The Mobile Phone Thread - Queries, decisions, discussions all here

harry10 · 2nd December 2010, 01:58

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Originally Posted by kpzen

May i confuse you more

HTC DESIRE

Phone is not for me and desire has been omitted already!

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Originally Posted by Cesc

I would say pick the N8 only if photography is top of your list. N8 has an excellent camera but Galaxy S is better otherwise. I used both and found the Galaxy S has a better screen, is faster and has better touch response - at least I found the response equivalent to the iphone.

Galaxy S is a bit costlier though (23k for N8 as compared to around 26k for the Galaxy S).

Well galaxy has a 5mp camera and judging from my previous n95 8gb 5mp camera i guess galaxy must click decent pics as well.
So if we disregard the camera is galaxy S the better buy in other regards?

navin · 2nd December 2010, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Cesc

@navin - IMO touch phones (with split screens with a full qwerty keypad while SMSing) are better than hard keys once you get used to them

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Originally Posted by silversteed

@navin:
I'm yet to see a Nokia phone beat a Sony Ericsson in the Camera department...I'd suggest the Vivaz Pro or Aino.

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Originally Posted by SRK

But I feel your wife would love to use the iPhone4. Easy and simple for her requirements.

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Originally Posted by harry10

How much responsive is the touch in N8.

Well this is the plan. I do like that the N8 switches between a numeric keypad and QWERTY as it goes from portait to landscape.

We are going to test the N8, iPhone4 and the best QWERTY phone we can get.

Which phone would you guys recommend if a tactile QWERTY keyboard was a requirement. BB Torch? Sony Vivaz Pro? Just one. We already have 2 phones (N8, iPhone4) shortlisted, more than 3 would lead to confusion.

iPhone 4 is only shortlisted becuase the number of recomendations we have got for this phone. The N8 for it's camera, and now we need a phone that will offer fast SMS typing via a tactile keyboard just in case touch phones do NOT find favour.

Thanks everyone.

raj_5004 · 2nd December 2010, 10:38

Sony Vivaz Pro has a Symbian OS.

Also, look at the Xperia X10 Mini Pro, costs 16k. Its small, compact & lightweight, ideal for your wife & now comes with Android 2.1 OS, outdated compared to Froyo in Smasung but it would not matter much to your wife.

Sad part is it only has a 5MP cam.

navin · 2nd December 2010, 12:51

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

Sony Vivaz Pro has a Symbian OS.
Also, look at the Xperia X10 Mini Pro with Android 2.1 OS
Sad part is it only has a 5MP cam.

The N8 camera is good NOT because it has 10 or 12MP but because it has a CCD sensor that is much larger than those in other mobile phones and a decent lens to complement this sensor.

Does the Sony Vivaz, Xperia or any other phone have a better tactile keyboard than the BB Torch (which is what I use)?

raj_5004 · 2nd December 2010, 13:12

I have not used the torch so i frankly cannot compare the SEs with it. I have used the X10 mini & it's QWERTY is good enough for messaging.

Sn1p3r · 2nd December 2010, 16:11

Navin, I speak from experience. I have tested the N8 extensively and also using apple iPod touch {experience example for keyboard}, earlier an iPhone 3G user.

Camera as you say is good but it will never be used for dedicated photoshoot. N8 has much going for it but the sheer joy you experience with iPhone can not be replicated. N8's interface to me looked half baked. It is not responsive once multiple apps are running. iPhone {iPod} is better in this regard.

I have not tested any of the Android stuff so wont comment. I am sure rave reviews of Samsung Galaxy S and latest variants make a good case against the iPhone. However, living with one is the main point and I love my iPhone and iPad.

Cheers!

Guys, help me decide on a great finish simple [dumb] phone.

Thad E Ginathom · 2nd December 2010, 16:52

My wife has just been given an E71. It is unbelievably solid compared to my N82, that it is hard to believe that it is made by the same company --- and, apparently, internal structure and politics in Nokia did make the E division pretty much separate to the N division.

It feels good, it is well made, it has heaps of quality, and I could probably get used to the tiny, tiny qwerty keys (with reading glasses on, of course) but, the trouble is, its priorities are just not what either of us wants in a phone.

navin · 2nd December 2010, 17:02

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Originally Posted by Sn1p3r

N8 has much going for it but the sheer joy you experience with iPhone can not be replicated. N8's interface to me looked half baked. It is not responsive once multiple apps are running. iPhone {iPod} is better in this regard.

My wife wont run more than 1 application at a time. She has 3 uses: SMS, camera and voice. She has yet to get an email address (not even a free yahoo/hotmail/gmail one).

zoom2_ash · 2nd December 2010, 18:13

[quote=harry10;2155789]After a quick reserach found these 4-
1.-samsung star 3g 5603
2.-samsung s7070 diva
3.-sony xperia x10mini
4.-Samsung Monte
Thank you kpzen- added Samsung Monte also in the list.]

