The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

tsk1979 · 25th October 2007, 23:10

It gets more and more complicated now.
I saw a few demo's and the Bravia V series(Live picture model with 12000:1 dynamic contrast ratio) is 54000, but image quality is comparable to the 47000 LG 32LC7R.
So here are the options again
1. Samsung R8(Bordeux) 51000
2. LG 32LC7R 47000
3. Panasonic 32LE7 + XBOX 360 + 2 Game CDs= 50000

Now you can understand my confusion. Paying the same price I get a XBOX 360 LCD.

I searched online for reviews, but its even more complicated than camera reviews! Please hellllp

jash · 26th October 2007, 06:45

Based on your previous post and current post, looks like the dealer is hardly selling for Panasonic model, so be careful. In terms of spec, of course Sony is better than other models you have listed. Why don't you visit few other shops (if you have not) who might be focusing on other brands, which will help you to understand the pros & cons of panasonic model.

Were you able to look at these models next to each other with your frequently watched channels played. if you are satisfied with Panasonic then go ahead with the purchase. don't make a decision with out the comparing next to each other at the same level & lighting.

Please share if any of you could access Panasonic India website for LCD Models

csentil · 26th October 2007, 10:35

Panasonic India thats the Panasonic site.

The Panasonic plasma sold in most shops are the 8th or 9th generation. these are sold for a lesser price. The new 10th generation plasma is available in panasonic showrooms.

they have a latest 32" LCD model which I found to be better than most other LCD's available. (Haven't checked out Sharp yet)

tsk1979 · 26th October 2007, 10:51

The XBOX offer is in a different shop.
The 32LE7 was introduced in the middle east in June 2007.
Its a lower spec model, but the response time of 5ms looks real good. Even if its half response time, actual response time will be 10ms, which is quite good.

Ideally I would like to get a nice LCD TV for around 35-38000(32").
contrast ratio does not make much of a difference since I won't be watching movies in dark rooms, so anything above 1000:1 (not dynamic, but active CR) will do.
Most of these LCD tvs have 1000+ contrast ratio(active) with Sony and LG boasting 2000:1.
Even if I watch in candlelight, a CR of 600:1 will be sufficient.

As for watching, me and my wife we both watched different TVs with same demo CD.Most LCD tvs have similar quality, with samsung bordeaux faster.

I think 100Hz will be a good idea. Is the R8 100Hz?

ST7677 · 26th October 2007, 11:07

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Ideally I would like to get a nice LCD TV for around 35-38000(32").

That was exactly what I had in my mind but then there are two problems...
1. The existing 32" LCD TV ranges from 45k upwards.
2. The existing LCD TV range do not have that nice feeling

Unless I get a really good deal, I would probably wait for another year for the above 2 points to get taken care of.

Samsung R8 series is not 100 Hz. By default most current TVs are not, unless it is explicitly stated.

As per some reviews Sharp is one TV which seems to be ahead of all in LCD race, however I haven;t seen one myself lately. If any one has seen it please post your reviews with best prices.

tsk1979 · 26th October 2007, 11:24

Panasonic 32LE7 can be had for that price. Its HD read, has 2 HDMI ports and image quality was good.
LG model was for around 46000, I think we can bargain to 44 maybe?

I am seriously contemplating getting an ordinary flat screen 29" and upgrading the computer with the cash saved.

ST7677 · 26th October 2007, 11:39

XBOX360 core console is the general offer from MS along with Panasonic...

Source: tootechie.com | XBox360 Out With Diwali Offers

Quote:

Xbox 360 offers a treat for Indian consumers with its “Super Stylish Super Saver offer” – bring home with you a Xbox 360 Core console, and two popular games - Viva Piñata & Forza Motorsport 2 with Panasonic LE7 & LX 70 32″ LCD TVs. The offer is available at Ezone and Big Bazaar Stores and rolls out from 20th October 2007.

