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Old 1st September 2021, 08:06   #8926
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P.s. BPL had come out with a massive ad in Times of India Mumbai yesterday, was pleasantly surprised to see that.
I hear that BPL is planning big -and wants to challenge the likes of LG & the like. I will not be surprised if they displace the chinese brands in consumer electronics segment (including TV) in due course.
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Anybody has experience with using a pressure pump to over come low water pressure issue? My plumber suggested to install a .5hp pressure pump to overcome low inlet water pressure for the washing machine.
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I hear that BPL is planning big -and wants to challenge the likes of LG & the like. I will not be surprised if they displace the chinese brands in consumer electronics segment (including TV) in due course.
You said it! BPL has massive brand recall. If Reliance is successful in relaunching the brand and providing the erstwhile quality at competitive prices, no reason why their products won't sell like hot cakes. The Chinese brands are notching up heavy sales only due to the pricing and offering features. The hegemony of Chinese brands is being broken up gradually and that's a good thing.
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I hear that BPL is planning big -and wants to challenge the likes of LG & the like. I will not be surprised if they displace the chinese brands in consumer electronics segment (including TV) in due course.
Reliance has its own appliance brand called Reconnect which is not successful and they suffer with poor quality. Now with acquiring the license from BPL and Kelvinator, they are trying a Morris Garage in the appliances market. Rebranding their own stuff.
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Anybody has experience with using a pressure pump to over come low water pressure issue? My plumber suggested to install a .5hp pressure pump to overcome low inlet water pressure for the washing machine.
Using a pressure pump to boost pressure from ordinary to decent! Yes. We pressurize the whole-house water. We keep the pressure modest, might be about 2 bar, except I'm bad at remembering numbers, but it is enough to get a proper shower, rather than a drizzle, and a decent car wash (nothing like an actual pressure washer, but enough).

It might be worth thinking about plumbing, which has only been done for low-pressure water in most Indian houses, but we haven't had a problem. If you have/want a solar water heater, it must be compatible with pressure systems.

We have a Grundfos booster system. They seem to be the Rolls Royce of the pump world and are priced to match. Cheaper products available.

I can give a shout for Grundfos customer service. They refurbished our pump, a few years ago, and made it look as well as work, like new. These things need regular service because of the amount of muck and impurities in our water.

(we have since done a stupid thing, which was to forget it for months and not notice a small nearby leak which resulted in it sitting in a puddle. I think these things are built for a long life, but, through our own fault, ours has now rusted to need replacement. It still works though! On the to-do list)
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Anybody has experience with using a pressure pump to over come low water pressure issue? My plumber suggested to install a .5hp pressure pump to overcome low inlet water pressure for the washing machine.
We used to have. Grundfos made and it still exists but just that we don't use it any more.

It definitely improves the pressure. My model even had a settable pressure ranging from 2 to 8 bar I think. I always used it at a pretty low 2 or 2.5 I think.

Make sure your downstream pipes and stuff can take care of the pressure. In my case I went in for a solar water heater that could take in a higher pressure than normal - watch for things like that.
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I hear that BPL is planning big -and wants to challenge the likes of LG & the like. I will not be surprised if they displace the chinese brands in consumer electronics segment (including TV) in due course.
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Y The Chinese brands are notching up heavy sales only due to the pricing and offering features. The hegemony of Chinese brands is being broken up gradually and that's a good thing.
Is reliance going to manufacture their stuff here? It might be cheaper to just rebrand Chinese stuff rather than set up/revive manufacturing facilities in India.
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Grundfos i was told, has dipped in quality many years back. KSB was the good one .
(feedback from my BiL who is in the industrial sector)
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Anybody has experience with using a pressure pump to over come low water pressure issue? My plumber suggested to install a .5hp pressure pump to overcome low inlet water pressure for the washing machine.
I have installed Kirloskar 0.5 hp pump with pressure pump switch to boost the pressure for the washing machine and for the bathrooms. It is a major improvement in showering experience. You will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.
I have divided the water circuitry into two parts - one serviced by the pressure pump and the other normal which feeds the ancient water heater I had. Kitchen also uses the normal supply as otherwise the servants will flood the kitchen.
But there is a caveat. The pump will work fine for years. But the pressure switch which controls the pump will need replacement every 2 years. The cost is about Rs.2400/-
The sludge in the water will clog the switch and it will become intermittent forcing you to change that.
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... ... ... the pressure switch which controls the pump will need replacement every 2 years. The cost is about Rs.2400/-
The sludge in the water will clog the switch and it will become intermittent forcing you to change that.
Yes, we have the same experience, although probably not as little as two years. Preventative maintenance would probably save the day, but might end up costing just as much over time.
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Guys, suggestions please for a Bottom mounted freezer type refrigerator.

