Beware: Chevy Aveo and safety

mxx · 15th March 2006, 08:42

According to "European New Car Assessment Programme" chevy aveo scores low in safety assessment.

http://www.euroncap.com/content/medi...phase_17b.html

Suprising, since it is one of the best selling small car from chevy even in europe and USA. And chevy keeps selling such stuff.

jkdas · 15th March 2006, 08:53

I suggest that one shouldnt be mislead by news like that.Most Indians and Indianized cars too will fail safety test to some extend.

mxx · 15th March 2006, 09:08

ofcourse i dont think indica, indigo, M800 etc would score a great score in such a test.
But when i pay 6lakhs+ for a small car, i expect atleast average safety.

FYI, swift scored 4 star rating in EuroNCAP rating.
And aveo costs more than that.

kgc_cool · 15th March 2006, 09:17

Is there a place where we can compare safety features of cars in the Indian market?

zenx · 15th March 2006, 12:45

The Indica will probably pass the tests reasonably well. The swift has a good rating if i remeber right. The Baleno was not too great. Tata are the only ones with an in house crash test facility which they've benchmarked against european ones. And I've heard of enough people walk away with minor injuries from battered Indicas.

The M800 is a different story - no crumple zones (at least the earlier ones, i think) and no side impact beams. The Reva is much safer cause of its roll cage.

Fiero · 15th March 2006, 13:09

i dont think the aveo will be behind most cars in india(in or around that price range) ... considering a car like a city zx vtec which u shell out 8.6 lac for does not have airbags and ABS/EBD ... it might do well in the crash test...i dont know bout that ... but safety features are NIL ... i wouldn't complain too much about the aveo

mxx · 15th March 2006, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiero

i dont think the aveo will be behind most cars in india(in or around that price range) ... considering a car like a city zx vtec which u shell out 8.6 lac for does not have airbags and ABS/EBD ... it might do well in the crash test...i dont know bout that ... but safety features are NIL ... i wouldn't complain too much about the aveo

if the car is designed with good passive safety features, that itself (along with seatbelts) can bring down the number of fatal injuries to occupants. The active safety features like airbag, abs will decrease injuries further.
So the contruction of the car is more important than active safety features.

BTW, I wonder why honda does not offer ABS, airbag atleast as an option in vtec.

mxx · 15th March 2006, 13:51

>>"i dont think the aveo will be behind most cars in india"
>>"Most Indians and Indianized cars too will fail safety test to some extend."

I did not start this thread because i felt all cars in India except aveo were safe.

My purpose of this thread was
1)There is lot of hype recently on the launch of aveo, since it is GMs next biggest launch.
Many are considering this an option along with swift and getz. I was one of them, so i did a little bit of online research and found this. Personaly aveo is out of my options list cos safety is a concern for me. If anyone is considering aveo as one of his option, and safety is a concern, he should stay away from it.
They better go for Swift(4 star rating) or even getz(4 star ratings).

2)As i said in my first post, i was surprised that such a reputed brand was selling a car which has a below average safety rating. That too a car which had good sales in Europe and USA

msprabhakar · 15th March 2006, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgc_cool

Is there a place where we can compare safety features of cars in the Indian market?

See here... http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/aug/23motoring.htm

thainogkok · 15th March 2006, 16:25

Hyundai Getz

http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=199

Suzuki Swift
http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=213

Suzuki Sx4 ( will launch in India later this year)

http://www.euroncap.com/images/resul...asheet%202.pdf

-The Getz is obtain an acceptable score but
the Swift's score is better.
-The Sx4 got one of the best score in Suv/Crossover.

Fiero · 15th March 2006, 17:47

lets see the overall package ... if the inherent design of that car is not so good on safety you cant compare it with the swift ... but with additional features such as airbags you will be able to compensate to a certain extent for that , and 'with these features' it would still be safer than .. say an ikon or baleno lxi ... so the aveo wont be a complete disaster ... but competing with the swift ... life will be tough for GM
swift is ,afterall ,the first car below 7 lac in india which really has top notch design and safety features together ...

adya33 · 15th March 2006, 18:02

so what ?

So what it doesn't offer highest possible safety?
There are quite a few cars on Indian road already which have not so good crash test result. It will just be an addition to it.

narasimha raju · 15th March 2006, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiero

considering a car like a city zx vtec which u shell out 8.6 lac for does not have airbags and ABS/EBD ...

Honda City in Singapore and Malaysia comes with ABS/EBD and airbags as standard equipment. It costs around SGD 60,000 (Around INR 15 Lakhs) in Singapore, So they might be providing them as standard equipment. But these are not even provided as optional equipment in Indian version.

redcandle · 15th March 2006, 20:25

Hey Guys,

I agree that most of the cars in India would show poor results for safety according to world standards. The cars tested by the EURO NCAP are all mainly European Models and these models have got safety features like ABS/EBD as standard..... Even the Swift that was tested was euro model and the model in India doesnt feature things like side air bags (probably to cut th price down), which earn the car some valuable points.
http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=213 (Read through it and notice the way they mention the extra features; this goes for other cars as well)

So most cars bought in India (excluding fully loaded models) no where as good as their western counterparts, in terms of safety... and India has still got a long way to go to reach there. Even the top range models of sub Rs.10lac car and all cars over Rs.10lac have only a few improvements but not everything that is fitted in Europe/US etc.

