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Old 23rd September 2020, 21:41   #2026
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Re: On Wi-Fi & Routers

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If you are seeing a change in speed, it is more likely due to some interference that was introduced as part of the cable swap exercise.
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Have you checked with ACT if they have upgraded your plan in the backend?
I think they have finally updated what they said they have to. I'm getting good speeds now, although it drops down very low occasionally.
I shall attach results.

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You should call up ACT and show them this picture. If you are contracting for 100 Mbps and this is what they are delivering, raise hell.
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The correct test is to do it via ethernet cable or if your router has a built in speed test. If you use 2.4Ghz band usually you will see the speed in the range of 40-60Mbps.
I am 6 feet from my gaming router and have a 200Mbps connection and this is the result around 80Mbps. .
I was shocked to see how bad my WiFi network speeds are. I knew that I will have a drop, but not down to 25% of the speed at the router. Here's my speed despite gettin close to 90Mbps at router. This is within six feet of my DIR615 Old gen.
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Try using google DNS service. (Google, of course, for IP address)

You typically have to tell your router / modem to use this. Try looking for "Use custom DNS" or similar option in modem settings.
I configure my DNS in the router settings itself. I keep switching between google and 1.1.1.1.
I feel vulnerable and don't like google's DNS for they record my visits. But I appreciate it's speed.

Whereas 1.1.1.1 might be marginally slower, But they promise not to store any data after a week. They delete everything.

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Cloudflare (1.1.1.1) is slightly worse off than Google when queried from Asia.

I maintain a list of public DNS servers here, btw:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...RTpfXNFTSYTAw/

In my home we mostly use Adguard Family Protection, because with online classes even my 9 year old daughter is on the Internet unsupervised for some part of the day.
Thanks for this doc.
Does the adguard DNS mean I won't get ads on my devices?
Youtube has been throwing up errors when I'm using youtube Adblock, and several sites keep blocking my access. Although I actively turn off Adblock to support a few sites, I leave it on for some, which is giving me trouble.


Here are my speed tests.
Directly plugging in my internet cable(no router in the middle)
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Connected via ethernet from router
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and these are for the wifi tests. First two are from within six feet of the wifi router.
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THe last is from my bedroom which is just behind the wall on which the router rests against.
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Could you suggest a router for my 1600sqft home , the router sits almost in the middle only.
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Old 27th September 2020, 13:09   #2027
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Re: On Wi-Fi & Routers

Can anyone comment on whether a high priced router would outperform normal ISP routers in coverage and speed? I am currently using Jiofiber router which has good range in both 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz and I get maximum 470Mbps via WiFi when I am close to it. Around 30 feet away in another room I get around 275. On 2.4Ghz I get around 90 to 100 around the house. However there is one room where we spend a lot of time and the signal and speed fluctuate there even though it is just 30 feet away from the router. Sometimes I can get near 200 while other times it is just 30 and often as low as just 3Mbps. I am considering either getting a mesh system like the Orbi or simply a more powerful router. Would a single Netgear Orbi or TP Link Deco, without satellites, improve the coverage and speed as they have more antennae and are specialised devices? Otherwise I could consider something like Xiaomi AX3600 which would have to via AliExpress.
https://www.mi.com/global/mi-aiot-router-ax3600/

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: On Wi-Fi & Routers

Can someone guide me with this. Our farm house first floor has pathetic wifi coverage, I am planning to connect an ethernet cable from our OFC modem (GPON) to another wifi router kept on the first floor and configure. Will this plan work, any suggestions please? Also, I have a ADSL modem lying idle, this does not have a WAN port (internet source) but only LAN ports 1-4. My question is, can i use the ADSL wifi router as incoming wired source from OFC modem and configure the ADSL wifi router (without a WAN port), as a repeater?

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Can anyone comment on whether a high priced router would outperform normal ISP routers in coverage and speed? I am currently using Jiofiber router which has good range in both 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz and I get maximum 470Mbps via WiFi when I am close to it. Around 30 feet away in another room I get around 275. On 2.4Ghz I get around 90 to 100 around the house. However there is one room where we spend a lot of time and the signal and speed fluctuate there even though it is just 30 feet away from the router. Sometimes I can get near 200 while other times it is just 30 and often as low as just 3Mbps. I am considering either getting a mesh system like the Orbi or simply a more powerful router. Would a single Netgear Orbi or TP Link Deco, without satellites, improve the coverage and speed as they have more antennae and are specialised devices? Otherwise I could consider something like Xiaomi AX3600 which would have to via AliExpress.
https://www.mi.com/global/mi-aiot-router-ax3600/

