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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5781286)
Shortlisted the Sony A7C with the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8
The idea is to have this be a two lens only setup where the Tamron would be on the body 95% of the time while travelling and we're out and about. We'd get a Sony 200-600 when we go out on Safari(once annually).

Thank you

To add on to this, finally bit the bullet and went with the Fuji XT-5 with a Sigma 30mm f1.4

Pricing on Fuji's lenses and the fact that they've opened the mount to third-party lens manufacturers really did sway the decision.

Main reasons for picking the Fuji system over the ever popular Sony system were:
I'm writing this follow up post in case someone is also finding themselves in the same predicament.

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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5790172)
More Reach for wildlife with APS-C: the 40MP sensor and the Fuji's 150-600mm which is a full frame equivalent of 900mm of reach gets us close to a distant subject and allows room to further crop due to the pixel density of a 40MP APS-C Sensor.
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I'm writing this follow up post in case someone is also finding themselves in the same predicament.

Congrats on the new buy. But some how I am not conninced on XT5 being a good body for wild life. Given you plan to connect a 600mm like glass, its going to be a huge lens. You will need to watch out on how to balance it.

I have the same body. But I bought it more for the compact dimensions. Its goes great with compact primes. And I must say it's an amazing combo. Especially the 18, 23 and 33mm f 1.4 Fuji lenses. Not to mention the color science that goes with it.

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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5790172)
Main reasons for picking the Fuji system over the ever popular Sony system were:
  • More Reach for wildlife with APS-C: the 40MP sensor and the Fuji's 150-600mm which is a full frame equivalent of 900mm of reach gets us close to a distant subject and allows room to further crop due to the pixel density of a 40MP APS-C Sensor.

What about AF though? Sony AF is a legend. For wildlife/BIF photography nothing comes close to Sony FF or APSC cameras owing to terrific AF.

For me Fuji always felt like a people photography camera than action/sports camera. Those cameras do look beautiful with a nice throwback to old school design. Very chic.

Hello All,
What are your thoughts and feedback, if any, on the new Nikon Z6III?

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Originally Posted by Karaboudjan (Post 5794227)
Hello All,
What are your thoughts and feedback, if any, on the new Nikon Z6III?

I don't own it but I fiddle around in the photography forums regularly. Full disclaimer: I am partial to Nikon (and Olympus but that's another story).

Here is my takeaway from early reviews/pre-production notes:

1. The new sensor has far better AF (v/s Z6 and Z6II) and far less rolling shutter effect.
2. Every passing generation, the Z6 has been pivoting towards more of a video camera than general purpose/photography camera and the Z6III builds upon it. It is an excellent videography camera.
3. Compared to Z8 which is supposedly the best Nikon MLC as far as AF speed is considered, Z6III does not appear to be far behind. The OG Z6's AF was rather poor, Z6II was good but the Z6III is leaps and bounds better.
4. You can't beat physics of lower res sensors. Compared to Z8, the 6III has better high ISO performance due to fewer MP sensor. However miniscule, it is there.
5. A lot will depend on quality of CFB cards but in general the camera hardware sounds pretty good as far as buffer clearance goes.
6. Subject recognition even in manual focus.
7. IBIS of up to 8.0 stops! Phenomenal. Personally IBIS is a very valuable feature. I have been spoilt by Olympus so I will be really curious to see how Nikon's 8 stop system fares against Olympus.

All in all, looks to me it is a very solid camera. As a Nikon fan I would love to own one. I also feel Nikon has some of the best ergonomics in business and this one is no exception.

However your use case will matter a lot. It appears that Z8 still has an edge if you do wildlife photography mainly because of ability to crop and slightly because of even faster sensor readout.
Personally even though I don't shoot videos I will still get this camera and use it as a general purpose photography camera. The 24mp sensor is really a sweet spot for me.

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Originally Posted by amol4184 (Post 5794407)
I don't own it but I fiddle around in the photography forums regularly. Full disclaimer: I am partial to Nikon (and Olympus but that's another story).

Here is my takeaway from early reviews/pre-production notes:

Dear Amol,
Thank you for the wonderful insights. I am in the market for a step up from my DSLR crop sensor to a full frame mirrorless camera. Was initially really tilting towards the Sony A7IV, but with the launch of the Z6III, I am again exploring options. Coming from a Nikon D5100, I would tilt more towards the Z6III.

