[vb-saan]

Originally Posted by ashish2135

My Iphone 14 pro which is almost 2 years has already reached 84% Battery health. My work requires constant use of phone calls and Whatsapp messages. The battery percentage reaches as low as 30% on most days by 2:30 pm. It is a big let down. I upgraded from an Iphone 11 which was facing similar issue in its 3rd year. Apparently Iphone 11 and 14 Pro have both 3200mAh battery capacity.

I wonder if my next phone should be a Google Pixel but then I am completely engrossed in the Apple ecosystem and nothing can beat the use of the Iphone.

This is pretty much the standard scenario with the standard Pro models. My 15 Pro (with 98% battery health) is no different. On so-called heavy use days the phone need to have to quick shot of charge around late afternoon. If you are looking for all-day battery life with an iPhone I would think an upgrade to Pro Max, or downgrade to the Plus model are the options. Both these phones easily give a full day without any fuss.

Originally Posted by AJ56

But I fail to see how it’s a scam.

You would rather Apple keep us in the dark and not mention the battery health? I’m all for more info, not less. Battery health, cycle count, nominal and max battery capacity should be shown in all iPhones I feel.

I do think it’s a scam, intended or otherwise. This battery health thing is impacting the phone replacement cycle in a big way (at least in the developed markets). Earlier days, you have an iPhone and you are a careful user, the phone will easily serve you well for a minimum of 3 years. Now with this battery health % thing, after 1 year the doubts start creeping in seeing 90%-92% battery health, and by second year most users will feel the urge to change to a newer model because of the highly deteriorating resale value (due to battery health %) – a perfect ploy to make users upgrade their otherwise perfect iPhone.

As an example, below is a screenshot of the 15 Pro Max I sold last month. Physically in flawless condition, and easily would have fetched around SGD 1500 (~INR 100,000), if the battery health was above 95%. But because of the 91% battery, the max offer I got was SGD 1250 (~INR 80,000). And I was lucky it was still at 91%, anything below 90% means a steep decline in resale value.



On a side note, my 15 Pro was on 100% for the whole year, and decided to move to 98% on the eve of iPhone 16 series launch - talk about coincidence

[ashish2135]

Originally Posted by vb-saan

This is pretty much the standard scenario with the standard Pro models. My 15 Pro (with 98% battery health) is no different. On so-called heavy use days the phone need to have to quick shot of charge around late afternoon. If you are looking for all-day battery life with an iPhone I would think an upgrade to Pro Max, or downgrade to the Plus model are the options. Both these phones easily give a full day without any fuss.

You are completely right about the phone replacement cycle and the doubt creeping in the mind.

Any suggestions on the battery replacement program, I think it is about 10k through the official Apple distributor. Is it worth it?

[SoumenD]

The daddy sale (flipkart BBD) is here & my spouse upgraded from her 5 year old iPhone X to 15. HDFC card offer was 3.5k instant discount which made it much better than flipkart’s own axis card discount (2.75k). Opted for express delivery and it was delivered in 15 minutes. Was open box, so checked the usual stuff (physical damages, IMEI & serial number verification, storage & service warranty).

On-road price paid was ₹54999 (sale price)+₹148 (secured packing fees)-₹3500 (HDFC instant discount)= ₹51647.

Question: Mine is regalia gold which has 4RPs for every ₹150 spent. Does this ₹51647 qualify for the base reward points? That would add another ~₹688 off making it effectively sub 51k

[kavensri]

Originally Posted by SoumenD

The daddy sale(flipkart BBD) is here & my spouse upgraded from her 5 year old iPhone X to 15. HDFC card offer was 3.5k instant discount which made it much better than flipkart’s own axis card discount(2.75k). Opted for express delivery and it was delivered in 15 minutes. Was open box, so checked the usual stuff(physical damages, IMEI & serial number verification, storage & service warranty).

You know what, I also ordered it on 26th 12am and at that time, the discount offer was Rs2000 for HDFC card. And even the delivery date was next day (27th). But when I checked today morning it was showing Rs3500 as bank discount. I got really pissed off looking at the discount amount. Luckily the order was still not in 'out for delivery' state and hence I was able to cancel it. I then re-ordered it again. I had also opted for VIP pass (by paying Rs499) so that I could use 1000 points from Flipkart. So, my effective price is 50647.


And with the reward points, I will be getting another Rs842 back. So, the effective price would be Rs49805

[SoumenD]

Originally Posted by kavensri

You know what, I also ordered it on 26th 12am and at that time, the discount offer was Rs2000 for HDFC card. And even the delivery date was next day (27th). But when I checked today morning it was showing Rs3500 as bank discount. I got really pissed off looking at the discount amount. Luckily the order was still not in 'out for delivery' state and hence I was able to cancel it. I then re-ordered it again.

Hahaha. Deja-vu. Many of us did this I guess, even I cancelled my order seeing this HDFC discount today. 2 weird things I noticed this BBD sale. Price of 15 stayed the same throughout from 26th midnight till today(it went up by 500 after first 30 mins, but was reduced again). Back in 2021 BBD sale when I picked my 12, remember it went up by 1k within 30 mins and kept going up every 12-24hrs.

Second HDFC card offer was 2000 like you mentioned at midnight, yesterday changed to 1500, today its 3500

[ex-innova-guy]

Got the 16 Pro 256 GB in Desert Titanium today. By mistake, I had pre-ordered White Titanium online on 13/09. Realised about my goof up on 17/09 and promptly went to a nearby store and preordered another one in Desert Titanium. They gave me no assurance of delivery period but got a call last evening that the phone had arrived and I could collect it today.







Was the first customer to walk-in and collect the order today. This is a massive upgrade for my sister coming from an iPhone 7+.

