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Originally Posted by extreme_torque And the software needs hardware for it to run. Pixel 2 have a special chip in the SOC which handles the functions that you described. The other reason is that Google is sitting on a mountain of private data of user sitting in Google Photos which it can use to train its AI. The better the training, the better the results. Apple does not have this luxury because even the analysis of the photos happens on the phone and not on their server like Google.
Its difficult to trust displaymate when their review came right after phone's launch and they said they were provided "pre-release units" for evalutation. This is not to say that it does not have a good display but for real evaluation refer to this. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12520...xy-s9-review/7
Brand pull does not exist in vacuum. For it to work, the product has to be good. The amount of thought that goes into every component of the iPhone is staggering. For reference look at the image of Galaxy S9 opened up and then iPhone. Which one is better though out?
For all the innovation from Samsung that you speak of, what exactly are they innovating on - they use off the shelf SOC's (qualcomm), off the shelf software (Android but only make it worse). They do not have any services to speak of (apple/google music, app store etc etc). And for all their talk of high end design, they cant even get their ports aligned. The bottom and the top of Galaxy S9 is a complete mess as far as industrial design is concerned. Huawei is doing far better when it comes to innovation than Samsung who has always been an also ran. |
Samsung has always been lacking in tighter hardware+software integration and I am not aware of them having any special SoC hardware like Apple Motion Chip, Touch ID, Pixel Core etc. They definitely need to innovate and have tighter integration on this front. Many of the brilliant things they do seem to be a waste because it seems everyone is building things in silos instead of working towards 1 product.
The S9 display is the best on the market, I've read the Anandtech review as well. It is their calibration and modes which they are not happy about since they don't follow any color standard per se.
How the insides of the phones look is irrelevant I feel, plus neither of them are good on repairability scale but I've noticed Samsung has an option to just change the back glass for 5K and entire frame + display for 15k on my S8 Plus vs Apple charging 20-30k for full replacement.
Samsung has its own Exynos line of chipsets I'm sure you're aware, they have a long list of innovations and industry-leading hardware in key areas like display, memory etc. Having ports in a certain place is subjective, also industrial design doesn't necessarily make the product more usable or 'better'. I think the biggest problem used to be the offset fingerprint sensor even today the sensor is below the camera lens and you'll end up smudging your camera more often.
Yeah, Samsung has always struggled to bring out a coherent and tightly integrated experience, I think they just throw things at a wall and hope some of them stick, there is a long list of features they quietly sunset (some of them were very useful like IR blasters). They have their own assistant, app store and other services (even photos). Touchwiz has really improved but there is still a lot to be desired.
Also, I am not a Samsung fanboy. Heck, I've started
this thread 9 years ago! I've been exclusively on Mac's for twice that time. It's important to realize you can admire one brand without hating the other
I'm just curious as to how the popular opinion about Samsung propagated, I believe there is no perfect Android phone currently. Having used Pixel 2 XL, S9 Plus and now on Razer Phone. I guess you need to pick the flaws you can live with.
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Originally Posted by extreme_torque You are talking about Samsung the semi conductor company, I am talking about Samsung the mobile company. Sony also produces everything that you just mentioned but that does not make the Xperia range any good. A phone is more than sum of its parts.
Speaking of Exynos, their 9810 in the S9 has been slammed compared to Qualcomm 845 as they have made some basic mistakes not befitting a semi conductor company. For more refer to Anadtech's review and numerous reddit threads on the same issue.
In the same review you will also read that iPhone X's OLED better's the one in Galaxy S9. Manufacturing something is not the same as designing that thing. Apple and Qualcomm have outsourced the manufacturing to Samsung while keeping their own designs.
For every useful software feature, there are 10 that do not work. There is a duplicate app for every native Android app (mail, calender etc etc) Samsung's usual way is to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. A very bad way to design software. There is a reason why Samsung's slow down as they age or as you put more stuff into the phone. More important than doing it first is doing it right.
I have already addressed this but will repeat it anyway. Manufacturing something for someone is not the same as designing. |
Ok, I saw this reply to another thread so I thought it is prudent to add this here, please don't echo opinions on the internet if you don't have one of your own. Your arguments sound silly and seem like you're a Samsung hater (which is a very popular opinion on Reddit etc.) Samsung has launched the S9 Plus at a fantastic price in India in the day and age where Google charges 80k+ for their crappy Pixel 2 XL and over a lakh for an iPhone X by Apple. Apple Display calibration being ruled as more accurate than Samsung in display tests is moot if people prefer the 'Samsung' look in the real world. Minor difference in mobile SoC peak performance is irrelevant. Everyone knows Apple is able to create a much better product and their recent trillion dollar valuation reflects that, but arguments citing geeky review website don't do anything about falling sales for iPhones in India and abroad.