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Originally Posted by Karaboudjan (Post 5794651)
I am in the market for a step up from my DSLR crop sensor to a full frame mirrorless camera. Coming from a Nikon D5100, I would tilt more towards the Z6III.

It would make sense to stay in the same ecosystem but don't write off Sony. Formidable AF and more MP than Z6III. You can't go wrong with either.

Compared to D5100, any modern MLC is going to be a massive upgrade. Exponentially better in every sense. Really, apart from the fact that both cameras take photos there is no other similarity. I'm assuming you have budgeted for good full frame lenses too. Nikon Z lenses are many and even the budget ones are top notch.

Hey everyone,

I'm looking to upgrade my 10-year-old D5200 and almost decided on the Z50. I'm just a hobbyist, and my use case is mainly family and travel photos.

The other options I've considered are the Canon R50 and Sony A6400, but I'm kind of inclined towards Nikon for the ergonomics. For instance, while I like the compactness of the A6400, the EVF position bothers me.

I don't have many lenses other than the kit lens and a 35mm prime lens. If I buy the Z50, I'd get the FTZ adaptor for the prime lens. However, that may not be a decision-maker because I could get the prime lens for any of these cameras for a little more.

I've been researching for a while and the only concern is that the Z50 is almost 5 years old now (so is the A6400), so I'm also wondering if I should wait for an updated model.

Thanks in advance, and I appreciate any suggestions.

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Originally Posted by ampere (Post 5792769)
Congrats on the new buy. But some how I am not conninced on XT5 being a good body for wild life. Given you plan to connect a 600mm like glass, its going to be a huge lens. You will need to watch out on how to balance it.

I have the same body. But I bought it more for the compact dimensions. Its goes great with compact primes. And I must say it's an amazing combo. Especially the 18, 23 and 33mm f 1.4 Fuji lenses. Not to mention the color science that goes with it.

The size/balance will be an issue. But a Monopod should suffice, I hope.

Currently loving it with the Sigma 30 1.4 and the Tamron 17-70 2.8, both give great results. The Tamron is significantly heavier, but the reach advantage is huge and makes it a jack of all trades lens.

Love the sigma as a walk around lens, no frills and sharp images.

Will pick up a super tele closer to the actual trip once it's confirmed.

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Originally Posted by amol4184 (Post 5793384)
What about AF though? Sony AF is a legend. For wildlife/BIF photography nothing comes close to Sony FF or APSC cameras owing to terrific AF.

For me Fuji always felt like a people photography camera than action/sports camera. Those cameras do look beautiful with a nice throwback to old school design. Very chic.

Focus so far hasn't been an issue. I like the joystick and have configured shortcut buttons for human and object detection AF. When I use these shortcuts, autofocus has always been bang on.

The lens also matters, the Sigma Prime for instance focuses faster than the Tamron zoom.

Will update back after a trip to the wild :D

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Originally Posted by robincsamuel (Post 5798212)
Hey everyone,

I'm looking to upgrade my 10-year-old D5200 and almost decided on the Z50. I'm just a hobbyist, and my use case is mainly family and travel photos.

The other options I've considered are the Canon R50 and Sony A6400, but I'm kind of inclined towards Nikon for the ergonomics.

Thanks in advance, and I appreciate any suggestions.

Consider a Fuji? I jumped from a D7000 to an X-T5. Loving it so far.

Pricing for the Nikon is fantastic at the moment, but for people and travel, I'd say it's hard to go wrong with the Fuji especially the colours. I don't believe Fuji has something that competes with the Z50 on price.

If between the Sony and the Nikon, I'd say go with the body with the newer and better AF algorithm and the mount that has more third party support.

All the best in your search!

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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5800137)
Love the sigma as a walk around lens, no frills and sharp images.

Will pick up a super tele closer to the actual trip once it's confirmed.

Fuji has a series of new 1.4 primes. 18, 23 and 33. All are stellar. You should give a try.

