The Auto-Image thread

Torqueguru · 16th February 2010, 05:56

@clevermax
"@TG: Man you've some keen obeservation skills to find the PP'ed blur. Actually the original shot was motione blurred but since the car was slow and I used 1/30, I added more motion blur in PS - So how did you sense it, is it my imperfect PP or you can recognize the PS added motion blur? Editing in the portions around RHS head lamp is flawed and it can be easily noticed."

I figured it out because I know how PS blur works. Also, the edges of the car has a notable difference in length of the blur lines. If you want to apply PS motion blur, make sure you mask the edges in the right way. I am posting an eg for you.

The car was parked and I clicked it while I was crossing the road. So all the blur you see is pp blur. Yet it is slightly more believable due to the careful selection mask I had made for the car, with the right amount of edge feathering. When doing pp, pay a lot of attention to edges. The pixels of the edge must match the softness of the pixels around it. I hope this helped, or did I confuse you ?

The Auto-Image thread-3346446172_8424b18543_b.jpg

Regards,
TG.

clevermax · 16th February 2010, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqueguru

I hope this helped, or did I confuse you ?
Regards,
TG.

TG, Many thanks for all the explanation. Yes I understood what you said completely. Only thing is that I am not very careful with my selections and the edge feathering most of the time since it is time consuming and I look for quick results - my bad. I sometimes gets annoyed by the way magnetic lasso works and tends to use the manual one more often. this takes more time, plus I don't have a peripheral on which I can draw. :( Sometimes, making a perfect selection is hard.

The motion blur example you posted also looks very real. One more question: How do you arrive upon the perfect feathering of selection depending upon the softness of the original edges? Trial and error?

Coming to the SantaFe shot, I should say that the PPed mountains looked very real in the shot. Some precise editing there!

Torqueguru · 16th February 2010, 12:47

@clevermax
Yes trial and error and experience. Don't use lasso, use the pen tool. It is better suited for this kind of job. Yes, making the perfect selection is hard and also can create issues, sometimes its how imperfect your selection is that counts

But u must be able control the imperfections!

In the Santafe shot, the pped mountains are very much real ones, that I had shot at a different locale

thats probably why they look real!

benbsb29 · 16th February 2010, 13:54

TG, you seem to have gotten the hang of how Rudra achieves the shine on the car, so prominent in his car pics. Could you please explain that workflow, please?

Torqueguru · 16th February 2010, 14:54

@benbs
I have a long way to go before learning Rudra's techniques. What I do is selectively apply adjustments to only the highlights. It is a completely manual process, no short cuts. It is just like painting. If you have a strong base in painting, I feel it really makes the job easy.
Regards,
TG.

clevermax · 16th February 2010, 15:50

@TG: Thanks! I've been using lasso tools to make selections. Now will try with pen tool. I agree with the imperfect selection point.

For the SantaFe shot, I meant the way mountains are blended into the picture looks very real, I know it is a real shot of the mountains.

@bensb, TG: I sometimes duplicate the pic layer and apply blending mode hard lighting in selected areas of the body only, to give a polished look but it is sometimes a disaster with 100% opacity so I'll reduce it to something like 30 or so. But I know this is a crude method.

clevermax · 16th February 2010, 23:11

Punto in one of those Verna colors

CrAzY dRiVeR · 17th February 2010, 08:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqueguru

Nissan Murano
Attachment 287893

Beautiful!

Quote:

Originally Posted by clevermax

@Crazy Driver: Thanks! Yes it is indeed DIY, but using Photoshop

Go ahead and DIY in real too. Looks hot that way!

Torqueguru · 18th February 2010, 16:38

One of the most awesome vehicles i ever had the privilege to drive, Subaru Imprezza WRX Sti, tuned to produce 400whp. Was quite an experience.

The Auto-Image thread-3613811255_8510dd1627_b.jpg

Regards,
TG.

clevermax · 18th February 2010, 17:40

TG, 'Imprez'ive!!!
awesome picture & processing. Selective saturation just works. Did you apply HPF?

preetam_KORG · 18th February 2010, 17:41

@Torqueguru :
The experience was pretty exhilarating as the picture describes!
What A shot!
Kudos!!
+1 Million

And Yes! That is going on my desktop and stays for quite a while!