This offer will set you back by around 50,000 and you’ll save over Rs 24,000 on the entire deal!
Next up are your run of the mill bundles that go something like this:
Buy an Xbox 360 Core console and get 2 blockbuster games worth Rs 4,405 absolutely free [Viva Piñata & Forza Motorsport 2]
Buy an Xbox 360 Pro console and get 4 blockbuster games worth Rs 8,614 absolutely free [Viva Piñata, Forza Motorsport 2, PGR 3 & Yuvraj Singh International cricket 2007].
These two mega offers roll out on 25th October 2007.
Although some of the offers are fairly appreciable,but games offered and bundled could have been much better.

ST7677 · 26th October 2007, 11:42

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Panasonic 32LE7 can be had for that price.

You mean the effective price including the Xbox???
Or is the dealer willing to just give off the TV and give cash discount against Xbox? I do not want an XBOX!

tsk1979 · 27th October 2007, 01:10

32LE7 is an old model and without xbox is around 39000, the 32LX70, which is a newer model is around 45000

I bought the LG 32LC7R, cost me 42500. Interest free EMI scheme with zero down payment.
Also got a free gift(a hand blender) worth around 1000 maybe(MRP)

Have basic cable at home, so won't really enjoy it unless for DVDs.
Older TV had gone Kaput, watched TV after months today.
I realized that we did not miss much by not watching TV for so long

appuchan · 27th October 2007, 20:45

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Originally Posted by ST7677

What is a good wide screen TV size recommended for 10-15ft viewing distance? Considering SD cable (85% viewing), DVD (15% viewing)

I have seen the charts available on the net, but I would like to hear from your own personal experiences.

32" seems to small, 40" seems to big, to me 37" seems right, but then not many mfgs have it in that size...

Even I have a similar requirement. I have checked out Hitachi 37 LD9000TA. I found it pretty good. Have not seen many other respectable brands in that size range. Plans to finalise next week.

ST7677 · 27th October 2007, 23:23

Yes, even I found 37" as best fit.

What is the price of Hitachi? Did you compare it against Samsung Bordeaux Art 37" LCD? Samsung 37" is available for 66k incl Tata Sky.

Do keep me informed, may be together we can squeeze a better discount

tsk1979 · 28th October 2007, 02:21

Image quality just rocks. I am using normal cable. Even DVD is really good, I am tempted to get a newer DVD player with component out, instead of simple aux out!

razor4077 · 28th October 2007, 02:46

Hey guys, this is a looong thread.... i got lost after the first 100!!
I'd like to buy a 32" LCD, and have narrowed it down to the following:
- Samsung Bordeaux Art: 49k (with Tata Sky)
- Sony Bravia S Series: 45k
- Sony Bravia V Series: 52k

It was between the Samsung and Sony S initially, but currently there is a heavy discount on the Sony V which has made me think about it.

Saw the whole gamut of LCDs placed next to each other, and Sony V seemed to be the best of the lot. The Samsung was also pretty good.
Now the question is, should I opt for the Samsung and get a Rs. 3000 Tata Sky box free, or should I think about one the Sony's?

And if there is another brand I should be considering, pls let me know.
Thanks!

khanak · 28th October 2007, 05:32

Considering the fact that you will keep the LCD for atleast 5 years, why compromise for 3,000 and a settop box?

razor4077 · 28th October 2007, 12:07

So are you saying that the Sony V is much superior to the Samsung?
Or does Samsung provide a similar quality LCD TV at a lesser price with more incentives (set-top box)?