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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5790172)
Fuji XT-5 with a Sigma 30mm f1.4

Main reasons for picking the Fuji system over the ever-popular Sony system were:
  • Weight: Almost all the Fuji bodies with their APS-C lenses were lighter than Sony's with similar lenses.
  • Color Science: Straight-out-of-camera JPEGs from Fuji are something else compared to Sony's flat/dull look. Saves a lot of time post-processing. That's something we really wanted to avoid.
  • More Reach for wildlife with APS-C: the 40MP sensor and the Fuji's 150-600mm which is a full frame equivalent of 900mm of reach gets us close to a distant subject and allows room to further crop due to the pixel density of a 40MP APS-C Sensor.

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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5800147)
Pricing for the Nikon is fantastic at the moment, but for people and travel, I'd say it's hard to go wrong with the Fuji especially the colours.

About a year or so back (somewhere around April 2023) I switched from Canon to Fuji when I went mirrorless.

Reasons:
  1. I wanted to avoid FF to keep the system as light as possible (APS-C lenses are usually smaller and lighter).
  2. Based on the number of native lenses released, Canon and Sony seemed to be favouring their FF systems while Fuji didn't have FF, so they were focussed on APS-C
  3. Nikon's ZFc was pretty, but there were very few native APS-C available at the time.
  4. Canon RF lenses are expensive. Granted, they are FF, but I didn't need FF.
  5. Fuji's colour science was only second to Canon's, and I don't have time or inclination to post-process.

I ended up getting an X-S10 with a bunch of small primes (16 F2.8, 23 F2, 50 F2, and a Viltrox 75 F1.8) all of this fits neatly into a small crossbody bag (see link below).
https://www.vanguardworld.com/collec...-bag-navy-blue

My use case is primarily visiting museums and taking pictures of paintings. While security always targets my wife's larger handbag, I have never been asked to open my little camera bag. This is despite the fact that it is my wife who is known to the museum staff; I am just the "+1."

Sometimes I use the camera for family events. The same small bag happily accommodates the 18-55 F2.8-4 kit lens along with either the 10-24 F4 wide or the 55-200 F3.5-4.8 zoom

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Originally Posted by ballfry (Post 5800137)
Consider a Fuji? I jumped from a D7000 to an X-T5. Loving it so far.

Pricing for the Nikon is fantastic at the moment, but for people and travel, I'd say it's hard to go wrong with the Fuji especially the colours.

I came across the Fuji X-T30 II, but I'll have to stretch my budget. And yes, the Nikon Z50 pricing is attractive. About the Fuji colours, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they just like filters? Can't we do the same with some presets?

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If between the Sony and the Nikon, I'd say go with the body with the newer and better AF algorithm and the mount that has more third party support.
The main confusion I'm facing is that all these models were released around the same year. While the X-T30 II is a newer version, the core aspects like image quality, autofocus, ISO, etc., are almost the same as the 5-year-old X-T30, with mainly simulations and cosmetic updates.

I already have the Nikon 35mm f/1.8 prime lens, so getting the FTZ adapter would make it usable and support a wide range of F-mount lenses. I see the Nikon Z50 has a better dynamic range and ISO.

The Sony A6400 seems to have a superior AF system and a wide range of lenses, though it's the oldest product. The processor in the Sony A6400 is a decade old, whereas Nikon's Expeed 6 is newer. I read the EVF is also old-tech and is not as pleasing as the Z50.

I think the options I have within a 1 lakh budget are:

I’m open to other suggestions as well :)

Thanks!

Any one has any experience with Tamron 28-200 F2.8-5.6 ? It seems okayish in terms of price. I currently have the Sony A7 IV with the Sony kit lens (28-70). For some time this summer, the photography hobby went on a backburner because of too much work. But now, I want to take it up anew. I am thinking of exchanging the kit lens with the Tamron 28-200.

Its good but bit heavy. My brother got it
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Originally Posted by fhdowntheline (Post 5810673)
Any one has any experience with Tamron 28-200 F2.8-5.6 ? It seems okayish in terms of price. I currently have the Sony A7 IV with the Sony kit lens (28-70). For some time this summer, the photography hobby went on a backburner because of too much work. But now, I want to take it up anew. I am thinking of exchanging the kit lens with the Tamron 28-200.


Finally bit the bullet and purchased the Sony A7IV. Loving the features, ergonomics and the design of the camera. It is leaps and bounds in quality and features, coming from a 14 year old D5100. Got the kit lens as of now. Will plan to get a good prime lens once I am familiar with the operations and have my hands set on the device. Thanks to the community for guiding me in the decision making process.


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