On-road price turned out to be ~₹1,10,000 since I would be claiming ~₹20,000 GST. Will share some pictures comparing pictures from 7+, 13 Pro Max and 16 Pro later.

Some more pictures of other iPhones:

[DetectiveMiles]

Originally Posted by kavensri

You know what, I also ordered it on 26th 12am and at that time, the discount offer was Rs2000 for HDFC card. And even the delivery date was next day (27th). But when I checked today morning it was showing Rs3500 as bank discount. I got really pissed off looking at the discount amount. Luckily the order was still not in 'out for delivery' state and hence I was able to cancel it.

I had ordered one for wife, on 26th 12am with HDFC card, today is wife's birthday and I didn't cancel, though I was very angry. And if I cancel, next it is showing delivery as 30th . I don't get the terms becasue, I checked the detailed t&c sheet, it shows same HDFC offer for both 26th and 27th. What is the point of early access when it is bogus. I have a strong doubt they were not able to meet the target sales. Even Times of India this year has less ads of BBD/GIF Sales compared to last year.

[kavensri]

Originally Posted by DetectiveMiles

I had ordered one for wife, on 26th 12am with HDFC card, today is wife's birthday and I didn't cancel, though I was very angry. And if I cancel, next it is showing delivery as 30th . I don't get the terms becasue, I checked the detailed t&c sheet, it shows same HDFC offer for both 26th and 27th. What is the point of early access when it is bogus. I have a strong doubt they were not able to meet the target sales. Even Times of India this year has less ads of BBD/GIF Sales compared to last year.

Both the phone price and the delivery date kept fluctuating since yesterday. If the phone is still not delivered, you can still try to cancel it and re-order. Because, I did that couple of hours ago and delivery date was showing today itself.

[AJ56]

Originally Posted by vb-saan

I do think it’s a scam, intended or otherwise. This battery health thing is impacting the phone replacement cycle in a big way (at least in the developed markets). Earlier days, you have an iPhone and you are a careful user, the phone will easily serve you well for a minimum of 3 years. Now with this battery health % thing, after 1 year the doubts start creeping in seeing 90%-92% battery health, and by second year most users will feel the urge to change to a newer model because of the highly deteriorating resale value (due to battery health %) – a perfect ploy to make users upgrade their otherwise perfect iPhone.

As an example, below is a screenshot of the 15 Pro Max I sold last month. Physically in flawless condition, and easily would have fetched around SGD 1500 (~INR 100,000), if the battery health was above 95%. But because of the 91% battery, the max offer I got was SGD 1250 (~INR 80,000). And I was lucky it was still at 91%, anything below 90% means a steep decline in resale value.

Your phone can still serve you easily for 3+ years with no battery replacement. My 13
Pro Max is 3 years old and battery health is still above 80% with over 1300 cycles. Zero drop in performance benchmarks (Geekbench, 3D Wildlife, Antutu.)

All my other iPhones also went upto their third year without needing the battery change (except my 12 Pro Max as I sold it after a year.)

It’s not Apples fault if users tend to be ignorant of basic battery health information and what it means for their device. I would still much rather all health parameters be easily accessible rather than hidden.

Can’t say for Singapore but in India it has a negligible impact of resale, max 5-6k. I sold my 12 Pro Max for 82k after 1 year of use with battery health down to 80%. I would’ve got maybe 5-6k more had I had more health.

50% resale value after 1 year of use for a phone is excellent retention of value given how quickly tech becomes obsolete.

[somersault]

Originally Posted by sumathindra

On second thoughts in case of need, do you charge in between or its one charge a day?

During the day I charge only when I am nearing 30% - 40%. Most days I do not need it. Following link and the links inside are helpful in case of IPhone.

https://support.apple.com/en-in/108055

[SideView]

Some strange occurrences on my iphone 8 plus (87% health on 2+ year old replaced battery)

Battery percentage increasing without me charging it. (Went from 10% to 13%)




I am thinking this is due to app upgrades that i did. ( No os updates off-late)

[drGicher]

Its been a year and battery health is at 96%.

I am mostly using wireless charging to charge the phone and seldomly use the 20W wire charger.

What I have been feeling after iOS 18 update is that the battery capacity seems to be low, might be just a false feeling. But will observe the patterns to be sure.

[SmartCat]

Originally Posted by SideView

Some strange occurrences on my iphone 8 plus (87% health on 2+ year old replaced battery)

wow, I have an old iphone 8 plus too. See my review here:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadge...martphone.html (Comparison: 6-year old flagship smartphone Vs latest entry-level smartphone)

Are you able to get UPI to work in iPhone 8 plus? Google Pay says UPI works only on iPhone X and above.

[SideView]

Originally Posted by SmartCat

wow, I have an old iphone 8 plus too. See my review here:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadge...martphone.html (Comparison: 6-year old flagship smartphone Vs latest entry-level smartphone)

Are you able to get UPI to work in iPhone 8 plus? Google Pay says UPI works only on iPhone X and above.

Yes, have been using g-pay (also paytm) for quiet a while. Wasnt aware of any such limitations.

Version details below:

[Sierra__foxtrot]

Anyone having issues with Apple CarPlay after getting the IOS 18.0 update? I have an I phone 12 pro that still works like a champ and I see no reason to upgrade from it for another year or two but after this new update the car play won't work on the first instance. Mine is the wired setup in my POLO and I have to connect and reconnect it again after a few instance to get this running and it is cutting off randomly as well. Initially I thought it was a wire based problem but I ran this with an iOS 17 phone and it was having no problems running CarPlay. This problem is being reported internationally aswell and hopefully a fix is in the works