[h@r$h@l]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Well, when I said successor for Defy, I obviously meant same price range and ergonomics, but with better specs under the hood.

Hi Samurai,

Since you are looking for a Defy replacement and in same price range and ergonomics and better specs; you may want to consider SONY XPERIA GO.

Key Features
3.5-inch TFT Capacitive Touchscreen
Android v2.3 (Gingerbread) OS
1 GHz ARM Cortex-A9 Dual Core Processor
5 MP Primary Camera
Water and Dust Resistance
Wi-Fi Enabled
Expandable Storage Capacity of 32 GB

Its priced at ₹14490/- on FlipKart.

Below is the comparison between Motorola Defy & Xperia GO.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=4782

The only negatives as i see in Xperia GO are
1. Non-removable Li-Ion 1305 mAh battery vs Li-Po 1540 mAh battery [MOTOROLA DEFY]
2. 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches (~165 ppi pixel density) vs 480 x 854 pixels, 3.7 inches (~265 ppi pixel density) [MOTOROLA DEFY]
Regards,

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by bhp_maniac

Here you go

1) Around 30-40 mins of voice call
2) Exchange sync, Gmail sync (Priority inbox) on for day time (I have Llama toggle it when am home from 10PM to 6AM)
3) Around 1hr of screen time
4) BT is always OFF
5) GPS for my walking session in the evening, for an hour with Endomondo application
6) Screen timeout at 30 sec with automatic brightness.
7) Whatsapp for may be half hour most.

With this usage pattern, I use to get an average of 1-1.5 days on Defy. Means I take it off charger around 8.30AM in the morning, it can go till the next day evening. The overnight drain is less than 2-3% which is contributing a lot.
However, not using this one as my daily driver anymore. On a Note 2 for the past couple weeks and I think I'll be on it for coming few months at least

Between, hows your 3G signal level? Fortunately I have more than 18asu all the time at my home and my workplace. I know this one drains like anything when you're in a low signal area. For e.g. I've ran out of juice while in cinema.

I get between 16-19 asu. How does that translate into battery drain? I mean is there an equation?

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by h@r$h@l

2. 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches (~165 ppi pixel density) vs 480 x 854 pixels, 3.7 inches (~265 ppi pixel density) [MOTOROLA DEFY]

Long time back I considered and rejected the Go based on the screen resolution. I can't go back from 480x854 to 320x480.

[driving_smartly]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Long time back I considered and rejected the Go based on the screen resolution. I can't go back from 480x854 to 320x480.

@ Samurai
How about Samsung Galaxy S Duos S7562 ?

Features

TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors

Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)

Android OS, v4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1 (Jelly Bean)

Chipset:Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon

CPU:1 GHz Cortex-A5

GPU:Adreno 200

Sensors:Accelerometer, proximity, compass

Retails for 12900/- on flipkart

[phamilyman]

Originally Posted by driving_smartly

@ Samurai
How about Samsung Galaxy S Duos S7562 ?

The GPU and screen is worse than defy!!

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by driving_smartly

@ Samurai
How about Samsung Galaxy S Duos S7562 ?

Originally Posted by phamilyman

The GPU and screen is worse than defy!!

Exactly!

Guys, please compare carefully with Defy before suggesting a successor. I have done extensive search since 6 months before posting here in frustration. Defy was ahead of its time when it came out in 2010. Now in 2013 I am struggling to find a suitable successor. None of the suggestions so far have overall better package than Defy, within 20k budget or 4 inch screen. I'll probably stick with Defy for another year or look at WP8.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Exactly!

Guys, please compare carefully with Defy before suggesting a successor. I have done extensive search since 6 months before posting here in frustration. Defy was ahead of its time when it came out in 2010. Now in 2013 I am struggling to find a suitable successor. None of the suggestions so far have overall better package than Defy, within 20k budget or 4 inch screen. I'll probably stick with Defy for another year or look at WP8.

Samu, Is your 4" screen requirement a hard stop? If you can stretch to 4.3" and increase the budget by 2-3K then wait for the S2 Plus. Quite decent specs.

http://tech2.in.com/features/smartph...-review/750552

Alternatively even the current S2 with the Exynos processor (I9100) not the I9100G (TI OMAP) is a decent option. Samsung has just released 4.1.2 JB for these versions and they are very mod friendly for custom ROMs.

[amitk26]

Originally Posted by bhp_maniac

It may not be possible as Note 2 is running Jellybean with no USB mass storage support out of the box. As an alternative you can try through BT streaming if your Pioneer supports it. Aux In is another option, but won't be that good in terms of sound quality as digital streaming.

Originally Posted by raghav.carfreak

Hey guys, tried connecting my samsung galaxy note2 to my pioneer stereo through USB, it says incompatible USB, any idea how to fix this?

Try connecting it after

Settings-> Developer Options ( turn the switch to green) -> Check the USB debugging box

[phamilyman]

even the MSM7227A processor is the budget processor GPU combination which has now been overclocked to 1 Ghz. Kinda like a bajaj chetak inside a pulsar 220 skin. Meh.

Samurai dada - why not the WP8? or a blackberry?

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

Samu, Is your 4" screen requirement a hard stop? If you can stretch to 4.3" and increase the budget by 2-3K then wait for the S2 Plus. Quite decent specs.

Ok, I can stretch that much.

Originally Posted by phamilyman

even the MSM7227A processor is the budget processor GPU combination which has now been overclocked to 1 Ghz. Kinda like a bajaj chetak inside a pulsar 220 skin. Meh.

Hmm, I don't need the fastest out there. Don't expect it in my price range.

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Samurai dada - why not the WP8? or a blackberry?

I am keeping WP8 option open, waiting for Nokia 620 to release, so that I can compare with 8S.

[PPS]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Anybody with first hand experience with Samsung I8190 Galaxy S III mini ? I don't like phones with screen bigger than 4 inch.

S III mini is available in the grey market & the official launch is expected soon as per the below report.

http://tech2.in.com/features/smartph...ii-mini/752942

[BoneCollector]

Hi guys,I've just finished updating my Samsung Galaxy S2 with an OTA update of 19.86MB. I got a msg saying that I needed to upgrade it for better stability. I have no idea what all has changed but will see and post in a couple of days.I'm on 4.0.4.I updated using Wifi connectivity without connecting it to my laptop or Kies.

[blue_pulsar]

Originally Posted by BoneCollector

Hi guys,I've just finished updating my Samsung Galaxy S2 with an OTA update of 19.86MB. I got a msg saying that I needed to upgrade it for better stability. I have no idea what all has changed but will see and post in a couple of days.I'm on 4.0.4.I updated using Wifi connectivity without connecting it to my laptop or Kies.

Same here. I don't find any difference till now though. Was really hoping for the 4.1. Any idea on when it might come out? We did hear some rumors.

[bhp_maniac]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

I get between 16-19 asu. How does that translate into battery drain? I mean is there an equation?

Yes of course. Low asu means low signal level from cell tower and hence phone has to transmit in a higher power state which means higher battery drain. Is it always locking to the max of 19 asu? I had that issue before but with the JB leak, my signal strength is most of the time around 24-25 asu. Between, 16-19asu seems like good signal strength if not the best.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

What is your usage pattern? I barely get past 12-15 hrs on Defy on the same ROM if 3G is on all throughout.

Um... this should look refreshing then. 42% battery after 22hours.