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Typically ISP provided equipment is quite basic. Though I don't have one, my friends house has a MESH system (TP Link Deco 4) and the coverage is good.
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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I have two decent routers at diagonal ends of a duplex independent house, both from Netgear - R7000 and XR450. I have a third N300 Asus router for some smart devices in a service room on the first floor. I still have areas of poor signal in some rooms due to the walls in between. I suggest you to get an additional router for the other end of your house and connect the two routers via ethernet. You can get a mesh system too, but i find it cheaper and reliable to use commodity routers as additional access points to widen coverage.
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I have two decent routers at diagonal ends of a duplex independent house, both from Netgear - R7000 and XR450. I have a third N300 Asus router for some smart devices in a service room on the first floor. I still have areas of poor signal in some rooms due to the walls in between. I suggest you to get an additional router for the other end of your house and connect the two routers via ethernet. You can get a mesh system too, but i find it cheaper and reliable to use commodity routers as additional access points to widen coverage.
Just a word of caution if you are using VoWiFi. This was the set up I was using in in my 2 storeyed home, one router on the first floor and a second one on the ground floor. Until recently I learned that VoWiFi cellular calls are failing with this set up, might be during the switching between two routers. I changed to a single router set up and the calls are fine now. Now contemplating several options of the coverage issue.
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I've been using the rather expensive Netgear Orbi RBK50 for 3 months now. Coverage, features and UI are excellent. What's annoying is its ACL feature. I haven't enabled it, yet, it goes about blocking legit logins. Tried a reset as well. Known issue apparently. Past return date so stuck with it
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Until recently I learned that VoWiFi cellular calls are failing with this set up, might be during the switching between two routers.
My ssids are different across my three routers at home today. I switch manually to the closest ssid when i move to different areas of my house and have not turned on the auto wifi selection on my phone.
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Re: On Wi-Fi & Routers

I recently got the Asus RT AC59U router since my fiber modem/router had only one gigabit ethernet port. To my surprise it was a V2 model and it supported their Mesh feature!

So well, got one more of the same and for 10k have meshed up my house and am happy

The setup was so easy with their phone app.
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Re: On Wi-Fi & Routers

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I am currently using Jiofiber router which has good range in both 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz and I get maximum 470Mbps via WiFi when I am close to it. Around 30 feet away in another room I get around 275. On 2.4Ghz I get around 90 to 100 around the house. However there is one room where we spend a lot of time and the signal and speed fluctuate there even though it is just 30 feet away from the router.
Jio hardware is of good quality. If you need to improve the coverage, you can either go for a wifi-mesh like this

https://store.google.com/product/nes...wifi_first_gen

Or, get the Ethernet cable nearest to the room where you have blind spots. But you may have to switch over to the different networks manually.
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If anyone has an idea, My current wifi router is the DLINK DIR 615 old model with two antennas. A lot of act fibernet users were sold these by ACT. This router just about covers my entire 1600sqft home since it sits smack in the middle.

Could someone please suggest worthy upgrades within 5000 rupees to improve coverage and speeds. I am trying to achieve 200Mbps plus link speeds over wifi in the same room , and at least 60 Mbps on the other side of a concrete wall. 5 metres away. Can someone suggest??

We were really fed up with ACT fibernet's service for a while and after running a few tests I figured out that the wifi router is the problem.

I ran ethernet cables to mine and my brothers rooms and the tv in the hall
Since the wifi was dead slow even while standing next to it, the ethernet runs made a ton of difference. I'm averaging 90Mbps on all wired devices and around 30Mbps on portable devices in the same room.

I bought rj45 jacks from amazon, a couple of those red rubber boots and since my grandfather had a crimping cutting tool in his toolkit, I made my own cables.

I let some leeway in the wire and now I'm sitting on my bed happily browsing away at crazy speeds.
Would implore everyone to reduce usage of wifi as much as possible and run ethernet cables to stationary devices like TVs desktops and desks where laptops are used,

We pay for Netflix full HD but rarely get such clarity due to the bad wifi. Now my parents drag the long cable till their room for movies

The tools are really cheap and the experience is amazing!

this is over 2 pair (4 cables only) cat 5e cables. I'm pretty sure it can go over 100mbps if my plan was faster.

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I am planning to connect an ethernet cable from our OFC modem (GPON) to another wifi router kept on the first floor and configure. Will this plan work, any suggestions please?
this will definitely work, and I would suggest this only.