I would suggest you to check our Galaxy 5. It costs Rs 8500 and i must say that this the best phone availble under Rs10000. Its an android2.1. Really fast, excellent capacitive touch screen. Resolution is less but then its good for its price range. It has all the features like 3g, wi fi, GPS, bluetooth, good audio quality, reasonable 2MP camera and the phone is very responsive. I am using this phone from last 3 months or so and downloaded many apps from the market but the response of the phone is still very good. So, check this out and buy it if you like the looks.

Ram · 2nd December 2010, 18:21

My use of my Nokia N8 device (in order of priority) is

to make and receive audio calls
to send and receive SMS text messages. I use Swype to enter text.
to shoot close-up macro shots 10 cm away from the subject item. The five-element Carl Zeiss Tessar lens and Xenon flash is invaluable for this.
turn-by-turn voice guided GPS navigation.
to shoot portraits and long-on landscapes.
to shoot full-motion video with stereo sound and watch it on an HD TV using the provided HDMI cable and shows 720p video. Also Dolby Digital Plus sound to the home-theater.
to watch DivX movies while travelling long-distance.
to transmit my music from the N8 over FM 99.00 MHz
to my car FM stereo and listen while driving.

Which phone from any manufacturer does all this?
(and that too for under Rs. 24,000)
The N8 has a rugged aluminium-alloy monocoque body.

I am totally delighted with my 36-day old Tangerine Orange Nokia N8.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadget...ml#post2122607

Ram

Sn1p3r · 2nd December 2010, 18:28

^ Nokia has definitely and actually shaken out of its slumber.

It is now getting back to market for what it was known for. Good Phones first and then different functionalities add on. My E61 had Magnesium alloy cover at the same time N70 used to have the flimsy black plastic and the shell used to chip just with your nail. Thus they have had their priorities set differently and now that the top management had a stern wake up call, the new phones are definitely better. E71 is very nice, but I feel the steel construction has made it tad heavy.

raj_5004 · 2nd December 2010, 18:59

Guys, my bro needs a phone within a budget of 35k. He has an X10 mini now but he dint like the Android OS. He prefers the simplicity of the Symbian. He is also keen on buying the Galaxy Tab.

So which phone, apart from the Nokia N8, would be good for him? Priorities are-

* Easy to use OS
* Good camera
* Qwerty keypad if possible
* Touchscreen is not a compulsion but not a hinder either
* 3G compatibility, Video calling is a bonus
* Business applications, if available, would be nice

I have shortlisted the -

BB torch 9800 - He is not too keen on BB
Nokia E7 - not launched yet?
Nokia N8 - E7 seems to be better for him!
SE Vivaz Pro for him - resistive touchscreen!

vivekiny2k · 3rd December 2010, 09:05

so I installed xdandroid on my HTC touch, now its a dual boot system. Quite impressed by the simplicity and seamless sync with google, but still few things might push me back to windows.

e.g. if I get an alert (missed call, email, calendar reminder) I have to unlock to see and dismiss it. in windows it just pops out. still experimenting though.

mav2000 · 3rd December 2010, 10:31

raj, If your brother wants an easy to use OS, then the first choice would be an Iphone. next would be symbian. These days the OS is more important as a lot of people continue with the same OS on different devices.

navin · 3rd December 2010, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Ram

My use of my Nokia N8 device (in order of priority) is ls[*]to send and receive SMS text messages. I use Swype to enter text.

Ram, for a non techie who sends 60-70 SMSes per day is the N8's touc screen a viable option? My wife'c last phone was a N96.

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

BB torch 9800 - He is not too keen on BB
Nokia E7 - not launched yet?
Nokia N8 - E7 seems to be better for him!
SE Vivaz Pro for him - resistive touchscreen!

E7 camera does NOT have auto focus.

