[Chetan_Rao]

I had to replace my Samsung washing machine last week.

The issue: clogged drainage due to scaling. Needed drum to be taken out, but impossible to do because the bolt securing the drum to the motor is exposed to water by design, and a decade of exposure meant it could only be removed by cutting the bolt. Replacement parts unavailable.

Don't regret it because I got a decade of service, but still irksome to discard a perfectly working specimen for a minor fault made irreparable by a silly design.

For the drum issue, what exactly is the noise? If it's a knocking sound like the drum is off balance and hitting the side panels from inside, it may just be a sticky suspension bush.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by n.arun01

For the past week, the drum in our Bosch washing machine is making strange sounds. The technician visited today and says that the drum is gone and needs to be replaced.

Unless the drum got ruined physically, I think I shall need more reasons as to warrant a replacement of drum. Or is it the bearings have gone bad & making noise?
If that's it, then here is one of my threads where I replaced the bearings of my washer as a DIY by spending peanuts!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...g-machine.html

Regards,
Saket

[n.arun01]

Its kind of a screeching noise which comes during spin and not during the wash. The reason being given by the Bosch technician is water hardness. We have only corporation/Metro water in our home at Adyar, Chennai. There is no bore or well water. So I am not convinced.

The arm holding the drum has cracked apparently. This was verified by a different technician, this time from Urban Clap.

Since the arm is moulded to the drum it cannot be replaced separately, so the whole set needs to be changed.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by n.arun01

The arm holding the drum has cracked apparently. This was verified by a different technician, this time from Urban Clap.

Since the arm is moulded to the drum it cannot be replaced separately, so the whole set needs to be changed.

So getting it welded is not an option? I think if its possible, it will work out to be much cheaper than drum replacement.
And cannot fathom that stupid design where the arm and drum are moulded together!

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by saket77

... .it will work out to be much cheaper than drum replacement.
And cannot fathom that stupid design where the arm and drum are moulded together!

It's not stupidity, it appears intentional to generate business for the service/spares department.

In my case, if the bolt securing the drum to the motor shaft had a rubber boot or something to keep water away from it, I could've got my machine repaired under a thousand bucks.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

It's not stupidity, it appears intentional to generate business for the service/spares department.

In my case, if the bolt securing the drum to the motor shaft had a rubber boot or something to keep water away from it, I could've got my machine repaired under a thousand bucks.

Yes, true. I read about Samsung' s design flaw in the thread link that I posted above. It was a bad experience posted by Parag where he had to fabricate a new mount by himself as the original one got corroded by water. In that sense, the old IFBs are much better designed/ engineered as nothing except the drum comes in contact with water as confirmed in my thread. I don't know about the modern IFBs though. Ironical that IFB started making washers in collaboration with Bosch only and Bosch carries this design!

Regards,
Saket.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by n.arun01

The arm holding the drum has cracked apparently. ... ... ... Since the arm is moulded to the drum it cannot be replaced separately, so the whole set needs to be changed.

Thanks for the clarification

Originally Posted by saket77

So getting it welded is not an option?

If the machine is out of warranty, it sounds like going to a local guy might produce a workable repair. A technical difficulty that occurs to me is balance. The drum and its attachments must be balanced, else it could become a demolition machine

I suspect it's doable. Would love it if you went ahead and got a success!

[saket77]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

If the machine is out of warranty, it sounds like going to a local guy might produce a workable repair. A technical difficulty that occurs to me is balance. The drum and its attachments must be balanced, else it could become a demolition machine.
I suspect it's doable. Would love it if you went ahead and got a success!

True! Front loaders can be really dangerous if rotating parts go out of balance.
However, as far my understanding goes, the mount we are talking about is stationary and fastens the chassis to the outer drum which actually doesn't rotate.
Though, I'm not sure since I haven't seen the construction of any other machine except mine.

Regards,
Saket.

[Aroy]

Originally Posted by n.arun01

For the past week, the drum in our Bosch washing machine is making strange sounds. The technician visited today and says that the drum is gone and needs to be replaced. This exactly after 5 months of expiry of the 2 year warranty period.
The cost of replacement will be around 10K.
Does it make sense to replace the drum or go for a new machine?
Also if going for a new machine which one is recommended? No Bosch definitely

Normally it is the bearing and/or the cage that goes. Never heard of the drum going bad. Maybe they mean the whole subsystem that has the drum, motor and its peripheral cage etc. Even our IFB which gave a lot of pain had never any drum problem, just the main motor going.

If you need a new machine I would strongly advise an LG Direct Drive. We bought our one six years ago with extended warranty to seventh year. Till date the only time I needed support was last month when the MB Blew (die to power surge?. Even then it cost less (3.5K) than 5K paid for extended service.

