Ethanol blending to be made mandatory

schwartz · 2nd February 2022, 11:14

Apparently, the additional Rs 2/l excise is applicable on all all unblended fuel including diesels. I wasn't even aware that diesel was blended.

hrishig · 2nd February 2022, 12:58

Layman question

How to identify blended and non-blended fuel on any petrol pump? Will all power/speed etc premium variants always be non-blended?

Side question:- Which petrol type will be suitable for the 2.0 TSI engine in long run?

KPR · 2nd February 2022, 13:21

Can we blend methanol with petrol? Reason why I'm asking this is that Indian govt is mulling over setup of several coal to methanol projects in India. Announcement from yesterday's budget:

https://www.freepressjournal.in/busi...version-plants

volkman10 · 14th March 2022, 10:52

India would soon have cars with flexi engines running on either 100% ethanol or 100% petrol.

Though such cars would have hybrid arrangements to run on electric as well.

Govt. says:

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Hyundai, Suzuki and Toyoto have promised me to launch their products in the market as soon as possible. Cars with flexi engines will be on the roads in the next six months,

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Coal is a costly fuel and not commercially-viable. Although ethanol can be produced in abundance, especially in Eastern India with rice bran, green hydrogen would be most efficient,

The government was in a bid to promote operation of construction equipment with bio- CNG and bio-LNG. It was looking forward to fast-track the use of alternative fuel, in transportation in view of the emerging energy crisis, especially in the wake of the Ukraine-Russia war.

Link

volkman10 · 25th April 2022, 10:55

All Maruti Suzuki Cars Will Be E20 Fuel Compliant Before April 2023. Goes Hybrid on the path to Electrification.

Maruti Suzuki is on track to launch E20 material compliant vehicles by 2023. Adding to it, the company will also launch cars with strong hybrid powertrain in the near future.

On the powertrain technology, the company’s electrification strategy is to follow the route of introducing mild hybrids, then strong hybrids and EVs.

Link

KPR · 25th April 2022, 11:05

Many petrol vehicles affected due to this 10% Ethanol mixed in petrol especially in petrol filled from IOCL Guwahati. Now who will bear the cost of repair?

https://www.guwahatiplus.com/exclusi...hanol-blending

https://www.sentinelassam.com/guwaha...trouble-589032

volkman10 · 28th October 2022, 10:46

Jamkhandi to get India's first flex fuel station.

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Jamkhandi in Bagalkot district, nearly 500 km from Bengaluru, will get a ‘flex fuel’ station that will be India’s first, according to the company is setting it up.

The flex fuel station coming up at Bagalkot will provide bio CNG, ethanol-blended gasoline and a charging facility for electric vehicles.

Link

Gansan · 28th October 2022, 12:12

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Originally Posted by KPR

Many petrol vehicles affected due to this 10% Ethanol mixed in petrol

How come we have not come across this issue in Chennai/TN yet? Ethanol is blended to petrol here as well. Do we have any way of buying unblended petrol except going for 100 octame fuel?

shankar.balan · 28th October 2022, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Gansan

How come we have not come across this issue in Chennai/TN yet? Ethanol is blended to petrol here as well. Do we have any way of buying unblended petrol except going for 100 octame fuel?

How much ethanol is blended in IOCL XP95?
Any idea?

Gansan · 28th October 2022, 12:24

^^ I think it is 10% across all fuels except 97/100 octane. Soon to reach 20%.

KPR · 28th October 2022, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gansan

How come we have not come across this issue in Chennai/TN yet? Ethanol is blended to petrol here as well. Do we have any way of buying unblended petrol except going for 100 octame fuel?

Problem could be any of these 1. Moisture/water containing ethanol from sources. 2. Petrol pumps not having leak proof sumps. If 2 is the reason we could have got same issues in TN as well.

ajayc123 · 28th October 2022, 12:55

One reason to start thinking about EV is to rise above the fuel mix anxiety.

Does anybody know if there are ways to adulterate / mix something with the electricity used for charging the EV?

shankar.balan · 28th October 2022, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gansan

^^ I think it is 10% across all fuels except 97/100 octane. Soon to reach 20%.

I want to find an authentic source in reference IOCL XP 95 ethanol content if any.
There needs to be a public awareness website or something.