2nd December 2010, 10:38	#7353
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,239 Thanked: 3,145 Times	Sony Vivaz Pro has a Symbian OS. Also, look at the Xperia X10 Mini Pro, costs 16k. Its small, compact & lightweight, ideal for your wife & now comes with Android 2.1 OS, outdated compared to Froyo in Smasung but it would not matter much to your wife. Sad part is it only has a 5MP cam.
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2nd December 2010, 13:12	#7355
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,239 Thanked: 3,145 Times	I have not used the torch so i frankly cannot compare the SEs with it. I have used the X10 mini & it's QWERTY is good enough for messaging.
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2nd December 2010, 16:11	#7356
Sn1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,022 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	Navin, I speak from experience. I have tested the N8 extensively and also using apple iPod touch {experience example for keyboard}, earlier an iPhone 3G user. Camera as you say is good but it will never be used for dedicated photoshoot. N8 has much going for it but the sheer joy you experience with iPhone can not be replicated. N8's interface to me looked half baked. It is not responsive once multiple apps are running. iPhone {iPod} is better in this regard. I have not tested any of the Android stuff so wont comment. I am sure rave reviews of Samsung Galaxy S and latest variants make a good case against the iPhone. However, living with one is the main point and I love my iPhone and iPad. Cheers! Guys, help me decide on a great finish simple [dumb] phone.
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2nd December 2010, 16:52	#7357
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,224 Thanked: 28,356 Times	My wife has just been given an E71. It is unbelievably solid compared to my N82, that it is hard to believe that it is made by the same company --- and, apparently, internal structure and politics in Nokia did make the E division pretty much separate to the N division. It feels good, it is well made, it has heaps of quality, and I could probably get used to the tiny, tiny qwerty keys (with reading glasses on, of course) but, the trouble is, its priorities are just not what either of us wants in a phone.
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2nd December 2010, 18:13	#7359
zoom2_ash BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 74 Thanked: 5 Times	[quote=harry10;2155789]After a quick reserach found these 4- 1.-samsung star 3g 5603 2.-samsung s7070 diva 3.-sony xperia x10mini 4.-Samsung Monte Thank you kpzen- added Samsung Monte also in the list.] I would suggest you to check our Galaxy 5. It costs Rs 8500 and i must say that this the best phone availble under Rs10000. Its an android2.1. Really fast, excellent capacitive touch screen. Resolution is less but then its good for its price range. It has all the features like 3g, wi fi, GPS, bluetooth, good audio quality, reasonable 2MP camera and the phone is very responsive. I am using this phone from last 3 months or so and downloaded many apps from the market but the response of the phone is still very good. So, check this out and buy it if you like the looks.
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2nd December 2010, 18:21	#7360
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	A happy Nokia N8 user My use of my Nokia N8 device (in order of priority) is to make and receive audio calls to send and receive SMS text messages. I use Swype to enter text. to shoot close-up macro shots 10 cm away from the subject item. The five-element Carl Zeiss Tessar lens and Xenon flash is invaluable for this. turn-by-turn voice guided GPS navigation. to shoot portraits and long-on landscapes. to shoot full-motion video with stereo sound and watch it on an HD TV using the provided HDMI cable and shows 720p video. Also Dolby Digital Plus sound to the home-theater. to watch DivX movies while travelling long-distance. to transmit my music from the N8 over FM 99.00 MHz to my car FM stereo and listen while driving. Which phone from any manufacturer does all this? (and that too for under Rs. 24,000) The N8 has a rugged aluminium-alloy monocoque body. I am totally delighted with my 36-day old Tangerine Orange Nokia N8. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadget...ml#post2122607 Ram
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2nd December 2010, 18:28	#7361
Sn1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,022 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	^ Nokia has definitely and actually shaken out of its slumber. It is now getting back to market for what it was known for. Good Phones first and then different functionalities add on. My E61 had Magnesium alloy cover at the same time N70 used to have the flimsy black plastic and the shell used to chip just with your nail. Thus they have had their priorities set differently and now that the top management had a stern wake up call, the new phones are definitely better. E71 is very nice, but I feel the steel construction has made it tad heavy.
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2nd December 2010, 18:59	#7362
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,239 Thanked: 3,145 Times	Guys, my bro needs a phone within a budget of 35k. He has an X10 mini now but he dint like the Android OS. He prefers the simplicity of the Symbian. He is also keen on buying the Galaxy Tab. So which phone, apart from the Nokia N8, would be good for him? Priorities are- * Easy to use OS * Good camera * Qwerty keypad if possible * Touchscreen is not a compulsion but not a hinder either * 3G compatibility, Video calling is a bonus * Business applications, if available, would be nice I have shortlisted the - BB torch 9800 - He is not too keen on BB Nokia E7 - not launched yet? Nokia N8 - E7 seems to be better for him! SE Vivaz Pro for him - resistive touchscreen! Last edited by raj_5004 : 2nd December 2010 at 19:10.
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3rd December 2010, 09:05	#7363
vivekiny2k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: cincinnati, jabalpur,chennai Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	so I installed xdandroid on my HTC touch, now its a dual boot system. Quite impressed by the simplicity and seamless sync with google, but still few things might push me back to windows. e.g. if I get an alert (missed call, email, calendar reminder) I have to unlock to see and dismiss it. in windows it just pops out. still experimenting though.
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3rd December 2010, 10:31	#7364
mav2000 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 622 Thanked: 315 Times View My Garage	raj, If your brother wants an easy to use OS, then the first choice would be an Iphone. next would be symbian. These days the OS is more important as a lot of people continue with the same OS on different devices.
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