I think the Aveo will not fail becouse of this, as many people still buy M800 or Alto despite them being a coffin on wheels and AVeo is much better than them.....

Thanx
redcandle

Fiero · 15th March 2006, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by adya33

so what ?

So what it doesn't offer highest possible safety?
There are quite a few cars on Indian road already which have not so good crash test result. It will just be an addition to it.

very true . just another car

15th March 2006, 08:42	#1
mxx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 772 Thanked: 313 Times	Beware: Chevy Aveo and safety According to "European New Car Assessment Programme" chevy aveo scores low in safety assessment. http://www.euroncap.com/content/medi...phase_17b.html Suprising, since it is one of the best selling small car from chevy even in europe and USA. And chevy keeps selling such stuff.
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,496 Times View My Garage	I suggest that one shouldnt be mislead by news like that.Most Indians and Indianized cars too will fail safety test to some extend.
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mxx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 772 Thanked: 313 Times	think of it... ofcourse i dont think indica, indigo, M800 etc would score a great score in such a test. But when i pay 6lakhs+ for a small car, i expect atleast average safety. FYI, swift scored 4 star rating in EuroNCAP rating. And aveo costs more than that.
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kgc_cool BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 53 Thanked: 6 Times	Is there a place where we can compare safety features of cars in the Indian market?
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15th March 2006, 12:45	#5
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,164 Thanked: 162 Times View My Garage	The Indica will probably pass the tests reasonably well. The swift has a good rating if i remeber right. The Baleno was not too great. Tata are the only ones with an in house crash test facility which they've benchmarked against european ones. And I've heard of enough people walk away with minor injuries from battered Indicas. The M800 is a different story - no crumple zones (at least the earlier ones, i think) and no side impact beams. The Reva is much safer cause of its roll cage. Last edited by zenx : 15th March 2006 at 12:46.
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15th March 2006, 13:09	#6
Fiero BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 359 Thanked: 166 Times	i dont think the aveo will be behind most cars in india(in or around that price range) ... considering a car like a city zx vtec which u shell out 8.6 lac for does not have airbags and ABS/EBD ... it might do well in the crash test...i dont know bout that ... but safety features are NIL ... i wouldn't complain too much about the aveo
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15th March 2006, 13:51	#8
mxx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 772 Thanked: 313 Times	>>"i dont think the aveo will be behind most cars in india" >>"Most Indians and Indianized cars too will fail safety test to some extend." I did not start this thread because i felt all cars in India except aveo were safe. My purpose of this thread was 1)There is lot of hype recently on the launch of aveo, since it is GMs next biggest launch. Many are considering this an option along with swift and getz. I was one of them, so i did a little bit of online research and found this. Personaly aveo is out of my options list cos safety is a concern for me. If anyone is considering aveo as one of his option, and safety is a concern, he should stay away from it. They better go for Swift(4 star rating) or even getz(4 star ratings). 2)As i said in my first post, i was surprised that such a reputed brand was selling a car which has a below average safety rating. That too a car which had good sales in Europe and USA
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15th March 2006, 16:25	#10
thainogkok BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Some where i belong Posts: 189 Thanked: 3 Times	Hyundai Getz http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=199 Suzuki Swift http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=213 Suzuki Sx4 ( will launch in India later this year) http://www.euroncap.com/images/resul...asheet%202.pdf -The Getz is obtain an acceptable score but the Swift's score is better. -The Sx4 got one of the best score in Suv/Crossover. Last edited by thainogkok : 15th March 2006 at 16:26.
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15th March 2006, 17:47	#11
Fiero BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 359 Thanked: 166 Times	lets see the overall package ... if the inherent design of that car is not so good on safety you cant compare it with the swift ... but with additional features such as airbags you will be able to compensate to a certain extent for that , and 'with these features' it would still be safer than .. say an ikon or baleno lxi ... so the aveo wont be a complete disaster ... but competing with the swift ... life will be tough for GM swift is ,afterall ,the first car below 7 lac in india which really has top notch design and safety features together ... Last edited by Fiero : 15th March 2006 at 17:53.
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adya33 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 1,834 Thanked: 185 Times	And ? so what ? So what it doesn't offer highest possible safety? There are quite a few cars on Indian road already which have not so good crash test result. It will just be an addition to it.
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15th March 2006, 20:25	#14
redcandle BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 294 Thanked: 7 Times	All Cars In India Only Comply With Indian Standards Hey Guys, I agree that most of the cars in India would show poor results for safety according to world standards. The cars tested by the EURO NCAP are all mainly European Models and these models have got safety features like ABS/EBD as standard..... Even the Swift that was tested was euro model and the model in India doesnt feature things like side air bags (probably to cut th price down), which earn the car some valuable points. http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=213 (Read through it and notice the way they mention the extra features; this goes for other cars as well) So most cars bought in India (excluding fully loaded models) no where as good as their western counterparts, in terms of safety... and India has still got a long way to go to reach there. Even the top range models of sub Rs.10lac car and all cars over Rs.10lac have only a few improvements but not everything that is fitted in Europe/US etc. I think the Aveo will not fail becouse of this, as many people still buy M800 or Alto despite them being a coffin on wheels and AVeo is much better than them..... Thanx redcandle Last edited by redcandle : 15th March 2006 at 20:35.
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