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Originally Posted by ampere Can you elaborate on the space? I thought 3 can be seated nicely in a Duster, while they would have some difficulty in an Ecosport. (Both from width and leg room)
How is the transmission tunnel hump for the middle row? Duster is a bit flatter.
Great inputs MAS ! |
Ecosport and Duster felt to be almost identical on space (leg room). Duster felt a bit more spacious at the rear and wider.
The transmission tunnel hump in the Ecosport seemed a tad higher than the duster. I am attaching the rear seat space of Ecosport & the Duster for comparison
Ecosport
Duster
The transmission tunnel hump is also visible in both the pictures.
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Originally Posted by AutoIndian You are thoroughly a gentleman, as you kept your promise of Test Driving the Brazilian Ecosport
Going by the above comparo, it seems the Duster is a notch above the Ecosport in most of the departments, be it ride, space, size etc. I don't think this would be much different in India, so the only way Ford can sway the customers away from the Duster towards the Ecosport, is to play the price card. Pass on the maximum amount of excise duty benefit to the customers & see the Ecosports fly off the shelves.
Looking forward to the pictures that you clicked & the comparo thread between the Ecosport & the Duster. Please share the link here. |
Yes, at the end of the test drive, i felt the same way. I just hope Ford India tunes the suspension and price to more comfortable levels. But even with this package, the Ecosport were literally flying off the shelves in Brazil with a waiting period of 40 days. The Duster on the other hand was not selling too well and was immediately available.
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Originally Posted by vb-san Brazil don’t have the 1.0 EcoBoost? I was expecting a report on that
That was my expectation as well – similar quality interiors as the Fiesta, or probably a bit lower, especially if they have intentions to play the price advantage.
Assume that Ford will be able to get the right tuning for the India version. Afterall ride and handling is their USP.
That’s a bit of a concern. Did it feel flimsy compared to your Fiesta? And you maybe right there – it could be the Focus effect  |
Brazil did not get the 1.0 Ecoboost engine. May be they have an issue with the "Flex" labeling, which means that the engine can run on both Ethanol and Petrol. But Brazil get the option of two engines, 1.6 L and the 2.0 L.
The interiors of the 2.0 L Titanium is much better than the 1.6 L Freestyle variant. Hope Ford bring the Titanium based interiors for all variants in India.
The Ecosport did feel a bit light, not very sturdy and glued to the road type, like the New Fiesta. Focus is altogether in a different league when it comes to handling and road grip is concerned.
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Originally Posted by Maanspeedo Hats off to you MAS. God bless you for bringing this information to us,the ever hungry , car crazy BHPians
I actually bought the ACI anniversary issue to scroll through Ecosport review and even after reading it , I was not too sure about space and body roll , especially body roll which I am paranoid about .
As per your observations , body roll is more than duster at the corners and you could feel all the undulations of the road which precisely has been the selling point of Duster, no body roll and a 30 lakh car like suspension system.
I am itching to sell my 1 year old Honda city ivtec for a SUV and my search has been longer than the search for the holy grail. I loved duster but waiting is too much and its price just not justify . Fortuner is 26+ and koleos is 29+ , so out of budget. I dont like overdone XUV and thus was really hoping to get all my wishes fulfilled in ecosport ; auto trnasmission,super ride and comparable prices.
Now little doubtful as I just can not compromise with a car which makes me feel every speed breaker or pothole ( ANHC is the same and why should I replace then.)
My question is , how about the space inside the cabin, I am 6 feet 2 inches, would ecosport be comfortable to drive ,ingress, egress with this height . how about the back seat space, can 5.10 to 6 feet people squeeze in comfortably ( sub 4 meter is creating some doubts here ) Please share your observations on this.
And then if nothing works out, then gota wait to see whether TML has any surprises up its sleeve with safari storme on 17th .
Thanks again for being a true blue car lover and taking test rides of both these machines in Brazil . |
Thank you for your kind words. I am 6 feet 2 inches and it was a breeze to drive, ingress, egress the Ecosport. It is a compact SUV and cannot expect much more space from it. The SA was a lady of about 5 feet 5 inches and she could sit comfortably at the rear seat during the test drive.
Please refer to the pictures in this post above for comparative leg room between the duster and the Ecosport.
The body roll is present in the Ecosport, but i would not compare it against the Duster. The two cars drive very differently. The Ecosport has a very stiff suspension and hence felt a bit shaky on patchy roads, whereas the Duster completely absorbed the patches. If i were to be driving on tight curvy roads with a smooth surface, Ecosport will handle much better than the duster. But on rough roads, the ride in the Ecosport will not be as comfortable as the Duster.
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Originally Posted by vibbs Thanks for the review MAS. I guess they will soften the ride a bit for the Indian spec one. Also what trim is the duster available there? Is it same as India.
Aren't we getting the 1 litre here? I guess that should give Ford much more leeway to price it more competetively here against the duster as compared to Brazil. Provided they are willing to pass on the excise benefits to the customer. If they to that I guess we could see much more difference in the pricing wrt the duster here than its there.
As I see it they should not overshoot the Quanto (which itself is overpriced IMO) by too much. |
Thanks Vibbs. The Duster is available in much better trims when compared to India. I will post the scanned copies of the brochures i got in Brazil on the Duster thread.
India will get the 1 Litre Ecoboost Engine. But i guess Ford would factor in the cost of development of the Ecoboost and will price it higher than the regular 1.5 Litre Petrol engine.
The Quanto, i guess, will be no match to the Ecosport in terms of brand value or the driving pleasure. IMO, Ford will price it higher than the Quanto.
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Originally Posted by sridhar-v How would you rate the front legroom and also the rear legroom vis a vis the new Fiesta? |
The legroom is almost identical to the Fiesta.
Front Legroom - Fiesta has slightly more front leg room and the seats (in the Titanium) have better thigh support.
Rear leg room - Ecosport offers a slightly better leg room at the back.