[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by Rodie09

Sharing a pic of the final invoice and a shot of the set up.

Looks great. I suggest that you put the box on the floor under the desk.

[R2D2]

So finally got the new build's components together. I will be reusing other components from the old build including the graphics card, PSU, drives (except a new NVMe SSD), case/cabinet and the CPU cooler an AIO Corsair H100i liquid cooler. New components:

a) CPU - Core i9 10980XE
b) MoBo - Asus ROG Strix X299 E Gaming II
c) RAM kit - GSkill 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM 64 GB (2 x 32 GB kits)
d) Samsung 980 Pro 500 GB NVME PCIE4 SSD (mobos is PCIE3, but kind of future proof)
e) Thermal paste - Noctua NT-H2 or Arctic MX5. I have syringes with Arctic MX4, Arctic Silver 5 and Noctua NT-H2 but thought of using fresh stock since I am upgrading after a very long time. Thermal paste has a limited life in the syringe..normally about 3 years.

Planned upgrades - my Viewsonic professional monitor from 24" to possibly a 27", 10G network cards, AX WiFi routers and 10G switches for the home LAN which has a CAT6 cable for a backhaul.

[greyhound82]

am building a workstation for development(Deep Learning, Spark) . Following are my spec

PROCESSOR :Intel Core i7 12700KF (12Core,20Threads,Upto 5.0 GHz)
MOTHERBOARD :Z690 Chipset ATX Motherboard
RAM :32GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS V 3600MHz DDR4
GRAPHIC CARD :GEFORCE RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6
SSD : 1TB GEN 4 M.2 NVME ADATA XPG S70 (Read/Write speeds upto 7400/6800MBps)
HDD :None
POWERSUPPLY : 850 Watt Gold Fully Modular PSU
CPU COOLER : 360mm AIO liquid Cooler
CABINET :Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Black Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case

The quote is 210,000/-


Is the power supply and chipset enough for one more GPU in the future( mostly a 3090). Any suggestions are welcome

[CzechItaliaMoto]

Originally Posted by greyhound82

am building a workstation for development(Deep Learning, Spark) . Following are my spec

PROCESSOR :Intel Core i7 12700KF (12Core,20Threads,Upto 5.0 GHz)
MOTHERBOARD :Z690 Chipset ATX Motherboard
RAM :32GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS V 3600MHz DDR4
GRAPHIC CARD :GEFORCE RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6
SSD : 1TB GEN 4 M.2 NVME ADATA XPG S70 (Read/Write speeds upto 7400/6800MBps)
HDD :None
POWERSUPPLY : 850 Watt Gold Fully Modular PSU
CPU COOLER : 360mm AIO liquid Cooler
CABINET :Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Black Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case

The quote is 210,000/-


Is the power supply and chipset enough for one more GPU in the future( mostly a 3090). Any suggestions are welcome

Would recommend going for a 1200W or higher to be on the safer side if you are planning to add a 3090 in the future.

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by greyhound82

Is the power supply and chipset enough for one more GPU in the future( mostly a 3090). Any suggestions are welcome

BTW that's a Core i9 not an i7 . I am not sure which make and model of Z690 motherboard you have purchased. A suggestion is a Z690 DDR5 capable mobo..funds permitting of course as that will more of less make it relatively future proof. There's not too much of a difference between DDR4 and 5 performance wise as of now but that would change in favour of the new type of RAM as it always does with the latest technology. Multi card capability is not just dependent on the chipset but also the graphics card and motherboard too. Maybe you can ask your system builder about which board it is and if it supports multiple cards. Also, I'd suggest upping the PSU capacity to at least 1000W or even 1200/1300W in case you want to fit 2 or more graphics cards. They are power hungry under load.

[mayukh42]

Those specs without the GPU total to about 1.1L. Is the RTX 3060 costing 1L?

If you want another GPU, consider a motherboard where there are 2 PCIE slots at full bandwidth.

And go for a 1000W/ 1200W PSU as others suggested.

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by mayukh42

Those specs without the GPU total to about 1.1L. Is the RTX 3060 costing 1L?

Depending on the brand and tuning it's about 60-70K online.

If you want another GPU, consider a motherboard where there are 2 PCIE slots at full bandwidth.

Good point.

[greyhound82]

Originally Posted by CzechItaliaMoto

Would recommend going for a 1200W or higher to be on the safer side if you are planning to add a 3090 in the future.

Thanks will do.

Originally Posted by R2D2

BTW that's a Core i9 not an i7 . I am not sure which make and model of Z690 motherboard you have purchased. A suggestion is a Z690 DDR5 capable mobo..funds permitting of course as that will more of less make it relatively future proof.

the processor is core i7. please see the link
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/134595/intel-core-i712700kf-processor-25m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html

thanks will take that in to account and will upgrade

Originally Posted by mayukh42

Those specs without the GPU total to about 1.1L. Is the RTX 3060 costing 1L?

If you want another GPU, consider a motherboard where there are 2 PCIE slots at full bandwidth.

And go for a 1000W/ 1200W PSU as others suggested.

I can delay the purchase of GPU for another couple of months and do you think this will reduce the price. Nvidia released 3060 with 30k and currently the retail price is around 80 - 90k

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by greyhound82

the processor is core i7.

My bad..I read that as the 12900KF (Core i9) not 12700KF (Core i7). IMO you should get the Core i9.

I can delay the purchase of GPU for another couple of months and do you think this will reduce the price. Nvidia released 3060 with 30k and currently the retail price is around 80 - 90k

If you believe a good GPU is essential for your workflow then go in for it by all means. Which brand model and tuning you need depends on your budget and use case/requirement. Prices of GPUs do decrease but they take time (6-12 months) especially for new models.

[AnandB]

1000w is well sufficient for a 3090. Speaking from experience of using one.

[Aroy]

If it is not really urgent, delay buying the "expensive" GPU for now. If you have two slots for GPU, I suggest

1. Get Nvidia Quadro
https://www.amazon.in/PNY-Nvidia-Qua...s%2C292&sr=1-6

This is quite good card and can coexist with other cards.

2. Get the card of your choice once the prices stabilise.

[2500cc]

Originally Posted by greyhound82

am building a workstation for development(Deep Learning, Spark) . Following are my spec

SSD : 1TB GEN 4 M.2 NVME ADATA XPG S70 (Read/Write speeds upto 7400/6800MBps)

Would suggest you buy 2-3 disks, 1 just for the OS and the others for your data. So incase of OS corruption, your data remains intact.

[Aroy]

Originally Posted by 2500cc

Would suggest you buy 2-3 disks, 1 just for the OS and the others for your data. So incase of OS corruption, your data remains intact.

I agree. The minimum you should do is to set up two disk mirror for your crucial data. I have 6 HDD in my machine and keep my data separate from the OS,so that when ever OS needs to be reinstalled (6 times in the last 12 years of this machine) your data is not affected.

Further keep a few external 2/3/4 TB disks for backing up your data.

One thing that few people realise is the chances of data corruption due to random memory errors. If your calculation cycles are involved and long (as in CFD and some financial models) you will never realise when the errors crept in due to memory errors. That is why in such critical applications ECC memory is the standard requirement.

Unfortunately in the Intel line up only Xeons support ECC (Itanium has gone). That is why my set up is Dual Xeon, and in future I will replace my very old system with another Xeon based one.

[dragonfire]

Am looking for a basic desktop to complement my 32 inch monitor which I generally use with my work laptop. Not because I really need another computer (have a personal laptop) but could use one to watch movies and do some playing around. I would like it to be a mini PC as there is hardly any space left on my desk after the 32 incher took it all, but that's not a deal breaker because it can always go on the floor. Don't want to spend a lot cos it's mostly going to lay there idle (even the laptop lies there idle most of the time).

Now to the questions:

1. Should I look for a prebuilt tower/miniPC or buy the parts and assemble one?
2. There are a lot of refurbished minPCs (dell, lenovo etc) with Windows and Office available in Amazon for a song (https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B09G6ZHSSJ). Has anybody any experience with those? How good are they?
3. If I buy parts and assemble, what would be a good configuration (proc, RAM, SSD, graphics) that could be bought for 25-30K?

Thanks in advance.

[mayukh42]

Originally Posted by dragonfire

it can always go on the floor

Would suggest not to put the case on floor, it will attract more dust. And certainly not if there is a carpet, as it will block airflow.

Originally Posted by dragonfire

1. Should I look for a prebuilt tower/miniPC or buy the parts and assemble one?

Pre-built towers won't have much upgradability, and if you are playing around with a PC, chances are you will want to upgrade in future

Originally Posted by dragonfire

2. There are a lot of refurbished minPCs (dell, lenovo etc) with Windows and Office available in Amazon for a song (https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B09G6ZHSSJ). Has anybody any experience with those? How good are they?

They have same disadvantages of #1, and added risk of reburbished parts. Though I don't have experience with them.

Originally Posted by dragonfire

3. If I buy parts and assemble, what would be a good configuration (proc, RAM, SSD, graphics) that could be bought for 25-30K?

Intel 12100 (non-F): 12k
H610 MB: 7k
RAM 8GB: 3k
PSU 550W: 3.5k
Case: 3k
SSD: 2.5k

Total: 31k

We can reduce by up to 2-3k if you go for 10th gen CPUs, but they have less upgradability.

Unfortunately, GPU have to wait for now. That non-F cpu will get you by for some time, but dont expect to play games less than 7-8 years old.