Gansan · 28th October 2022, 20:29

I think the fuel sold in TN currently is E10. My 2009 model Alto has not given any problems so far. I think it was designed for E10 even then. I am worried what will happen when we have E20.

I have a 2000 model Splendor, which has also not shown any problem so far. I am sure they would not have designed it for blended fuel back then.

Edit: May car's manual states it is good to go with ethanol blend no higher than 5%. It is running smoothly on 10% blend. But still I am worried.

ph03n!x · 23rd March 2023, 10:54

This popped up in my Twitter feed -

Ethanol blending to be made mandatory-img_20230323_104835_605.jpg

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So does it mean car makers will have time to be prepared until 2025 - 26 to be E20 compliant? Will they cover car models sold in the past too, or will we have to eventually scrap them after messing up the engine and fuel lines with E20?!

2nd February 2022, 11:14	#121
schwartz BHPian Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Mumbai Posts: 35 Thanked: 141 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory Apparently, the additional Rs 2/l excise is applicable on all all unblended fuel including diesels. I wasn't even aware that diesel was blended.
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2nd February 2022, 12:58	#122
hrishig BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 466 Thanked: 182 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory Layman question How to identify blended and non-blended fuel on any petrol pump? Will all power/speed etc premium variants always be non-blended? Side question:- Which petrol type will be suitable for the 2.0 TSI engine in long run?
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2nd February 2022, 13:21	#123
KPR BANNED Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Dholakpur Posts: 828 Thanked: 2,534 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory Can we blend methanol with petrol? Reason why I'm asking this is that Indian govt is mulling over setup of several coal to methanol projects in India. Announcement from yesterday's budget: https://www.freepressjournal.in/busi...version-plants Last edited by KPR : 2nd February 2022 at 13:27.
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25th April 2022, 10:55	#125
volkman10 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: -- Posts: 23,899 Thanked: 69,864 Times View My Garage	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory All Maruti Suzuki Cars Will Be E20 Fuel Compliant Before April 2023. Goes Hybrid on the path to Electrification. Maruti Suzuki is on track to launch E20 material compliant vehicles by 2023. Adding to it, the company will also launch cars with strong hybrid powertrain in the near future. On the powertrain technology, the company’s electrification strategy is to follow the route of introducing mild hybrids, then strong hybrids and EVs. Link Last edited by volkman10 : 25th April 2022 at 10:57.
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25th April 2022, 11:05	#126
KPR BANNED Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Dholakpur Posts: 828 Thanked: 2,534 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory Many petrol vehicles affected due to this 10% Ethanol mixed in petrol especially in petrol filled from IOCL Guwahati. Now who will bear the cost of repair? https://www.guwahatiplus.com/exclusi...hanol-blending https://www.sentinelassam.com/guwaha...trouble-589032
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28th October 2022, 12:24	#130
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,562 Thanked: 5,650 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory ^^ I think it is 10% across all fuels except 97/100 octane. Soon to reach 20%.
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28th October 2022, 12:55	#132
ajayc123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Delhi Posts: 917 Thanked: 2,372 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory One reason to start thinking about EV is to rise above the fuel mix anxiety. Does anybody know if there are ways to adulterate / mix something with the electricity used for charging the EV?
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28th October 2022, 20:29	#134
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,562 Thanked: 5,650 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory I think the fuel sold in TN currently is E10. My 2009 model Alto has not given any problems so far. I think it was designed for E10 even then. I am worried what will happen when we have E20. I have a 2000 model Splendor, which has also not shown any problem so far. I am sure they would not have designed it for blended fuel back then. Edit: May car's manual states it is good to go with ethanol blend no higher than 5%. It is running smoothly on 10% blend. But still I am worried. Last edited by Gansan : 28th October 2022 at 20:42.
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23rd March 2023, 10:54	#135
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,582 Thanked: 6,055 Times	Re: Ethanol blending to be made mandatory This popped up in my Twitter feed - Source So does it mean car makers will have time to be prepared until 2025 - 26 to be E20 compliant? Will they cover car models sold in the past too, or will we have to eventually scrap them after messing up the engine and fuel lines with E20?!
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