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Old 21st May 2012, 19:29   #361
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How do you maintain the throttle and rudders on the 360 controller? I am also using the Logitech Extreme.
Hi im on logitech extreme 3d pro but i mostly use the xbox controller now as it offer easier control. Bit long procedure but ive tried to include all my controls as far as possible. Hope this helps.

Turn your controller on, go into FSX, settings, controls, and then buttons/keys.
Here's my control setup: Brakes (apply left) = left thumb (Repeat) / Brakes (apply right) = right thumb (Repeat) / Brakes (apply/release) A (Repeat) / Elevator trim (down) = D pad up (Repeat) / Elevator trim (up) = D pad down (Repeat) / Flaps (extend incr.) = B / Flaps (retract incr.) = X / Landing gear (extend/retract) = Y / Spoilers (extend/retract) = Back button / Throttle (cut) = D pad right / Throttle (decrease) = left shoulder (Repeat) / Throttle (increase) = right shoulder (Repeat) / View (next category) = Start / War Emergency Power = D pad left.

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Hi friends, the FS bug has bit me too! And I have ordered FSX.
What price did you pay for it? If you really want to enjoy flight sim get a headset with mic and a controller. And fly with other pilots online just like in real world.
Logitech controllers are reliable but are a bit costly. Since you ordered fsx already id recommend you to get the xbox 360 controller as its pretty cheap at 1500 bucks and also you can use it in other games and your xbox too. Helps me easily switch games as im continuously on the same controller.

Fs9 was also a very good option especially if you get proper addons then the scenery looks too good. Do get real environment xtreme for fsx then your graphics look as close to the real world.
Plus default airports in fsx suck in quality. Flytampa and Orbx make some of the best looking airports for fsx. But they sure cost a lot. Most of the videos that you see online use these airports.

Your graphics card should suffice. If you do start to love fsx and want more better graphics update your card to ati radeon 6xxx series or the nvida gtx5xx series. In todays market cards worth above 15k should do fine. Just do a bit of research.

BEWARE!! Fsx is a hobby just like collecting scale models and your expenses can get higher in pursuit of the best quality graphics and best system to play it on. People spend thousands of dollars to get the most accurate sim just like a real plane.

A very good controller other than logitech is Saitek. They make all series of flight controls such as pedals levers joysticks et al.

Also get FSNav and FSInn to fly around the world in real world conditions along with people online. These softwares are free and help you to get onto servers with fs players. Also get the teamspeak 3 client. Its for chatting and receiving atc instructions when flying with friends. All these are free. Atc radar is also a free software to help you when you wanto play the radar man.

I fly on Aeronet 24/7 server and a few other servers with friends.

You can pm me with your queries.

Oh and one last thing dont use the gamespy multiplayer option. Its a waste of time.
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For joysticks, look here( ignore the racing wheels): Joystick Accessories: Gamingconsole Accessories List: Flipkart.com.
I would suggest to avoid Genius joysticks. They tend to go bad soon and start making funny noises( springs controlling the axis fail, which makes you to pull or push harder than you actually should).
Guys, I just found out that I have an old and unused (till now!) Logitech joystick lying at home.

But the problem is it has the old 15 pin MIDI connector and not the USB one. So, I am unable to connect it to my PC.

Any solutions?

Yes, I am a noob and sorry for that.

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Logitech controllers are reliable but are a bit costly. Since you ordered fsx already id recommend you to get the xbox 360 controller as its pretty cheap at 1500 bucks and also you can use it in other games and your xbox too. Helps me easily switch games as im continuously on the same controller.

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Oh and one last thing dont use the gamespy multiplayer option. Its a waste of time.
Thanks a lot for all your tips bro. I will surely PM you in case of any queries. Can you help me with the above query?

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Thanks a lot for all your tips bro. I will surely PM you in case of any queries. Can you help me with the above query?


Nope unfortunately i cant unless you get a connector or cut up the wires and convert it to a usb cable. It was the same for me. I have a frontech joystick bought during my school days but now its lying around as no connectors are there.
Im sure some local guy can do a diy on that for you. Better get a new joystick. Its best to buy an xbox controller. You will be using it for every other game. And it costs less than a joystick and compatible with both pc and xbox games.
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I'm a big fan of F1, and am currently playing F1-2011 online. I'd love to race with fellow Team-BHPians online if you're playing the game as well. Please do let me know. I go with the nickname 'Vik Kryptonite'.

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Diablo 3 anyone?

Anyone here playing Diablo 3? I couldn't wait any longer so bought the digital copy and have started playing it. Though I don't play computer games anymore, I wanted to play this badly as I have warm memories of playing Diablo and Diablo 2 all those years ago!

I still have some saved games of Diablo 1 from 2002! Favourite class - Barbarian. No need to think too much, all brawn!!
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For your requirement get Microsoft Flight. Its a new version which is available for free download from the site.
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If graphics are not an issue, try this : http://www.ysflight.com/. It is free.
Microsoft FS X is great but costs a bomb, but is worth the price. For lower end PCs, Microsoft FS 2004/9 works great and is comparatively cheaper too. But learning curve on these can be steep for some.

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Get a good joystick too. Half the fun in lying in a Flight sim is using a joystick.
Thank you friends. I got my copy of FS X yesterday and spent the whole evening playing it. I got it at an offer price of Rs. 600/- from Flipkart.

The game is amazing. I just wish the graphics were better but no complaints.

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Yes, I even got a joystick for it -

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Why Logitech Attack 3? Because it was the cheapest Joystick available with some good reviews. I got it a wee bit cheaper from the local store than Flipkart.

I did try the Xbox controller but was not comfortable with it.

The only flaws I noticed with the joystick is -

1) FSX's guide says that the top button of the joystick is to look around in the game. Not working in my case.

2) After a turn, when I leave the joystick, I was expecting the aircraft to self level itself. That does not happen. I have to turn the joystick to the opposite side to level the aircraft.

All in all, though I have not yet mastered the flying skills, I am enjoying the game.

@ skanchan95:


Special thanks to you buddy for informing me about the Flipkart deal. I got the package in 2 days flat! Flipkart's service is awesome.

Also, I agree to you that the joystick does make it a whole lot better to play. Cheers.
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Also, I agree to you that the joystick does make it a whole lot better to play. Cheers.
You need to recalibrate your joystick. Go to control panel-> devices and select the joystick and recalibrate it. Or else use the logitech calibration tool.

About xbox controller, yes at the beginning it seems a bit difficult but once you get used to it its very easy.

Download freeware addons for fsx. Your sceneries will start to look more real. Real environment extreme is one such add on but you need to pay for it.

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The game is amazing. I just wish the graphics were better but no complaints.
Do set all graphics options to maximum and at the highest resolution your monitor can support..


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Why Logitech Attack 3? Because it was the cheapest Joystick available with some good reviews. I got it a wee bit cheaper from the local store than Flipkart.
I have the same stick. Been using it for the past two years. Its a cheap but good and sturdy joystick


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The only flaws I noticed with the joystick is -

1) FSX's guide says that the top button of the joystick is to look around in the game. Not working in my case.
It is called the Hat or PoV(Point of View) switch and useful for looking around the cockpit. The Attack 3 does not have it.
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It is useful in air combat sims where it is essential to keep an eye on your enemy all the time. You lose him, he's gonna be on your six and you'll end up being a smokin' hole in the ground.
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All in all, though I have not yet mastered the flying skills, I am enjoying the game.

@ skanchan95:


Special thanks to you buddy for informing me about the Flipkart deal. I got the package in 2 days flat! Flipkart's service is awesome.

Also, I agree to you that the joystick does make it a whole lot better to play. Cheers.
My pleasure buddy and glad that I could be of help. Be patient and and gentle on the stick, if you try wrestling with the controls specially on the heavies like Boeings & the Airbuses, you will end up losing control and crashing. There are tons of fun things to learn. Do look at FSX tutorials on youtube. The procedures are similar to what real pilots do.

This is what my Falcon 4.0 logbook looks like after nearly 10 years of flying the sim. So be patient, its a fun thing to play once you have acquired mastery over it.


Have fun "Learning to Fly" and welcome to a very small but elite club of virtual pilots.

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You need to recalibrate your joystick. Go to control panel-> devices and select the joystick and recalibrate it. Or else use the logitech calibration tool.
Thank you, I will do that.

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Download freeware addons for fsx. Your sceneries will start to look more real. Real environment extreme is one such add on but you need to pay for it.
Any links from where I can get these freeware addons?

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Do set all graphics options to maximum and at the highest resolution your monitor can support..
Done that!

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I have the same stick. Been using it for the past two years. Its a cheap but good and sturdy joystick
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It is called the Hat or PoV(Point of View) switch and useful for looking around the cockpit. The Attack 3 does not have it.
No wonder. And I was searching for the "POV" button all night!

I have reconfigured the buttons on the Joystick and now flying is a bit more convenient.

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My pleasure buddy and glad that I could be of help. Be patient and and gentle on the stick, if you try wrestling with the controls specially on the heavies like Boeings & the Airbuses, you will end up losing control and crashing.
I did try landing a Airbus and went way off the runway. However, I dint crash!



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There are tons of fun things to learn. Do look at FSX tutorials on Youtube. The procedures are similar to what real pilots do.
One doubt - Do we have to read and mug up all the written material given on the home page of the game?

I mean, I did go through all the 'Tutorials' in the 'Missions' menu, but they have not explained how to use many features, mainly Autopilot.

And one more thing, suppose I am flying an Airbus from ABC airport to XYZ airport and the flight time is 45 minutes. Do I have to sit and play for the entire 45 minutes? Cant I just skip to the last waypoint, that is, just before the landing...? Flying endlessly for 45 minutes can be quite boring.

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This is what my Falcon 4.0 logbook looks like after nearly 10 years of flying the sim. So be patient, its a fun thing to play once you have acquired mastery over it.


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Any links from where I can get these freeware addons?

And one more thing, suppose I am flying an Airbus from ABC airport to XYZ airport and the flight time is 45 minutes. Do I have to sit and play for the entire 45 minutes? Cant I just skip to the last waypoint, that is, just before the landing...? Flying endlessly for 45 minutes can be quite boring.
Get ultimate traffic x or world of ai to make your fsx experience better. Fsx missions are quite boring and its better on multiplayer when you have people joining you. Better finish the learning lessions mentioned below and start flying multiplayer. Or you can just accelerate your simulation rate to speed up the game

For free aircraft go to facebook page of POSKY which is Skyspirit2011 that give you all the details from where to download their aircraft. Avsim.com is also another resource.

No you dont need to mug up everything as you will learn by experience which is much easier as its a flight sim and not an actual multimilion dollar airplane in which you should be thorough before even getting into the cockpit.

To make things easy for you go through the flying lessons where rod machado gives you intruction one by one. That helps immensely especially when you fly jets. But learn from the first lesson. It may take a whole day but at the end of it you will be an expert.

Also if you want real life experience type of planes get PMDG planes. They cost a bomb but they are modelled completely on real life planes. And when you do get the pmdg planes just buy angle of attack training videos. You definitely need them in case you dont want to read through long and extensive manuals.

Aircrafts payware
1. PMDG
2.iFly
3.quality wings
4.cls
5.level d simulation
6. Wilco

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1. Skyspirit 2010
2. Skyspirit 2011
3. Avsim.com

Dont forget to fly in some of the most famous airports in the world. St Marteen, st Barth, gibraltar.

Airport developers
1. Flytampa
2. Uk2000
3. Orbx

@skanchan95 is there a way to get falcon 4.0 now? Got an impressive record there mate.

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Thats a ton of information. Thanks mate.

I guess I will have to spend whole of this coming Sunday towards FSX. I will surely download the freewares you mentioned.

By the way, one query still remains - is there any way to skip a long flight to the last waypoint or do we have to fly for that much minutes?
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Thats a ton of information. Thanks mate.

I guess I will have to spend whole of this coming Sunday towards FSX. I will surely download the freewares you mentioned.

By the way, one query still remains - is there any way to skip a long flight to the last waypoint or do we have to fly for that much minutes?
Ive answered that too in the second paragraph i guess. You need to press the win key when in flight and click the simulation rate option. Increase it to increase your sim rate so that 40 minutes mission can be finished in 5 minutes.

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One doubt - Do we have to read and mug up all the written material given on the home page of the game?
Not necessary. Do also try "missions", where your first officer/co-pilot tells you what to do. It will also help you to get familiar with the cockpit instruments and commands.

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I mean, I did go through all the 'Tutorials' in the 'Missions' menu, but they have not explained how to use many features, mainly Autopilot.
Unfortunately I am not at home and my FS X install is on my other laptop which I left back home. I would have shown you by means of screenshots how to activate and program autopilot.

You can program and configure Autopilot to control your heading, speed, altitude, climb/descent rate etc, you can even make the aircraft land using AP using ILS(Instrument Landing System).

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And one more thing, suppose I am flying an Airbus from ABC airport to XYZ airport and the flight time is 45 minutes. Do I have to sit and play for the entire 45 minutes? Cant I just skip to the last waypoint, that is, just before the landing...? Flying endlessly for 45 minutes can be quite boring.
As Parthasarathig mentioned, there is a time acceleration mode. There is only negative in it though, when flying on a planned IFR flight using the Flight PLanner, you will be guided by ATCs on your flight path( they will tell you change you heading ,altitude and guide you to make a safe landing at your destination). You will have acknowledge the ATC and fly as per ATC's instructions or else ATC services will be terminated and you will have to find your destination & find you destination and land on your own.

One work around is to enable time acceleration mode, when the ATC buzzes you, slow down to normal rate. Do as ATC commands you to. Then set time acceleration mode again until the next ATC command.

What happens in an IFR flight is that the Origin ATC clears you for take off and you climb out. The ATC instructs you to turn to a heading and climb to a certain altitude. Once at that altitude, you level out and you can request an increase to cruise at a higher altitude( ATC may command you to change your heading periodically). You will also be asked to switch frequences and contact other ATCs(which the computer/your first officer will do). Nearing your destination, the ATC will instruct you to descend systematically and guide you to the runway vicinity, after which you have to land visually(line up your aircraft for the approach) or using ILS(Instrument Landing System, after programming the destination runway ILS frequency).

Also suggest you look and search for FSX videos on youtube. There are many tutorials on youtube. For e.,g, if you want to know how to lading using ILS search for the topic on Youtube "FSX ILS landing".

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@skanchan95 is there a way to get falcon 4.0 now? Got an impressive record there mate.

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Thanks. As you can see, Falcon 4.0 is quite an old sim that was developed way back in the late 90s. Despite its age, It has evolved into one of the best combat flight simulators(F-16) both graphics wise and in simulating an F-16s radar and weapon systems, thanks to a very dedicated fan following and a huge development community.

Finding the old Falcon 4.0 CD/DVD may be difficult now. Though on e-bay.in, "Falcon 4.0 : Allied Force" was available until recently, which I had grabbed( F4: Allied Force is not moddable or compatible with Old Falcon 4.0 addons).

Your best bet would be amazon. Stay away from second hand CDs, as there have been reports on the forums of how some old second hand CDs were too scratched up to be used now. If you find it difficult finding one, let me know, I will burn a copy and send it over .

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Not necessary. Do also try "missions", where your first officer/co-pilot tells you what to do. It will also help you to get familiar with the cockpit instruments and commands.
Yes, it was a joy flying the Airbus in the mission tutorials.

I did exactly as mentioned and it was awesome. Thanks!

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Unfortunately I am not at home and my FS X install is on my other laptop which I left back home. I would have shown you by means of screenshots how to activate and program autopilot.
That's okay buddy...

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You can program and configure Autopilot to control your heading, speed, altitude, climb/descent rate etc, you can even make the aircraft land using AP using ILS(Instrument Landing System).
Yes, I did learn how to use the Autopilot. The flight does turn on it's own and even maintains the altitude I have set.

There are two options in front of me - one says 'Nav' and other says 'GPS'. I always keep it at 'GPS'. I dont know what Nav does!

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As Parthasarathig mentioned, there is a time acceleration mode. There is only negative in it though, when flying on a planned IFR flight using the Flight PLanner, you will be guided by ATCs on your flight path( they will tell you change you heading ,altitude and guide you to make a safe landing at your destination). You will have acknowledge the ATC and fly as per ATC's instructions or else ATC services will be terminated and you will have to find your destination & find you destination and land on your own.
This was one problem when I was flying in the Free Flight mode. I started a Mumbai to Goa flight () and I was expecting the ATC to give me runway and take off clearance and then guide me to the correct altitude. But I dint hear anything from the ATC and I had to totally rely on the GPS to get to Goa. Which took away half of the fun...

Yes, I was in VFR mode (Visual flight something something), so does that mean I have to select IFR mode?

Also, whenever I fly in the missions, I see a small round heading indicator on the top left of the screen which shows the arrow to where I am supposed to head and the distance left to that checkpoint. Even that is missing in the free flight mode.

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What happens in an IFR flight is that the Origin ATC clears you for take off and you climb out. The ATC instructs you to turn to a heading and climb to a certain altitude.
If I am in Autopilot, the joystick wont work. So you mean I have to set the heading in the Autopilot?

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Once at that altitude, you level out and you can request an increase to cruise at a higher altitude( ATC may command you to change your heading periodically).
Err, I will have to read the manual on how to contact the ATC! Never done that...

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Nearing your destination, the ATC will instruct you to descend systematically and guide you to the runway vicinity, after which you have to land visually(line up your aircraft for the approach) or using ILS(Instrument Landing System, after programming the destination runway ILS frequency).
I will learn about the ILS from youtube. But dont you think ILS will be boring when compared to landing yourself?

I mean I find Landing to be the most challenging part of FS, especially if its a big Boeing or Airbus.

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Also suggest you look and search for FSX videos on Youtube. There are many tutorials on Youtube. For e.,g, if you want to know how to lading using ILS search for the topic on Youtube "FSX ILS landing".
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Ive answered that too in the second paragraph i guess. You need to press the win key when in flight and click the simulation rate option. Increase it to increase your sim rate so that 40 minutes mission can be finished in 5 minutes.

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Thank you very much for being patient with me and answering all my noob questions friends...
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There are two options in front of me - one says 'Nav' and other says 'GPS'. I always keep it at 'GPS'. I dont know what Nav does!

This was one problem when I was flying in the Free Flight mode. I started a Mumbai to Goa flight () and I was expecting the ATC to give me runway and take off clearance and then guide me to the correct altitude. But I dint hear anything from the ATC and I had to totally rely on the GPS to get to Goa. Which took away half of the fun...
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NAV is used when you fly using VOR to VOR. For NAV option you need to program the flight computer FMC with waypoints and coordinates and fuel consumption. Then when you switch on NAV in autopilot the planes computer uses the waypoint info you have entered to navigate accordingly. This way of flying is more fun. Especially if you fly the PMDG aircrafts they have almost real life like FMCs aka Flight Management Computer.

GPS gives you a straight to destination flightpath. And is very boring most of the times as it doesnt involve any challenges.

And in free flight if you select IFR or instrumental flight rules then you will get the ATC. Or just press this ~ key and check.

I had some addon Indian airports freeware from the web but dont have my external hdd with me presently. It can be found online.
Some of my favorite flights within the country are Mumbai to Delhi, Bangalore to Chennai and Kolkata, chennai to port Blair.

In other games, who loves sim city? Decided to rekindle my long lost love since Maxis seems to be developing a newer version for 2013 after a long hiatus. Discovered this money tree addon and have been building huge cities ever since something i could only dream of 10years back.

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