Need Advice on "Graphic Card"

aaggoswami · 5th February 2009, 22:09

What is the rating of your SMPS ?
This can also happen due to fact that the card is not getting proper power.
The fact that fan runs is baffling. Usually if the compatibility is not there, it the card wont be even detected. I have faced this issue of card not getting detected.

aaggoswami · 5th February 2009, 22:37

I again reconfirmed with my computer vendor and did a lot of googling after reading your problem.

I came to know that the first Intel chipset to support PCI-E X16 2.0 was X38. From p/g45, they have made PCI-E 2.0 standard.
PCI-E X16 has backward compatibility with older versions.

I think this problem is related to either your SMPS not being capable of supplying power or its mobo itself that is not at ease.

parimal_g · 5th February 2009, 23:40

aaggoswami
i am sure the problem is not with SMPS as the friend of mine who brought this card for me also checked on his SMPS on my mobo it was not working even then
may be i will check my friends 8600 on my mobo and then will see if it works or not.

SirAlec · 6th February 2009, 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by parimal_g

aaggoswami
i am sure the problem is not with SMPS as the friend of mine who brought this card for me also checked on his SMPS on my mobo it was not working even then
may be i will check my friends 8600 on my mobo and then will see if it works or not.

Thats a smart idea!

aaggoswami · 6th February 2009, 08:28

This is actually weird problem.
In a similar fashion, check your graphics card in other PC also.

devarshi84 · 6th February 2009, 09:05

did you un-install the chipset graphics drivers before installing the dedicated GPU? I had an issue when I Installed an Nvidia 8600 on my friends desktop. The nvidia chipset drivers were installed and everything was running but the display wouldnt come up.

parimal_g · 6th February 2009, 10:05

aaggoswami
we checked the GIC on other mobo and the card is working fine

devarshi,
I directly connected to GIC to monitor and that time only display was not coming so didn't went further to install the drivers,as mobo was not even detecting the card also.

aaggoswami · 6th February 2009, 17:51

@parimal_g:
1) Did you test your friend's 8600 on your mobo ?
2) From the SMPS, I wanted to know rating of your SMPS i.e. for example 400W, 280W ? What is that for your SMPS. It is possible that in your PC, the SMPS is not able to provide sufficient power to power on the graphics card.
When you plugged in your graphics card in your firned's machine, his SMPS could have had the power to run that card.

parimal_g · 6th February 2009, 18:28

aaggoswami
My SMPS is VIP make and of 400 watts.
and for testing purpose i removed my SMPS and provided connection from my friends SMPS which is 500 watts and MOBO was mine it was not working then also.

greenhorn · 6th February 2009, 18:49

dude , have you gotten any other card to work on YOUR motherboard

and as i asked you before, mobos with onboard video have the onboard video enabled by default and the PCI E slot disabled. what is your exact model of your mobo, and are you sure you've configured bios correctly to set the output to gfx card.

parimal_g · 6th February 2009, 20:06

@greenhorn,

no i have not checked any other card on my mobo after checking the 9500,my be i will try one of my friends GIC on Sunday.
and about the setting i did checked COMS setting for PCI express.

ankitaggarwal · 6th February 2009, 22:45

i sincerely believe that the new radeon grp of graphic cards will go with amd based processors while nvidia ones are better performing in intel based pcs..There are a few nvidia (really expensive ones....16-22k) that will nearly erase the need of any ps or xbox for your gaming needs!!! Happy gaming!

greenhorn · 6th February 2009, 22:49

when you install the card and boot up, check if the mobo is giving out any output

devarshi84 · 7th February 2009, 00:55

Do you have another PCI slot? Maybe your PCI slot has gone bad.

SirAlec · 7th February 2009, 02:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by devarshi84

Do you have another PCI slot? Maybe your PCI slot has gone bad.

card is a PCI xpress card and not the PCI. So there is only one PCI xpress slot in 915 mobo.

5th February 2009, 22:09	#61
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,994 Thanked: 2,983 Times	What is the rating of your SMPS ? This can also happen due to fact that the card is not getting proper power. The fact that fan runs is baffling. Usually if the compatibility is not there, it the card wont be even detected. I have faced this issue of card not getting detected.
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5th February 2009, 22:37	#62
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,994 Thanked: 2,983 Times	I again reconfirmed with my computer vendor and did a lot of googling after reading your problem. I came to know that the first Intel chipset to support PCI-E X16 2.0 was X38. From p/g45, they have made PCI-E 2.0 standard. PCI-E X16 has backward compatibility with older versions. I think this problem is related to either your SMPS not being capable of supplying power or its mobo itself that is not at ease.
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5th February 2009, 23:40	#63
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	aaggoswami i am sure the problem is not with SMPS as the friend of mine who brought this card for me also checked on his SMPS on my mobo it was not working even then may be i will check my friends 8600 on my mobo and then will see if it works or not.
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6th February 2009, 08:28	#65
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,994 Thanked: 2,983 Times	This is actually weird problem. In a similar fashion, check your graphics card in other PC also.
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6th February 2009, 09:05	#66
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	did you un-install the chipset graphics drivers before installing the dedicated GPU? I had an issue when I Installed an Nvidia 8600 on my friends desktop. The nvidia chipset drivers were installed and everything was running but the display wouldnt come up.
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6th February 2009, 10:05	#67
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	aaggoswami we checked the GIC on other mobo and the card is working fine devarshi, I directly connected to GIC to monitor and that time only display was not coming so didn't went further to install the drivers,as mobo was not even detecting the card also.
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6th February 2009, 17:51	#68
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,994 Thanked: 2,983 Times	@parimal_g: 1) Did you test your friend's 8600 on your mobo ? 2) From the SMPS, I wanted to know rating of your SMPS i.e. for example 400W, 280W ? What is that for your SMPS. It is possible that in your PC, the SMPS is not able to provide sufficient power to power on the graphics card. When you plugged in your graphics card in your firned's machine, his SMPS could have had the power to run that card.
	() Thanks

6th February 2009, 18:28	#69
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	aaggoswami My SMPS is VIP make and of 400 watts. and for testing purpose i removed my SMPS and provided connection from my friends SMPS which is 500 watts and MOBO was mine it was not working then also.
	() Thanks

6th February 2009, 18:49	#70
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,880 Thanked: 4,904 Times View My Garage	dude , have you gotten any other card to work on YOUR motherboard and as i asked you before, mobos with onboard video have the onboard video enabled by default and the PCI E slot disabled. what is your exact model of your mobo, and are you sure you've configured bios correctly to set the output to gfx card.
	() Thanks

6th February 2009, 20:06	#71
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	@greenhorn, no i have not checked any other card on my mobo after checking the 9500,my be i will try one of my friends GIC on Sunday. and about the setting i did checked COMS setting for PCI express.
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6th February 2009, 22:45	#72
ankitaggarwal Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: noida Posts: 15 Thanked: 29 Times	i sincerely believe that the new radeon grp of graphic cards will go with amd based processors while nvidia ones are better performing in intel based pcs..There are a few nvidia (really expensive ones....16-22k) that will nearly erase the need of any ps or xbox for your gaming needs!!! Happy gaming!
	() Thanks

6th February 2009, 22:49	#73
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,880 Thanked: 4,904 Times View My Garage	when you install the card and boot up, check if the mobo is giving out any output
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7th February 2009, 00:55	#74
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Do you have another PCI slot? Maybe your PCI slot has gone bad.
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