Rudra Sen · 18th February 2010, 17:43

Mukul, lovely shot.
I feel background could be in colour too. Just tone it down.

mobike008 · 18th February 2010, 17:49

My pete'd red beast clicked at a recent tbhp meet

Rudra Sen · 18th February 2010, 17:51

Very, very nice mobike.

theexperthand · 19th February 2010, 09:46

Few clicks from my side.

16th February 2010, 05:56	#1966
Torqueguru BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 277 Thanked: 165 Times View My Garage	@clevermax "@TG: Man you've some keen obeservation skills to find the PP'ed blur. Actually the original shot was motione blurred but since the car was slow and I used 1/30, I added more motion blur in PS - So how did you sense it, is it my imperfect PP or you can recognize the PS added motion blur? Editing in the portions around RHS head lamp is flawed and it can be easily noticed." I figured it out because I know how PS blur works. Also, the edges of the car has a notable difference in length of the blur lines. If you want to apply PS motion blur, make sure you mask the edges in the right way. I am posting an eg for you. The car was parked and I clicked it while I was crossing the road. So all the blur you see is pp blur. Yet it is slightly more believable due to the careful selection mask I had made for the car, with the right amount of edge feathering. When doing pp, pay a lot of attention to edges. The pixels of the edge must match the softness of the pixels around it. I hope this helped, or did I confuse you ? Regards, TG.

18th February 2010, 16:38	#1974
Torqueguru BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 277 Thanked: 165 Times View My Garage	One of the most awesome vehicles i ever had the privilege to drive, Subaru Imprezza WRX Sti, tuned to produce 400whp. Was quite an experience. Regards, TG.

18th February 2010, 17:40	#1975
clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 2,766 Times View My Garage	TG, 'Imprez'ive!!! awesome picture & processing. Selective saturation just works. Did you apply HPF? Last edited by clevermax : 18th February 2010 at 17:42.

18th February 2010, 17:49	#1978
mobike008 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 11,855 Thanked: 15,959 Times View My Garage	My pete'd red beast clicked at a recent tbhp meet Attached Thumbnails

19th February 2010, 09:46	#1980
theexperthand Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,640 Thanked: 2,488 Times View My Garage	Few clicks from my side. Attached Thumbnails

16th February 2010, 12:47	#1968
Torqueguru BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 277 Thanked: 165 Times View My Garage	@clevermax Yes trial and error and experience. Don't use lasso, use the pen tool. It is better suited for this kind of job. Yes, making the perfect selection is hard and also can create issues, sometimes its how imperfect your selection is that counts But u must be able control the imperfections! In the Santafe shot, the pped mountains are very much real ones, that I had shot at a different locale thats probably why they look real!

16th February 2010, 13:54	#1969
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,040 Thanked: 13,682 Times View My Garage	TG, you seem to have gotten the hang of how Rudra achieves the shine on the car, so prominent in his car pics. Could you please explain that workflow, please?

16th February 2010, 14:54	#1970
Torqueguru BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 277 Thanked: 165 Times View My Garage	@benbs I have a long way to go before learning Rudra's techniques. What I do is selectively apply adjustments to only the highlights. It is a completely manual process, no short cuts. It is just like painting. If you have a strong base in painting, I feel it really makes the job easy. Regards, TG.

16th February 2010, 15:50	#1971
clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 2,766 Times View My Garage	@TG: Thanks! I've been using lasso tools to make selections. Now will try with pen tool. I agree with the imperfect selection point. For the SantaFe shot, I meant the way mountains are blended into the picture looks very real, I know it is a real shot of the mountains. @bensb, TG: I sometimes duplicate the pic layer and apply blending mode hard lighting in selected areas of the body only, to give a polished look but it is sometimes a disaster with 100% opacity so I'll reduce it to something like 30 or so. But I know this is a crude method.

16th February 2010, 23:11	#1972
clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 2,766 Times View My Garage	Punto in one of those Verna colors

18th February 2010, 17:41	#1976
preetam_KORG BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kolkata Posts: 700 Thanked: 385 Times View My Garage	@Torqueguru : The experience was pretty exhilarating as the picture describes! What A shot! Kudos!! +1 Million And Yes! That is going on my desktop and stays for quite a while!

18th February 2010, 17:43	#1977
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,680 Thanked: 6,651 Times View My Garage	Mukul, lovely shot. I feel background could be in colour too. Just tone it down.

18th February 2010, 17:51	#1979
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,680 Thanked: 6,651 Times View My Garage	Very, very nice mobike.

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