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Originally Posted by pramodkumar  OT:why can't we have this thread merged in one of the image threads as we might have different themes every 15 days and it will be difficult to track all these older threads, just a sugestion though. |
Promod, let's keep the discussions here. The seperate thread for theme came after lots of brain storming. There will be only one theme thread, whose theme will be changing. Non-theme photos will be posted in this thread, like always.
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Originally Posted by deky Dont you guys think its a good idea to have "the topic of the week" or something and post pics regarding the same?
For eg. we can have HDR for next week or b/w or panorama or unprocessed or whatever and post related to the topic pics, guru's can also post techniques for the same and us newbies cam learn.
Just a suggestion!! | Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqueguru  
Mods! Are you listening??? | Quote:
Originally Posted by shajufx Thanks for taking my comment in its pure sense. I always find fathers more attached to their daughters than sons, including myself. 
Its a good idea to have a weekly subject here. Atleast it will be a big favour for people who are learning and experimenting, like me. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffRyder +1 to that... | Quote:
Originally Posted by guyonblackybx +1 count my vote in for the same  | Quote:
Originally Posted by Technocrat Wow TG the first Portrait(B&W) is great & she is looking very cute
As for The Suggestion, We(MODs) will discuss & get back to you guys, I hope that's fine | Quote:
Originally Posted by ASHISHPALLOD
me too, me too.
it will be photography tuition for me. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Yes, yes, we are watching.
One is away, other is busy. You'll have to settle for me for now.
First, wanted to get the feel of what is expected here.
1) Assuming whole week will be one theme, what happens if somebody wants to post something outside of the theme?
2) Are the images going to be critiqued? Do people want to be critiqued? I can tell you it will get ugly. It could be optional too. Or it could be just fun, bad images are welcome as well as good pics.
3) Will there be a voting, will there be a winner? (this would need mod team approval before we can allow contest like this)
4) Any other ideas to improve the concept?
Based on your feedback, we will discuss in the support team and will come out with a structured plan. | Quote:
Originally Posted by mclaren1885 What you can do is, have a separate thread where you post only pics based on the weekly theme chosen. That way, you don't have to worry about people who want to post other images here. | Quote:
Originally Posted by vivekiny2k my thoughts are inline. | Quote:
Originally Posted by deky Sorry on missing You out Samurai. I think you the most regular here so You should be the One.
Criticism is no problem, i think this thread has done good enough with constructive criticism, and so far no one has taken any offence.
All pics good or bad should be allowed, I am saying this because my pics would all be bad in front of you guys but i am willing to be criticised and hence learn to make them better the next time.
Good idea about the contest Samurai. | Quote:
Originally Posted by clevermax +1 to the theme concept.
+1 to this thought too. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqueguru Now that sounds sensible!
@Samuari
And I completely agree with your thoughts there. | Quote:
Originally Posted by TSEA You may try this:
1. Let one person start the contest by giving a "Subject for the week/month". He becomes the judge for the moment.
2. Let people post pictures (taken only after the contest is announced), and allow others to comment on them. All pictures should be posted with the Contest Name as the heading.
3. However, the Judge decides which picture is the best and that photographer becomes the new Judge and decides on the "Subject" for the next contest (and so on...). | Quote:
Originally Posted by gd1418 Criticism is the first step for improvement and amendment for any. C&C should remain and be an integral part as well.
I did not understand Sharath, when you said it might get ugly. In what way? You mean the criticism shall border on deriding and humiliate?
I think that should not be allowed and nipped in the bud. There could be a rank beginner who would post his/her first pics that he/she thinks are his/her's best effort. Now that may not be so for the seasoned here.
To deride & humiliate that person on a forum is not done and would be totally demoralising, discouraging and may cause dejection as well.
We are members here to share, learn and improve our knowledge and skills, whether be it the automotive or any other topic/field and not to score brownie points or show superiority over anybody.
My 2 cents.. | Quote:
Originally Posted by HellwratH As far as my experience goes from the other photography forums, most people don't handle criticism that well. I am glad the members here are much more mature and accepting and are ready to learn. More often than not, when a person is criticized about his/her work, they tend to take it personally. It's the work that is being criticized not the person. Hence, it should be ok if all of us understand this simple thing and try to improve our photography. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Now, why would you think about such extremes?
But HellwratH guessed it right since he and I have seen it before in another photography forum. Many people don't handle criticism well. This is exactly why we stopped moderating the Auto Image thread.
Critiquing is a very dicey area, each person has a different idea about composition. Personally I am very wary of giving critique unless it is specified solicited and I am sure that the person will take it well.
Generally contests are a very good thing to challenge oneself, to constantly experiment and achieve better composition. However, both critical judging and reality TV style voting can leave the participant disappointed. Since the participant profile can differ from noob to top-professional, it would be very difficult to have a common understanding about composition and technique. Therefore, I don't think we should make this one a contest. | Quote:
Originally Posted by shajufx Criticism is part of growth, be it good or bad. If nobody comments about my photos (I may not have even half a dozen photos here!), I realize others consider me as a learner of photography techniques (which is truth) OR my photo is too simple and ordinary, there is nothing to write home about ! Whatever is the after-effect, photos from people like me are, fillers among professional posters ! It also might remind our seniors, how they were years back. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Often critique is solicited without any serious attempt by the snap-shooter. Here is an example where my comment was explicitly requested since it was too amateurish for expert comments, no I am not kidding. https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shift...tml#post705384
And I gave it honestly and he too took it well. Not everybody takes it well.
Another case: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shift...tml#post864725
If you just go through this thread from the begining, you will see that often critique is asked and given. But in many cases, the composition attempt is rather casual or non-existent. If you want to write a book, you have to bother with grammar, the structure (introduction, plot, storyline, developing the characters, climax, ending, etc), spelling, etc. If you don't know, you have to learn how to do it. Once you put significant effort in the right direction, then you can ask for critique and feedback from peers to correct mistakes. Tips are useful for incremental improvement. Once you get your fundamentals right, then you can develop a style, break the mould, etc. That is what TG has been doing these days.
Instead, if you splash a paint bucket over the wall and ask "Whadayya think?", there is nothing much to think or reply.
The best and the most effective feedback I ever received on my photography was this: You have no clue about photography, do you? | Quote:
Originally Posted by vivekiny2k I think I haven't seen many cases where people have taken a criticism negatively on this forum. What has really been an issue is the removal of the picture. The whole point people put it here is to let others see what they captured, removal takes away that opportunity.
In the very initial days I had put some pictures from auto show assuming anything that had an auto in it was meant to be in auto thread. After removal I didn't bother to put them anywhere else because I had lost the links (we were still using imageshack at that time), and there were too many of them to upload again.
Personally, I think criticism will not be a big issue was long as the images remain on the forum. |
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