Pandit claims Registration impossible w/o permanent address proof

EssYouWe · 17th September 2009, 20:26

Hi,

My brother booked a Punto 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pk with Pandit Auto in the first week of the month and we had been promised delivery on the 21st.

Now, the sales rep at Pandit says that the registration can not take place unless we can furnish a permanent residency proof. My brother stays at a rented accommodation in Pune. We have a lease document for the place.
Unfortunately his passport expired a few months ago and he does not have any other proof to suffice for permanent address.

I read the CMVR rules and it mentions that the lease document when attested is sufficient. But, the sales rep claims that the Pune RTO requires a permanent address proof as well.

Can someone please confirm whether it really is required and could suggest ways around this problem.

prasadka · 18th September 2009, 07:18

Hi
Do they accept airtel bills? If so, you could take an airtel connection in a couple of days!
Regards
Prasad

arishi1 · 18th September 2009, 09:46

I have the same issues in getting my Punto registered in Thane RTO. I have given the dealer Airtel Bills but he is saying RTO wants MTNL or BSNL bills. The options he is giving to me is

1. Get the Original Lease Agreement for the Rental Flat (its with the Landlord)
2. Get atleast the original Electricity, MTNL or BSNL bill
3. Go for WAP registration by paying another Rs.4500.

Any suggestions?

vdiatech · 18th September 2009, 11:37

I had similar problems. I moved to chennai and bought a house.
The house is my name and the RTO does not want to accept that as proof of residence ? They would accept rental documents but not house ownership documents ? strange...

I am with airtel ( very happy with their service ) , now i have also got a BSNL connection ( waste of money...!! grr ) just to have a proof of my residence !

anujmishra · 18th September 2009, 11:47

LOL!

I though how come holy Pandits are now responsible for registration of vehicles also they need permanent address proof (to do puja).

It seems Pandit predicted to have inauspicious event (registration) without some required formalities(address proof).

phamilyman · 18th September 2009, 12:32

You can get PSU bank account opened and on its proof, take the car delivery after its >1 month old. Best would be to ask parents of colleagues.

NetfreakBombay · 18th September 2009, 12:42

Or you can ask the showroom that you would be doing registration yourself.

Talk to any RTO agent. Usually RTO would accept an affidavit + Lease agreement after "persuasion" by RTO agent.

OTOH that would save 5 - 6k that dealers charge as registration charges (on top of actual road tax + RTO registration charges).

arishi1 · 18th September 2009, 12:46

but why PSU banks or BSNL, MTNL. Does this mean the Govt. is not confident on the address validation measures that Private Sector Banks & Telecom Operators do. Or this just a way for the RTO agents and brokers to mint more money out of the consumer? I really don't understand a Govt. Organization not accepting even a sale dead of a property as a valid proof of address.. Thats really amusing.....

MalluDude · 18th September 2009, 12:46

First I thought you might be referring to a temple pujari...!!!

But seriously, is your brother working somewhere in Pune? Ask him to get an employment certificate from his company on it's letterhead. That suffices in most places.

suren181 · 18th September 2009, 12:52

The front page of the Passport if IIRC contains just the photo, name and address right? Will a copy of that not suffice as address proof?

Edit: In 2002, while I was getting a car registered in my Bro's name in Hyderabad (for which he did not have an address proof) all we had to do was submit the electricity bill (which was in the name of the house owner) and an affidavit. You could try that avenue too.

NetfreakBombay · 18th September 2009, 12:54

An expired passport is not a valid address proof. (Ref : Post #1)

rishab.k · 18th September 2009, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by anujmishra

LOL!

I though how come holy Pandits are now responsible for registration of vehicles also they need permanent address proof (to do puja).

I was wondering the same.The title of this thread leaves you a bit confused.It should be changed to Pandit Auto or Pandit Motors ,whatever it is.

EssYouWe · 18th September 2009, 13:09

Apologies for the weirdly worded thread title. I did not want to make it too long.

Thanks a lot for the replies.

We do have a rent agreement. But Mr.Sachin Patil of Pandit Auto claims that the RTO requires a permanent address proof along with the rent agreement.

Someone in Pune who has recently bought a car might be able to throw light on wether this is required at all.

We also have landline bills from Tata Tele. We have also obtained a residence proof from his company's HR rep.

I do not understand why just a rent agreement does not suffice.

NetfreakBombay · 18th September 2009, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by EssYouWe

I do not understand why just a rent agreement does not suffice.

Only govt issues document are considered for address proof. However there is a provision of submitting a affidavit if such proof is not available.

If dealer is not willing to work with it, ask any RTO agent they will handle it (and save you money).

Another issues is, in Metro cities RTO has become more cautious and would not "easily" consider documents that can be faked easily (E.g. Gas connection papers / Utility bills).

EssYouWe · 20th September 2009, 02:41

Hi,

The sales guy called yesterday to confirm that most of the work is done. Because the RTO is closed we'll obtain the number latest by Tuesday evening.
He told us we can drive within Pune without the number plate for now. Is that true?
Afaik it isn't in Delhi. I do see a lot of A/F cars in Uttarakhand though.