25th October 2007, 23:10	#496
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,287 Times View My Garage	It gets more and more complicated now. I saw a few demo's and the Bravia V series(Live picture model with 12000:1 dynamic contrast ratio) is 54000, but image quality is comparable to the 47000 LG 32LC7R. So here are the options again 1. Samsung R8(Bordeux) 51000 2. LG 32LC7R 47000 3. Panasonic 32LE7 + XBOX 360 + 2 Game CDs= 50000 Now you can understand my confusion. Paying the same price I get a XBOX 360 LCD. I searched online for reviews, but its even more complicated than camera reviews! Please hellllp
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26th October 2007, 06:45	#497
jash Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Based on your previous post and current post, looks like the dealer is hardly selling for Panasonic model, so be careful. In terms of spec, of course Sony is better than other models you have listed. Why don't you visit few other shops (if you have not) who might be focusing on other brands, which will help you to understand the pros & cons of panasonic model. Were you able to look at these models next to each other with your frequently watched channels played. if you are satisfied with Panasonic then go ahead with the purchase. don't make a decision with out the comparing next to each other at the same level & lighting. Please share if any of you could access Panasonic India website for LCD Models
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26th October 2007, 10:35	#498
csentil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,350 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	Panasonic India thats the Panasonic site. The Panasonic plasma sold in most shops are the 8th or 9th generation. these are sold for a lesser price. The new 10th generation plasma is available in panasonic showrooms. they have a latest 32" LCD model which I found to be better than most other LCD's available. (Haven't checked out Sharp yet)
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26th October 2007, 10:51	#499
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,287 Times View My Garage	The XBOX offer is in a different shop. The 32LE7 was introduced in the middle east in June 2007. Its a lower spec model, but the response time of 5ms looks real good. Even if its half response time, actual response time will be 10ms, which is quite good. Ideally I would like to get a nice LCD TV for around 35-38000(32"). contrast ratio does not make much of a difference since I won't be watching movies in dark rooms, so anything above 1000:1 (not dynamic, but active CR) will do. Most of these LCD tvs have 1000+ contrast ratio(active) with Sony and LG boasting 2000:1. Even if I watch in candlelight, a CR of 600:1 will be sufficient. As for watching, me and my wife we both watched different TVs with same demo CD.Most LCD tvs have similar quality, with samsung bordeaux faster. I think 100Hz will be a good idea. Is the R8 100Hz?
	() Thanks

26th October 2007, 11:24	#501
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,287 Times View My Garage	Panasonic 32LE7 can be had for that price. Its HD read, has 2 HDMI ports and image quality was good. LG model was for around 46000, I think we can bargain to 44 maybe? I am seriously contemplating getting an ordinary flat screen 29" and upgrading the computer with the cash saved.
	() Thanks

27th October 2007, 01:10	#504
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,287 Times View My Garage	32LE7 is an old model and without xbox is around 39000, the 32LX70, which is a newer model is around 45000 I bought the LG 32LC7R, cost me 42500. Interest free EMI scheme with zero down payment. Also got a free gift(a hand blender) worth around 1000 maybe(MRP) Have basic cable at home, so won't really enjoy it unless for DVDs. Older TV had gone Kaput, watched TV after months today. I realized that we did not miss much by not watching TV for so long
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27th October 2007, 23:23	#506
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,058 Thanked: 73 Times	Yes, even I found 37" as best fit. What is the price of Hitachi? Did you compare it against Samsung Bordeaux Art 37" LCD? Samsung 37" is available for 66k incl Tata Sky. Do keep me informed, may be together we can squeeze a better discount
	() Thanks

28th October 2007, 02:21	#507
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,730 Thanked: 23,287 Times View My Garage	Image quality just rocks. I am using normal cable. Even DVD is really good, I am tempted to get a newer DVD player with component out, instead of simple aux out!
	() Thanks

28th October 2007, 02:46	#508
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 299 Times View My Garage	Hey guys, this is a looong thread.... i got lost after the first 100!! I'd like to buy a 32" LCD, and have narrowed it down to the following: - Samsung Bordeaux Art: 49k (with Tata Sky) - Sony Bravia S Series: 45k - Sony Bravia V Series: 52k It was between the Samsung and Sony S initially, but currently there is a heavy discount on the Sony V which has made me think about it. Saw the whole gamut of LCDs placed next to each other, and Sony V seemed to be the best of the lot. The Samsung was also pretty good. Now the question is, should I opt for the Samsung and get a Rs. 3000 Tata Sky box free, or should I think about one the Sony's? And if there is another brand I should be considering, pls let me know. Thanks!
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28th October 2007, 05:32	#509
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,810 Thanked: 298 Times View My Garage	Considering the fact that you will keep the LCD for atleast 5 years, why compromise for 3,000 and a settop box?
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28th October 2007, 12:07	#510
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,882 Thanked: 299 Times View My Garage	So are you saying that the Sony V is much superior to the Samsung? Or does Samsung provide a similar quality LCD TV at a lesser price with more incentives (set-top box)?
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