[Sebring]

Dear friend, not sure if you got the original but fit n finish is superb on mine. If you're talking about the dull finish, please peel the protective sticker on it. (In case you have 7 days, and you're still not OK with it, you must return it and get another)

Originally Posted by drive_angry

Upgraded to 12 Pro Max and got the same case. While the cover looks mad but in terms of fit and finish, I personally feel it is not there yet. I have 7 day return period and will see if I want to continue or get an additional one

[drive_angry]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Dear friend, not sure if you got the original but fit n finish is superb on mine. If you're talking about the dull finish, please peel the protective sticker on it. (In case you have 7 days, and you're still not OK with it, you must return it and get another)

Wait, you have a protective sticker on the plastic cover? Maybe I did get the counterfeit one. I was talking about the PU plastic one, it feels dull to me and not shiny enough maybe it will grow on me?

[SoumenD]

Sad if true. I always prefer compact phones and would have liked to see other manufacturers follow apple in launching mini versions of their flagship products without a compromise on performance. But if due to low demand this stops, other manufacturers will follow suit and continue with the gigantic phones

https://youtu.be/4dfd2liD-vw

[ashvek3141]

Originally Posted by SoumenD

Sad if true. I always prefer compact phones and would have liked to see other manufacturers follow apple in launching mini versions of their flagship products without a compromise on performance. But if due to low demand this stops, other manufacturers will follow suit and continue with the gigantic phones

Sadly, this is how it is going to be in the future. Screen sizes of ~ 6" or maybe phones sporting sizes near to the new iPhone 12 or even the Samsung S21 is the 'new' compact. I don't see the form factor of say the IP7 or the 12 Mini seeing any future.

As a matter of fact, I too was inclined in getting the 12 Mini as my new iPhone and was really happy when Apple announced that there'll be a compact phone with flagship specs. However, when I actually checked the phone in person, I found it too damn small for my liking. The phone felt really puny in hand, even smaller than my IP7 & I didn't quite feel comfortable using it.

Ultimately, dropped the plan of getting the Mini and jumped to the 12 Pro instead. Surely it is a size bigger than my requirement; but then that is how it is now and going forward too.

The ONLY decent 'compact' phone which I feel is available right now in the market is the Pixel 4a; but then isn't is quite a flagship.

[Venkatesh]

Brazilian consumer protection regulator Procon-SP has fined Apple $2 million for not including a charger with iPhone 12 series accusing the tech giant of allegedly engaging in misleading advertising, selling a device without the charger and unfair terms.

Apple was yet to comment on Procon-SP charges.

Source

[dadu]

Beware: Buy at your own LUCK

This is solely based on my 2 months of experience with a defective iPhone12 128GB

Part I - The Rise of 'iPhone'
The Saga began with an aspiration to buy a quality iPhone, feedback was that it never hangs....but wait no one told me that it won't hang till it works . This came as a gift to me from my wife, seeing my aspiration, she also got inspired and jumped the Gun to buy it on my birthday......

But none of us imagined the nightmare it will become if you got yourself a defective piece. Don't believe me, search for "iPhone 12 non-responsive screen". You will get heartburns reading how many of them have non-responsive screens and have not worked even after replacement of whole phone itself, one guy had it replaced 3 times but issue kept coming back.

It seems iPhone 12 is a defective build

After approx 15-20 days I started seeing same issue of phone unlocking(face unlock) but then nothing used to work on the touch screen. You are effectively not able to walk past the unlocked screen.

If you locked and unlocked again, touch screen would start functioning till the next time it would behave in the same manner. I installed the apple support app to diagnose the issue and luckily the touchscreen issues went away without any trace.

But wait, I wasnt so lucky, the same issue crept back exactly on the 54th day but this time with a vengeance, the phone simply wouldn't unlock no matter what you do. You can see the screen, it would charge and reboot and all that . Now began the nightmare which is the Part II.