Restriction in space: Cannot be taller than 160 cm including a stand, since this particular unit will be placed below a staircase.

Due to the above point, the capacity of the fridge cannot be more than 275 litres.

Checked amazon, and I only see Haier, Whirlpool brands. Both are larger size.

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Guys, suggestions please for a Bottom mounted freezer type refrigerator.

Restriction in space: Cannot be taller than 160 cm including a stand, since this particular unit will be placed below a staircase.

Due to the above point, the capacity of the fridge cannot be more than 275 litres.

Checked amazon, and I only see Haier, Whirlpool brands. Both are larger size.

TIA
Bottom freezer not available in small capacities usually. Lesser known brands will have but not the well known brands like Panasonic and Hitachi.
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Using a pressure pump to boost pressure from ordinary to decent! Yes. We pressurize the whole-house water. We keep the pressure modest, might be about 2 bar, except I'm bad at remembering numbers, but it is enough to get a proper shower, rather than a drizzle, and a decent car wash (nothing like an actual pressure washer, but enough).
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We used to have. Grundfos made and it still exists but just that we don't use it any more.

It definitely improves the pressure. My model even had a settable pressure ranging from 2 to 8 bar I think. I always used it at a pretty low 2 or 2.5 I think.

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Thank you! You've answered some additional questions I had about the pressure.

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I have installed Kirloskar 0.5 hp pump with pressure pump switch to boost the pressure for the washing machine and for the bathrooms. It is a major improvement in showering experience. You will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.
I have divided the water circuitry into two parts - one serviced by the pressure pump and the other normal which feeds the ancient water heater I had. Kitchen also uses the normal supply as otherwise the servants will flood the kitchen.
But there is a caveat. The pump will work fine for years. But the pressure switch which controls the pump will need replacement every 2 years. The cost is about Rs.2400/-
The sludge in the water will clog the switch and it will become intermittent forcing you to change that.
Exactly my use case. My plumber is suggesting CRI brand and the cost (motor+controller) is coming to 9k+.

I made the mistake of installing the washing machine point on the terrace, below the overhead water tank. The water tank-to-washing machine inlet distance is just about 6ft. This does not give sufficient water pressure for the washing machine. Due to this, washing cycle durations are quite high.

I also considered lifting the overhead water tank by another 6ft by adding a metal structure. Not very keen on this since it involves re-doing a lot of plumbing.
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I also considered lifting the overhead water tank by another 6ft by adding a metal structure. Not very keen on this since it involves re-doing a lot of plumbing.
Even if you raise the water tank by 6 feet, it won't add much to the water pressure. I suffered the same issue with my first floor washing machine. The shower was pathetic. That is why we opted for the booster pump. It really makes a major difference.

I don't know how the washing machine feels, but surely I feel great every time I shower.
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Hi all!

On an urgent basis, a bestie is out in the market to purchase a new washing machine. He has an old National NA733T top load machine which is slowly starting to give way after 40 years. The new one will be used by one person only. Since my friend has allergies, at any point, a double bed sheet, one towel and daily change of clothes are washed daily. Don't wish to spend much but don't want to under spend too. Want to purchase a quality product with great after sales and service along with overall durability and reliability. Location Mumbai. Will deeply appreciate your inputs. Look forward to your interactions.

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