinement.

Moreover, they should have narrower tyres (185 mm) on the lower version (VXi) & probably a stripped down LXi version on the SX4 as well. The former cold help efficiency & the latter help sales by having a cheaper variant (@ INR 6.5-6.75 Lacs approx).
CARDEEP is offline  
Old 22nd December 2012, 11:37   #20
Senior - BHPian
 
agspins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MH-31
Posts: 1,660
Thanked: 524 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

I guess the newer chopped model will something like this..
Attached Thumbnails
2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!-phpthumb_generated_thumbnail.jpeg  

agspins is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 22nd December 2012, 12:54   #21
Senior - BHPian
 
romeomidhun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: IN
Posts: 3,346
Thanked: 5,269 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

Quote:
Originally Posted by agspins View Post
I guess the newer chopped model will something like this..
Sx4 is about 4.5m in length. Chopping half a meter from it, will chop even the c-pillar!
romeomidhun is online now   (1) Thanks
Old 22nd December 2012, 12:56   #22
Distinguished - BHPian
 
theMAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Avon, CT
Posts: 7,219
Thanked: 1,816 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

This is the eventual end-result of any exercise to convert a body shape designed from the ground-up for one segment, into another segment: disproportionate and sheer ugliness.

The SX4 was originally designed as a compact softroader and not as a sedan. In fact, Maruti would have done well to open their account in the compact SUV segment in India if they had launched the SX4 in its original body shape, rather than to have attempted to position the SX4 as the Baleno's successor.
theMAG is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 22nd December 2012, 19:41   #23
Senior - BHPian
 
shankar.balan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 11,504
Thanked: 24,536 Times
Infractions: 0/1 (5)

Looks past its sell by date already. But it is a competent car. If they would give us the SX4 hatch with 4WD now, that would be nice!
shankar.balan is offline  
Old 22nd December 2012, 20:00   #24
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: noida
Posts: 1,120
Thanked: 561 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

Well I read somewhere ( don't recall exactly where) that MSIL is planning a mini SUV on the "new SX4 platform" somewhere in 2014. The car has been in the market for almost 6 years now. Time for MSIL to replace it. Most other cars were launched a couple of years after the SX4 . The new Honda City with a Diesel is also expected in 2014 ( reason why Honda is not equipping the current City with a Diesel mill in acr near the end of its lfe cycle). I expect that it is a matter of time befor we start getting photos of mules undergoing development.
rajneeesh is offline  
Old 23rd December 2012, 01:49   #25
Distinguished - BHPian
 
swiftnfurious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chennai
Posts: 7,243
Thanked: 9,763 Times

Quote:
Originally Posted by rajneeesh View Post
Well I read somewhere ( don't recall exactly where) that MSIL is planning a mini SUV on the "new SX4 platform" somewhere in 2014....
The mini SUV will be based on the Swift platform, not SX4!
swiftnfurious is offline  
Old 23rd December 2012, 07:36   #26
BHPian
 
prince85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 971
Thanked: 123 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

From what i see in those spy pics, the rear end doesnt seem to have been chopped whatsoever compared to the SX4 which is sold in the Indian market today. The front end is camouflaged and one can clearly see a new front bumper design there. The rest of the car including the headlights remain the same from what i can see in these pics.

Cheers
prince85 is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 23rd December 2012, 11:54   #27
BANNED
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: MUMBAI
Posts: 65
Thanked: 62 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

As per what I heard, maruti is going to update the sx4 by 2014. And the news in some japanese forums who focus on scoops is that the new sx4 sedan and hatch (s-cross) wont be sharing the same platform or looks or front end or mechanicals any more..

lets wait and watch till then
Carophilic is offline  
Old 23rd December 2012, 14:16   #28
BHPian
 
MetalBuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mumbai, Madison
Posts: 458
Thanked: 256 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

Quote:
Originally Posted by agspins View Post
I guess the newer chopped model will something like this..
Quote:
Originally Posted by romeomidhun View Post
Sx4 is about 4.5m in length. Chopping half a meter from it, will chop even the c-pillar!
Quote:
Originally Posted by prince85 View Post
From what i see in those spy pics, the rear end doesnt seem to have been chopped whatsoever compared to the SX4 which is sold in the Indian market today. The front end is camouflaged and one can clearly see a new front bumper design there. The rest of the car including the headlights remain the same from what i can see in these pics.

Cheers

Quote:
Originally Posted by prince85 View Post
From what i see in those spy pics, the rear end doesnt seem to have been chopped whatsoever compared to the SX4 which is sold in the Indian market today. The front end is camouflaged and one can clearly see a new front bumper design there. The rest of the car including the headlights remain the same from what i can see in these pics.

Cheers
I now agree to this fact, that the rear has not been chopped off for sure. Was driving today and came across a SX4. Tried looking at the same angle as in the snapshot and understood very clearly that it's the same with this new one as well.

However, as from the Photoshopped image, better to have a hatch than a negligible boot. Still for some reason, preferred the look. Looks like a close cousin to the Chevy SRV
MetalBuff is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 23rd December 2012, 20:50   #29
BHPian
 
roshan_cruise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dubai (Thane)
Posts: 53
Thanked: 33 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

I have seen some SX4 hatchbacks here in dubai.

I ,frankly like this design rather than Sedan type. Why not launch something like this in india?

[Ya that would mean Swift would have a competition with one of it's own, but still would love to see something like this]

Loved the below design
2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!-suzukisx4hatchbacksedan0011280.jpg

2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!-6435_cc0640_001_zmv.jpg

2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!-2008suzukisx40001.jpg

Mods:- Found these pictures from Google search, so would give credit to the respective sites
roshan_cruise is offline  
Old 24th December 2012, 10:35   #30
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Chandigarh
Posts: 259
Thanked: 143 Times
Re: 2013 Maruti Suzuki SX4 facelift SPIED!

Maruti has XA-alpha, SX4 1.9 Diesel and GV Diesel(2WD) on the cards, exact order and timing is not available, but things are surely cooking well and all this will be on road in less than two years. Looking forward to the new cheaper GV.
gharika is offline  
Closed Thread

Most Viewed


Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks