30th October 2009, 19:15 | #1861 |
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Senior - BHPian | Yeah maven, its common. Canon 40D metering seems pretty much on the dot compared to some of the older canon bodies I handled in the past (friends) but I could be wrong as this is my first body. Quote:
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31st October 2009, 12:55 | #1863 |
Senior - BHPian | The Sigma APO HSM OS lenses are equally comparable to Canon USM IS or Nikon VR SWM glasses and cheaper too. |
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31st October 2009, 13:31 | #1864 | |
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But weather sealing can't be the only criteria to buy a camera system, right? For me it's availability of the lenses that I can put my hands on. And I've to tell one thing, I got some really mouth watering deals when I bought few of my lenses( talking about the 2nd hand one). For slight drizzles and rains I use a rain cover with my not so weather sealed cameras (350d has no weather sealing and 40D is sealed only for shutter and battery compartment). Cheap and works for me, yeah little awkward it looks but that's ok. Last edited by kaushik_s : 31st October 2009 at 13:32. | |
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3rd November 2009, 04:16 | #1865 | |
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Personally i had beer spilled on my D3+70-200mm, i just washed it under tap and its all fine. | |
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3rd November 2009, 05:28 | #1866 | |||||||||||
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Everyone is going to take me wrong in sense to Canon 50mm f1.8 mk2. So i am going to layout the comparison in terms of quality and quality only. I bet Rs.10L you can run a Safari over Nikon 50mm f1.8/Zeiss f1.4 and these can still be used after a bit of cleaning and removing filter ring. Canon, well just drop it from 5feet and it comes out in 2 parts. Its coming from experience, if required i can put pictures of a D3+50mm after being run over by a 2 tonne vehicle. Quote:
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Yes Astro photography needs more time and sittings but truthfully no one can say one field of photography is difficult compared to others. I personally do Landscapes, Fashion, Portraits, Product Shoots and each have there own issues and need appropriate equipment. For example, being in Astrophotography you are stuck in a field if you want clear night shots like "Milky Way","Horse Head Nebula", you need a wide angle lens, something like Sigma 10-20mm, and on the other hand if you want to take images of distant galaxies or planets, you will need 300mm f2.8/f4`s and sometimes even 400mm/500mm primes and then comes stacking, same shot again and again and again. I have seen few amazing images with 6x15minx15min shots. For Portrait, i can get by just 85mm f1.2 and 50mm f1.2 but i need so many lights/strobes and its not fun but the end result is simply amazing. For product shots, err... well just watch Hasselblad videos on YOUTUBE with Bugati Veryon shoot and you will realise the time spent. And i can show you what a Nikon 200-400mm f4 can do, or for that matter Canon 400mm f2.8 can do. What`s your point??? I am asking since you cannot compare a camera technique and final image quality just by price and reach. If you have not grown out of S3Is yet then there is no real reason to buy a new camera unless you specifically want higher pixels. Then source S5is or Sx series from Canon. But ideally you don`t need to get another camera if you havn`t grown out of s3is yet. Hell i still use my Canon A80 from a decade ago. Quote:
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I don`t get the point comparing DECENT P&S to BASIC DSLR. Its like comparing best sports car to BASIC formula one car. Its not a direct comparison. Please compare DECENT P&S to DECENT DSLR and basic P&S to BASIC DSLR and you will realise the real difference, Quote:
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1. Once, you jump into advanced research and optics, you will realise, HIGHER the PIXEL density, LOWER is the wasted space on the sensor (GOOGLE FOVEON SENSOR), hence HIGHER ability to capture detail. 2. One word, LX3, it has a f2.0 lens while i don`t beleive any of the kit lenses are above f3.5, please correct me if i am wrong. Only cheap faster lens that an average person can get is 50mm f1.8`s. Otherwise there are Zeiss and LEica lenses available that go upto f0.9 but they are hardly affordable for an averagre person. To be precise even with a huge budget you cannot afford more than f2.8 lenses for DSLR`s, biggest reason being these are not manufactured, bar Canon 200mm f1.8 Now why ars DSLR`s better than P&S:- 1. Well first of all CONTROLS, all of the DSLR`s (Except Leica S2) have more controls directly with dedicated buttons, and all have them through menus while those controls are almost missing in P&S. 2. ISO, DSLR`s can produce pictures usable at ISO`s that NO P&S can achieve. 3. Burst rate, all DSLR have higher burst rate (FPS) than P&S`s (Except Casio Ex-f1) 4. Battery, DSLR`s have higher battery capacity and last way longer than any P&S 5. Lenses, this is the biggest benefit of a DSLR, you can change a lensaccording to your need. NO P&S CAN BE USED TO ACHIEVE THE RESULTS OF TILT-SHIFT OR PERSPECTIVE-CONTROL LENSES. Quote:
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3rd November 2009, 08:40 | #1867 | ||
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Olympus Zuiko Digital 50mm F2.0 Macro Lens Review: 4. Conclusion & samples: Digital Photography Review Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm 1:2.8-4.0 SWD Lens Review: 4. Conclusion & samples: Digital Photography Review Quote:
Why compromise? I never worry of dust, water, humidity, moisture, fungus, etc. Never needed to clean the sensor either. | ||
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3rd November 2009, 08:51 | #1868 | |
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And I too feel the Sigma 70-300, is slow and noisy, and the images lack sharpness. The canon 55-250is or nikon 55-200vr are better options. Last edited by bmw_m5_titus : 3rd November 2009 at 08:59. | |
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3rd November 2009, 11:22 | #1869 | ||
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But you cant keep bracketing shots to take a final HDR image where only 1 image is possible. I have used the S5 for a month and yes the S5 was better than the equivalent d200 and the Canons of its time, but still was not as good as film for dynamic range. I have not used any camera later than the D200 so cant comment if the newer sensors are any better in this regard. | ||
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3rd November 2009, 11:35 | #1870 | |||||
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A normal lens produces a field of view that is similar to human vision. The diagonal of the image plane is typically used as the reference for field of view determination. A normal lens has a focal length that is approximately equal to the diagonal measurement of the image plane. When the focal length is equal to the diagonal measurement it produces a diagonal field of view of approximately 53degree which is similar to human vision. For 35mm film (24/36) the diagonal measurement is 43.27mm (roughly). 50mm is close to this measurement so it is considered a normal lens. A 50mm lens produces a 47degree diagonal field of view that is close to 53 degree. Though human field of view is about 180 degree by 120 degree, we cannot cover that area in one go. It’s our brain that computes and gives us an apparent vision. A very simple test can be done by covering or closing one eye. Another reason for not to cover 180 degree is human’s nose bridge. | |||||
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3rd November 2009, 11:35 | #1871 | |
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So while the LX3 may not compare well to the 10000$ lens, it can nicely compete with budget SLR lenses. | |
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3rd November 2009, 12:17 | #1873 |
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| You guys are too much, who will let a car run over lenses! I get peeved even with minor scratch's on the hood! But one thing i have learned with photography is, money talks! atleast in the equipment side. The difference very evident once you view the shots on a big apple screen |
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3rd November 2009, 12:41 | #1874 |
Senior - BHPian | Just a re-assessment and I realized that both 500D and D90 i was targeting are too far from my budget for at-least 2 years. Not sure what to do, should I stay with my P&S or look out for some ultra budget DSLR. How is Canon 1000D, it will cost me around 28K with 18-55mm IS Lens. Should I look for such options or wait to buy a better body. This will be my first DSLR |
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Also i believe K7 can do in camera HDR so easier for someone just starting. I have used D3/D3x/D700/D300 and dynamic range has improved vastly. You can check out sensor DxOMark Score can be checked here Quote:
At current price for Canon 50mm f1.8 Mk2 is $180AUD and for Nikon 50mm f1.8 is $138AUD. So they fall in same bracket. Quote:
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Its not an expensive system but in the end every single Rupree makes a big different when manufacturers are selling millions of lenses. And cost is reduced for DSLR body since less parts are used and body is not few mm compact but that means all lenses are atleast 3-4mm longer and cost more. Here`s an example or EMD from 50mm f1.8 Mk2. Here`s the EMD installed on the controller from 50mm f1.8 Mk2. You can also see focussing motor and counter setup. Also focus switch is visibleon the side. Here`s a controller make by Letus. Letus manufacturers 35mm DOF adapters for use on camcorders/handycams, there adapters use regular 35mm lenses. Since some people like to use lenses like canon 85mm f1.2 L, they need external setup to control apeture. This controller lets you choose the apeture required manually. Quote:
Sorry i cheated, its from Wikipedia. Are you calculating in Stereoscopic FOV?? But 50mm is considered a normal lens for Full frame and 35mm for 1.5crop. Quote:
Nothing else effects APETURE in a lens that itself. Please read above to see what an APETURE looks like. APETURE is a PHYSICAL thing-maximum SIZE of the hole in the lens to let the light pass through which doesn`t gets affected by anything else. ISO is the sensitivity of the FILM/SENSOR Seriously is it that hard of a topic to understand APETURE and F-no. ?? Quote:
My Nikon 50mm f1.8 Survived 2Tonne vehicle runover, actually vehicle stopped on d3+50mm for around 2-3 minutes, till we were able to push and roll it over. 50mm still works and is still my favourite lens which D3 is......errrr......DEAD. Zeis and Leica lenses can actually take quite a bit of beating. Quote:
Money is nothing, Photography is my hobby and i have spent pretty much whatever was required on it. I am never going to look back at the money i spent otherwise i would start crying. To be honest if i am taking landscape shots, i can get same image from Nikon 70-300mm G f4-5.6 and from Nikon 300mm f2.8 VR. One cost me $105 second hand while other cost me $9700 brand new. But when it comes to day shots at MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground), its a different matter, 70-300mm will still be confiring focus while with 300mm f2.8, i would have taken 7-10 shots. Here`s are the image of Nikon 50mm f1.8 after being run over by 2 tonne vehicle and getting repaired. Internal Pancake assembly with all the elements and Apeture sealed off from dust and moisture. Only entry here is a slight cavity where internal level for APETURE control goes in. Its not visible in any of the images i have linked. Slight difference in the back of the lens, Ideally it should be right in the center but its around 0.4mm off the centre but still within limits. There is no Front/Back Focus issues with the lens, its performing perfectly fine. Front filter ring completley removed after being damaged and hindering in the smooth focusing. I only had a plier handy, so i just bent it off. Later i took a Xacto knife and tried to cut it off smoothly. I am still trying to get some time to file it down and refill it with black rubber cement to make it one off lens. Whole lens disassembled and being cleaned, here you can see the screw based design i was talking about above. Close up of the front while being cleaned. You can see the dust collected in the front. I will upload D3`s images later on. Only issue left now is that i cannot use this adapter. It took me a fair while to get this lens element. Its sole job is to provide macro capability to the lens. Here it is mounted in special spacer. Basically a 4mm spacer that screws onto 52mm thread and then has a 52mm thread to mount 52mm filters in front. Space was originally developed as a part for custom extension tubes with controllable extension but that`s another story. I used bluetack to secure the element inside the spacer which was later replaced with optical cement after final tests. Now its just a piece of glass left with me and i cannot use it till i buy another 50mm f1.8 Sorry if i was rude to anyone here, please take it as me being ignorant in my youth. Thanks Last edited by Jaggu : 3rd November 2009 at 14:36. Reason: Please host the pictures directly to TBHP, external hosting is NOT allowed. Refer Announcements section. Thanks | |||||||||||
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