Part II - The Phantom(iphone service) menace

- No direct way to contact India customer support, only through chat and they will do an automated call back
- First they tell me the usual workarounds, press button A, B, C etc etc. which I have already tried, standard procedures eating up so much time
- Next after frustrating 30 min call with them, they send me instructions over email to take backup and do a factory restore(ignoring the fact that the touch screen isnt working)
- As expected cannot take backup using itunes due to the PIN which requires your touch screen to work, frustrations are on the peak.
- Now I reach back to support and they are trying to get me an appointment with the nearest service center, their service locator app is not working and I am scheduled a call back.
- I wait at the designated schedule but I get a mail that I am not reachable, wait....my number is pre-fixed with a +91 and the automated call back is also adding another +91......shikes I will never get a call back.
- Now I try to reach out to them, with the frustrations at the peak, didn't want to talk to them so started a chat session and luckily got the appointment with them in the next hour.
- Reached the Service center, they asked me to wait, diagnosed and found that the iphone screen is not responsive, have to seek guidance from Apple.
- After a week of checking online status which didnt change, I called the service center and asked for status. I am told that they are waiting for parts from Apple. I told them I am not interested, either replace the whole handset or refund the money.
-I am provided Apple support number to talk to, as it a decision that has to come from Apple.
- I immediately call Apple support and have a long conversation of over 45 minutes in which they are defiant to replace the handset and insist that they provide quality repair in India which after repairs will be like new only.
- I offer them this "NEW" repaired phone and to give me my money back. I also state that in the USA, they replace and in INDIA is a repair, to which I am given an answer that every region has a different policy.....how discriminatory.
- The call ends after 45 minutes of strong discussions that I will evaluate the quality of repair and then only accept the phone back. They asked me to wait for 15 days for a "Prompt" service on their "Flagship" iPhone. But with still no change in status on their site, I am not sure if they even know what to do with these screen issues on iPhone

Part III - The Empire Strikes Back (Under production)

Learnings: Check the issues with a new product model before you take the plunge to buy it.

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by dadu

Beware: Buy at your own LUCK

This is solely based on my 2 months of experience with a defective iPhone12 128GB

Oh no this is worrying as I just booked my iPhone 12 Pro online yesterday. Along with some accessories too. My XR is more than two years pls now and though working find I thought this might be a good time to upgrade.

Is your model the 12 or the 12 Pro?

[dadu]

Originally Posted by Axe77

Oh no this is worrying as I just booked my iPhone 12 Pro online yesterday. Along with some accessories too. My XR is more than two years pls now and though working find I thought this might be a good time to upgrade.

Is your model the 12 or the 12 Pro?

iPhone 12, please do a search online on the iPhone 12 series plaguing screen issues. I would suggest waiting out a bit till #Apple sorts this out. My phone is with Apple service for 10 days with no update. I don't think they have a solution for this yet.

[ms001]

Is it safe to buy iPhone 12 from Flipkart ?
They seem to be having the lowest prices with good offers running .
Not really sure if these are genuinely non-refurbished or returned devices .
Does anyone have any experience with Flipkart bought iPhone ?

[Reality]

Originally Posted by ms001

Is it safe to buy iPhone 12 from Flipkart ?
They seem to be having the lowest prices with good offers running .
Not really sure if these are genuinely non-refurbished or returned devices .
Does anyone have any experience with Flipkart bought iPhone ?

I bought a SE 2 from Flipkart in October. No problems at all.
Just took a video of the unboxing process to be on the safer side.

[ms001]

Originally Posted by ms001

Is it safe to buy iPhone 12 from Flipkart ?
They seem to be having the lowest prices with good offers running .
Not really sure if these are genuinely non-refurbished or returned devices .
Does anyone have any experience with Flipkart bought iPhone ?

Got myself an iPhone 12 128GB at good offer from Flipkart, 6K offer discount + 6K HDFC credit card discount, final price ~73K.
It was a well packed Feb 2021 manufactured device, full marks to FK for the purchase and delivery experience.

I am enjoying the iOS experience except for 1 grouse, truecaller does not work on iPhone , finding it very difficult to filter the spam and unwanted calls .
If there is any other alternative to truecaller which works well in iOS, please do share.

