[ampere]

Originally Posted by Prowler

You would be better off without installing Symantec in your Mac. It will slow down your system for no additional benefit.

Mac does have security issues. I understand its a BSD kernel. But there have been loopholes in MAC too. However since penetration of Windows is so high, there aren't much malware written for MAC.

PS : Even I am on MAC (as I type this) and I don't have any AV installed.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by ampere

Mac does have security issues. I understand its a BSD kernel. But there have been loopholes in MAC too. However since penetration of Windows is so high, there aren't much malware written for MAC.

PS : Even I am on MAC (as I type this) and I don't have any AV installed.

Macs do have some security in built. I rely on that and don't use any AV too. Though, the posted image is not from my system, but I have come across this warning on my system once.
The only issue can be that while Macs themselves cannot be infected with windows malware, but they can be 'potential carriers' & 'spreaders' of the malware to other computers.

Link: http://www.intego.com/mac-security-b...-an-antivirus/

[tilt]

Originally Posted by Prowler

*SNIP* One more thing about upgrading applications. If it is from Apple, the old version will still remain in the app directory. You can run the old version if you so desire.

Prowler, that's true only for the iWork applications (Pages, Numbers & Keynote), Garageband and iMovie. The other Apple applications (Mail, iTunes, iPhoto, FaceTime, Messages, etc.) do get overwritten.

However, that point is not relevant in this particular context, so Aasish & Libranof1987 need not be concerned about this.

Cheers

[libranof1987]

Moral of the story: I don't have to bother getting an AV :P

[plimsollmark]

Hi ! Have recently bought a 27" iMac and wanted to know from the existing users whether a UPS and/or surge protector is required/recommended. Any brands that are recommended ?

Tried a basic search but didn't find this information.

Thanks.

[tilt]

Plimsollmark, congratulations on your purchase.

UPS and surge protector requirements depend on where you live and what you use your computer for.

While I was living in Canada, I never had either, but now that I have moved to India, I certainly will have a surge protector.

I am not buying a UPS because my apartment has an inverter, which will let me keep my Mac on for the few minutes I need to save my work.

If you use your Mac for critical work, some kind of backup power (either a UPS for the Mac or an inverter for the house) is advisable.

Cheer

[plimsollmark]

Originally Posted by tilt

Plimsollmark, congratulations on your purchase.

UPS and surge protector requirements depend on where you live and what you use your computer for.

If you use your Mac for critical work, some kind of backup power (either a UPS for the Mac or an inverter for the house) is advisable.

Cheer

Thanks tilt. We already have an inverter but am quite concerned of the power surges that we're occasionally in he side of Poona I live in, guess a good surge protector is called for.

Not going to be using for any critical work but the usual.

Cheers.

[ampere]

Originally Posted by plimsollmark

Thanks tilt. We already have an inverter but am quite concerned of the power surges that we're occasionally in he side of Poona I live in, guess a good surge protector is called for.

I use an APC back-up and surge protector. It helps not just the MAC but also keeps modem on, during the change over period from the power on to Back-up generator. I dont have an inverter. This has been working fine for me. Please check the power rating requirements before you buy one.

[sandeepmohan]

Originally Posted by khoj

I have a 15" MBPro and the thing had gone kaput a couple of months ago. At that time the logic board was replaced.

What went kaput? I think your generation of the mac book pro had integrated graphics combined with dedicated amd graphics. There is a known problem with the dedicated graphics card going for a toss due to poor solder quality on the logic board. Those who took Apple Care extended warranty are a little safe as they got their logic boards replaced free of cost.

I would not run any kind of system resource optimizer tools on a mac. The operating system by itself is good at taking care of these things.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...=5595&tstart=0

Re installing the operating system should fix things. I don't think your logic board is at fault.

[Live To Jive]

Originally Posted by Live To Jive

Dosen't Linux offer everything (or more) that Mac offers, that too for free? As for windows I stopped using it many years ago.

The above quote to remind you that I'm a Windows hater (hopefully that's good enough for Mac fans to help me out here), but I'm no fan of Mac either as I'm absolutely satisfied with Ubuntu. I'm posting on behalf of a good friend who also happens to be an Ubuntu user. Now his work demands that he uses MS Office and particularly Outlook. He also uses Android & Blackberry phones. Now his requirements for a Laptop are:
1. Good quality hardware (which I must admit with a heavy heart, Apple does provide).
2. Light weight.
3. Stable OS (like Ubuntu).
4. MS Office (I think it's available for Mac) or equivalent Mac Office suite that does everything that MS Office does. Particularly can outlook contacts be used in the Mac e-mail client and without loosing the contact pictures and can the contacts be easily synced with both the phones. Also can the mails be read offline.
5. Should be able to use torrents. He loves downloading Movies & Music.
6. Should be able to transfer music to and from the phones without using iTunes.
7. Being able to do everything Windows or Linux does (yea I heard you, Mac can do it and much better than Windows or Linux) but without going round and round the Mulberry bush.
8. A laptop that will last at least 5 years without having to upgrade hardware or that will need to be taken to the service center every few months.

What he does not need:
1. The ultimate processor, RAM etc that is capable of launching a missile.
2. Having to explain to every person he meets that his laptop has ABC hardware and XYZ software and that it is the ultimate and that everyone should buy it.
3. Software / Hardware for professional photography or graphics.
4. Ultimate security (nice to have but he's not doing Multi-Million Dollar transactions on his laptop).

Going by his requirements I felt that he could do with a Mac. The question is "Which one"? He does not have a fixed budget but would not like to spend too much on features that he doesn't need. Next is where to buy it. He travels to the US at least twice a year.

For the Mac haters, is there something else you can recomend that will meet his requirements?

[ampere]

Originally Posted by Live To Jive

For the Mac haters, is there something else you can recomend that will meet his requirements?

The question is not what Linux cannot give you which Apple can. The question is if you can get the same unix kernel based product it out of the box. And add to it support for Licensed S/W (like Office, Photoshop etc)

The other point you have to note is that the display cost of Apple Laptops take their pricing quite high (This is for Mac Pros). What all that in consideration, I would say go with the 13 inch Air.

[Live To Jive]

Originally Posted by ampere

What all that in consideration, I would say go with the 13 inch Air.

And what specs would you recomend?

[ampere]

Originally Posted by Live To Jive

And what specs would you recomend?

If he only needs a lap top sans all the speed, the basic 128GB flash based system would just do fine. Other point is if he needs 11 inch or 13 inch display. You can optimise based on that too. For example take the best case 11inch as against a lower specced 13 inch.

[vb-saan]

Originally Posted by ampere

If he only needs a lap top sans all the speed, the basic 128GB flash based system would just do fine. Other point is if he needs 11 inch or 13 inch display. You can optimise based on that too. For example take the best case 11inch as against a lower specced 13 inch.

I agree, I recently got a 11" Macbook Air (128GB, 1.4 GHz Intel i5). Really loving it, and its better now because the new 1.4 GHz model is actually cheaper than the earlier 1.3 model.

[ampere]

Originally Posted by vb-san

I agree, I recently got a 11" Macbook Air (128GB, 1.4 GHz Intel i5). Really loving it, and its better now because the new 1.4 GHz model is actually cheaper than the earlier 1.3 model.

Esp after they reduced the price by 100$, the entry level Air is a perfect bargain. As it now starts at 899.