I was fed up with the bad internet coverage in our house and bought some network tools like some rj45 jacks and wire boots and made my own cables and runs around the house.
  • Now I know where and how all the electrical/networking conduits in my apartment and building are
  • Faster internet for everyone
  • Less interference for mobiles and tablets due to less wifi usage by laptops, TVs etc which have a LAN port
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Also, I have a ADSL modem lying idle, this does not have a WAN port (internet source) but only LAN ports 1-4. My question is, can i use the ADSL wifi router as incoming wired source from OFC modem and configure the ADSL wifi router (without a WAN port), as a repeater?
This depends on the router.
I have a pretty basic digisol ADSL wifi router that dad used in his single room accomodation on posting for wifi from BSNL.

even that router supported wifi in bridged mode, and able to give a second wifi network with internet using the no.1LAN port as an input/internet signal cable.

I connected my main router to the no 1 port of this adsl router and it worked just fine.

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Also, does your router has gigabit ports? If you have >100 mbps plan then you need to get a router that has gigabit ports.
Isn't gigabit 1000mbps? I was under the assumption that I wouldn't need one until I had a plan that went up till a 1000+ mbps.
but i've recently learnt to respect the law of diminishing returns. Lots of headroom is good even if you won't theoretically need it.

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this is over 2 pair (4 cables only) cat 5e cables. I'm pretty sure it can go over 100mbps if my plan was faster.
Cat 5e i think requires 4 pairs for gigabit speeds. I suggest you connect the ethernet cables you have drawn to your two other rooms to good dual band routers. The 5 Ghz band will give you good speeds on wifi. You need a gigabit router modem as the main router in your house so that you get more than 100Mbps speeds in the other rooms once you take a higher speed connection.
I have four routers at home with three being access point DHCP forwarders. Two are cheaper 10+ year old N routers and the other two more recent dual band routers Nighthawk R7000 AC1900 and Nighthawk XR450 AC2400. We connect manually to the closest router for a better streaming or work experience.
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Cat 5e i think requires 4 pairs for gigabit speeds.
I was under the same impression until I learned that of the 8 wires, only 4 are used for data transfer and the other 4 are used for auxiliary functions such as power over ethernet.
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I suggest you connect the ethernet cables you have drawn to your two other rooms to good dual band routers.
That would be messy and uneconomical for my house, although the sq, footage is relatively large, the layout is such that one centrally placed router will get the job done. My old dual antenna 2.4 ghz 1600rupees router covers the whole house, but with terrible speeds.
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You need a gigabit router modem as the main router in your house so that you get more than 100Mbps speeds in the other rooms once you take a higher speed connection.
isn't gigabit useful only above 1000mbps? the wifi routers which are not gigabit are capable of supporting more that 100 mbps.
for eg n300 routers claim 300mbps. but we all know how that is
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isn't gigabit useful only above 1000mbps?
If you dont have a gigabit router/switch, your ethernet cable will only receive a max of 100Mbps bandwidth, though you may have a faster plan from your ISP.
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Could someone please suggest worthy upgrades within 5000 rupees to improve coverage and speeds. I am trying to achieve 200Mbps plus link speeds over wifi in the same room , and at least 60 Mbps on the other side of a concrete wall. 5 metres away. Can someone suggest??


Isn't gigabit 1000mbps? I was under the assumption that I wouldn't need one until I had a plan that went up till a 1000+ mbps.
The speed 100 mbps or 1 Gbps refer to "ceiling" of the WAN and LAN port of the router and not the "floor". So your 100 mbps router cannot support 200 mbps connection from the ISP.

I have an apartment similar to yours in size. Have been doing testing with various locations, antenna orientation etc. For a very high speed over wifi, we need to use 5ghz only. Contrary to what internet says about 1600 sqft home needing a medium category router, the Indian construction adds another dimension of concrete walls. All those articles mostly refer to western apartments when they say 1 centrally placed good router would be enough as they have mostly wooden construction of inside walls.

For our concrete walls, based on my crude tests, I feel the centrally placed router does not give very high throughput or signal quality through concrete walls. I am using Wifi Analyzer app to measure strength but beyond concrete walls, even 5 to 6 feet away, the signal drops to less than -70dB. For streaming videos, you need to have consistent -67dB or higher. Even in the same room, if the distance is 15 ft plus, the 5 Ghz strength drops considerably but if LoS is there, it is able to stream videos.

So if you expect good quality signals, I think a mesh setup would be required but they are not available in 5k price band.
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