[car_guy1998]

Is iPhone 12 (non Pro) an upgrade from iPhone XS in terms of camera?

And, how's the camera in night mode? Does regular 12 take much better pictures than the XS in low light?

Asking because I'm looking to change my XS, which I've been using since 1.5 years, to iPhone 12 since I don't have budget to get an iPhone 12 Pro and at the price of a 12 Pro, I might get an iPhone 12 along with an Apple Watch as well.

Camera is the most important thing for me when I'm considering buying a new phone as I love taking pictures of persons, cars and bikes, food, nature etc.

[extreme_torque]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

Is iPhone 12 (non Pro) an upgrade from iPhone XS in terms of camera?

And, how's the camera in night mode? Does regular 12 take much better pictures than the XS in low light?

Asking because I'm looking to change my XS, which I've been using since 1.5 years, to iPhone 12 since I don't have budget to get an iPhone 12 Pro and at the price of a 12 Pro, I might get an iPhone 12 along with an Apple Watch as well.

Camera is the most important thing for me when I'm considering buying a new phone as I love taking pictures of persons, cars and bikes, food, nature etc.

The main camera of the iPhone 12 line up is the same across except for the 12 Pro Max which has the larger sensor and therefore have excellent image quality including night mode which is a massive upgrade over your XS. But it also is a downgrade in the sense that you loose out on the 2x zoom lens but gain a wide angle lens. I myself upgraded from my iPhone XS Max to 12 Pro Max primary due to camera upgrades and the fact that it has a larger sensor for low light. If you can't afford a 12 Pro I reckon you should wait a while longer and get the iPhone 13 when it becomes available.

[vb-saan]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

Is iPhone 12 (non Pro) an upgrade from iPhone XS in terms of camera?

And, how's the camera in night mode? Does regular 12 take much better pictures than the XS in low light?

Asking because I'm looking to change my XS, which I've been using since 1.5 years, to iPhone 12 since I don't have budget to get an iPhone 12 Pro and at the price of a 12 Pro, I might get an iPhone 12 along with an Apple Watch as well.

Camera is the most important thing for me when I'm considering buying a new phone as I love taking pictures of persons, cars and bikes, food, nature etc.

I would say it’s a good upgrade from the XS. I felt iPhone camera had lost a bit of its mojo with the X and XS but they were back at their best with the 11 series and there on. I got a 12 mini on the weekend (moved existing 11 pro as work phone) and can safely say that the 12’s camera is brilliant. The night mode execution in the 12 range is better than the 11 pro. Did not opt for the 12 pro as I loved the small form factor of the mini and other than the 3rd telephoto camera, I was not losing much. Your idea of 12 and Apple watch sounds really good

Just a comparison of photos clicked on 11 pro and 12 mini (fresh out of the respective phones)

iPhone 11 Pro


iPhone 12 mini

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

Is iPhone 12 (non Pro) an upgrade from iPhone XS in terms of camera?

And, how's the camera in night mode? Does regular 12 take much better pictures than the XS in low light?

Asking because I'm looking to change my XS, which I've been using since 1.5 years, to iPhone 12 since I don't have budget to get an iPhone 12 Pro and at the price of a 12 Pro, I might get an iPhone 12 along with an Apple Watch as well.

Camera is the most important thing for me when I'm considering buying a new phone as I love taking pictures of persons, cars and bikes, food, nature etc.

Having used all models of iPhones from iPhone 6 to my current phone (iPhone 12 Pro Max)

I can safely tell you the upgrade from XS to iPhone 12 is real (especially with respect to camera). I can see this daily as my wife still uses the XSmax (I upgraded from XS max and used a 11 Pro for a short while in between) and there is a whole lot of difference in the camera for sure

My recommendation would be to upgrade to 12 with eyes closed if camera is your primary reason for upgrade

Clicked this morning from my window with my phone "Aftermath of Snow in Springtime"

Original file was 5mb JPEG so had to compress it (1.4mb) to share it here. You can click the image to see clarity