[aim120]

My EU spec whirlpool washing machine(imported by whirlpool india) worked for 8 years and then bearings failed. Whirlpool India flat out refused to even have a look at the machine, says no parts.

Manufactures are deliberately making the drums sealed so that you will need to replace the entire drum, in many cases its costs half as much as new washing machine and in US and European countries which has high labor, costs just as much as a new washing machine. https://www.which.co.uk/news/2015/06...o-fail-406177/

Me being a long time pro level DIY with tools that none here in this forum combined can match (fix and build everything myself in the house) and lucky to find the drum not welded, I procured the bearing easy and seal(the seal was very very hard to find, cannot stress that enough) and with some improvised solution, fixed it myself. My washing machine is good for atleast another 5 years to 10 years.

I didn't want to get a new whirlpool washing machine since the new ones all have sealed drum with some crappy Chinese bearings. Bosch, whirlpool are guaranteed to have a sealed drum not sure about LG and samsung.

[n.arun01]

Local mechs are not all that sure. They are of the opinion that the molding has to be heated so as to release the arm. Insert new one and get the molding sealed back.
And Bosch spares are not very easily available, so they have to source a similar one.
They are quoting 6k for this. I might as well pay 9.5 for a new drum and have peace of mind.
The local Bosch service center guy advised us to write a stinging letter to Bosch, which might result in some discount on the new drum.
But all mechs are of the same opinion, that repair and keep the Bosch machine itself. Do not buy new one, especially IFB
Thanks for all the replies. Will keep posted

[sairamboko]

Need help on buying an air purifier. My 3.5 yrs old son and myself have dust allergy and we living in BLR doesnt help much. We have regular wheezing problems at night and decided to get an air purifier for this sake. I have shortlisted the below 3. Please let me know which one to get:

1. Philips AC 12125 - https://www.amazon.in/Philips-AC1215...=air+purifiers

2. Honeywell A5 - https://www.amazon.in/Honeywell-Air-...rb_top?ie=UTF8

3. Mi Air purifier 2- https://www.amazon.in/MI-Air-Purifie...=air+purifiers

[pnredkar]

Originally Posted by sairamboko

Need help on buying an air purifier. My 3.5 yrs old son and myself have dust allergy and we living in BLR doesnt help much. We have regular wheezing problems at night and decided to get an air purifier for this sake. I have shortlisted the below 3. Please let me know which one to get:

1. Philips AC 12125 - https://www.amazon.in/Philips-AC1215...=air+purifiers

2. Honeywell A5 - https://www.amazon.in/Honeywell-Air-...rb_top?ie=UTF8

3. Mi Air purifier 2- https://www.amazon.in/MI-Air-Purifie...=air+purifiers

I was looking for an air purifier last month for my mother and have since bought the Sharp FP-F40E-T air purifier with ionizer for Rs. 22000/-. Before buying, I talked to a friend who has the Mi air purifier 2 and a larger but older Daikin air purifier. He is happy with both, but says that Mi will work well for a smaller room. I don't have much information about the other 2, except that I had considered the Philips one before deciding that I needed a larger one.

I selected the Sharp because it was available in a local store (to see it before buying). One of the review mentioned that the certification in US and China are more stringent, so selected a purifier certified there (which the Sharp is). Also Sharp seems to be consistently in the list of most recommended units in India based reviews (and so is Mi and Philips). However, the verdict is not clear about the benefits of the ionizer in general. It releases some amount of ozone which may trigger allergy according to information on few websites. That function can be switched off, but you have already payed for it.

From the above 3, I would recommend either the Philips or the Mi. I would recommend you to look at an equivalent Sharp model also. But first ensure that the small capacity air purifiers that you are looking are suitable for your room.

- Prasad

[diyguy]

Originally Posted by sairamboko

3. Mi Air purifier 2

If all purification functions were on par amongst the models of your shortlist, I would go with the Mi simply for its smart capabilities of control by an app, timer etc. It provides a great deal of convenience. I am extensively using their smart sockets, smart spike guards, door open sensor, bulbs, motion sensor, smart switch etc. The connected experience is really good.

[dre@ms]

During the recent Prestige sale, purchased the coffee maker along with other products.

1. Bought the Leo 60:40 powder
a. Filled water to the max level i.e., 4
b. Filled in 3 scoops of coffee powder
2. Coffee is watery
a. Filled water to medium level i.e., 4
b. Filled in 3 scoops of coffee powder
3. Coffee is still watery.

Questions,

1. What am I doing wrong?
2. We prefer strong coffee, so which powder should we purchase?
3. What should be combination of chicory and coffee for strong coffee?

https://www.prestigesmartkitchen.com...maker-pcmd-3-0