Also what sort of receipt or confirmation of registration can I expect?

Last... Congrats to me

!! Finally the Punto is coming home! I am flying to Pune this Monday for the delivery.

17th September 2009, 20:26	#1
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	Pandit claims Registration impossible w/o permanent address proof Hi, My brother booked a Punto 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pk with Pandit Auto in the first week of the month and we had been promised delivery on the 21st. Now, the sales rep at Pandit says that the registration can not take place unless we can furnish a permanent residency proof. My brother stays at a rented accommodation in Pune. We have a lease document for the place. Unfortunately his passport expired a few months ago and he does not have any other proof to suffice for permanent address. I read the CMVR rules and it mentions that the lease document when attested is sufficient. But, the sales rep claims that the Pune RTO requires a permanent address proof as well. Can someone please confirm whether it really is required and could suggest ways around this problem.
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18th September 2009, 07:18	#2
prasadka BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 36 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Do they accept airtel bills? If so, you could take an airtel connection in a couple of days! Regards Prasad
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18th September 2009, 09:46	#3
arishi1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thane - Mumbai Posts: 305 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	I have the same issues in getting my Punto registered in Thane RTO. I have given the dealer Airtel Bills but he is saying RTO wants MTNL or BSNL bills. The options he is giving to me is 1. Get the Original Lease Agreement for the Rental Flat (its with the Landlord) 2. Get atleast the original Electricity, MTNL or BSNL bill 3. Go for WAP registration by paying another Rs.4500. Any suggestions?
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18th September 2009, 11:37	#4
vdiatech BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 414 Thanked: 10 Times	I had similar problems. I moved to chennai and bought a house. The house is my name and the RTO does not want to accept that as proof of residence ? They would accept rental documents but not house ownership documents ? strange... I am with airtel ( very happy with their service ) , now i have also got a BSNL connection ( waste of money...!! grr ) just to have a proof of my residence !
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18th September 2009, 11:47	#5
anujmishra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,293 Thanked: 529 Times View My Garage	LOL! I though how come holy Pandits are now responsible for registration of vehicles also they need permanent address proof (to do puja). It seems Pandit predicted to have inauspicious event (registration) without some required formalities(address proof).
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18th September 2009, 12:32	#6
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,673 Times	You can get PSU bank account opened and on its proof, take the car delivery after its >1 month old. Best would be to ask parents of colleagues.
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18th September 2009, 12:42	#7
NetfreakBombay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,481 Thanked: 1,128 Times	Or you can ask the showroom that you would be doing registration yourself. Talk to any RTO agent. Usually RTO would accept an affidavit + Lease agreement after "persuasion" by RTO agent. OTOH that would save 5 - 6k that dealers charge as registration charges (on top of actual road tax + RTO registration charges).
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18th September 2009, 12:46	#8
arishi1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thane - Mumbai Posts: 305 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	but why PSU banks or BSNL, MTNL. Does this mean the Govt. is not confident on the address validation measures that Private Sector Banks & Telecom Operators do. Or this just a way for the RTO agents and brokers to mint more money out of the consumer? I really don't understand a Govt. Organization not accepting even a sale dead of a property as a valid proof of address.. Thats really amusing.....
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18th September 2009, 12:46	#9
MalluDude BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kochi Posts: 398 Thanked: 78 Times View My Garage	First I thought you might be referring to a temple pujari...!!! But seriously, is your brother working somewhere in Pune? Ask him to get an employment certificate from his company on it's letterhead. That suffices in most places.
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18th September 2009, 12:52	#10
suren181 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 848 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	The front page of the Passport if IIRC contains just the photo, name and address right? Will a copy of that not suffice as address proof? Edit: In 2002, while I was getting a car registered in my Bro's name in Hyderabad (for which he did not have an address proof) all we had to do was submit the electricity bill (which was in the name of the house owner) and an affidavit. You could try that avenue too. Last edited by suren181 : 18th September 2009 at 12:54.
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18th September 2009, 12:54	#11
NetfreakBombay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,481 Thanked: 1,128 Times	An expired passport is not a valid address proof. (Ref : Post #1)
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18th September 2009, 13:09	#13
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	Apologies for the weirdly worded thread title. I did not want to make it too long. Thanks a lot for the replies. We do have a rent agreement. But Mr.Sachin Patil of Pandit Auto claims that the RTO requires a permanent address proof along with the rent agreement. Someone in Pune who has recently bought a car might be able to throw light on wether this is required at all. We also have landline bills from Tata Tele. We have also obtained a residence proof from his company's HR rep. I do not understand why just a rent agreement does not suffice.
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20th September 2009, 02:41	#15
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	Hi, The sales guy called yesterday to confirm that most of the work is done. Because the RTO is closed we'll obtain the number latest by Tuesday evening. He told us we can drive within Pune without the number plate for now. Is that true? Afaik it isn't in Delhi. I do see a lot of A/F cars in Uttarakhand though. Also what sort of receipt or confirmation of registration can I expect? Last... Congrats to me!! Finally the Punto is coming home! I am flying to Pune this Monday for the delivery.
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