[saikishor]

Asking for a close friend outside of this forum:

He currently owns a Triber and is replacing that with an EV. Budget has been capped at 18 lacs apparently. He has booked a Nexon EV as of now, but I have suggested otherwise.
I am not very much into EV's, and AFAIK, Nexon EV is a 1st gen EV currently at thr end of its lifecycle. I have strongly suggested to look at the MG Windsor but he is dismissing it off because of the looks.

Purpose of the vehicle: primarily for city usage, with outstation trips once in a while.

Suggestions and advices on this would be highly appreciated.

Mods: Created a new thread so that I can share it with my friend and he can view the responses directly.

Regards

[isitsmd]

Windsor EV is the most VFM currently but comes with a great range anxiety. But if looks are the main priority, then Creta EV or the eVitara would be a better choice, if they are interested in waiting a bit more.

[narayans80]

Originally Posted by saikishor

AFAIK, Nexon EV is a 1st gen EV currently at thr end of its lifecycle.

No. Nexon EV's chassis hasn't changed. But under the hood, it is a 2nd gen similar to Punch.ev or Curvv.ev. The HV issues are much lesser when compared to the 1st generation Tata EVs. If 18L is a strict budget and he isn't going to be on the highway (meaning more DC charging), Nexon45 and Curvv45 might be worth a look.

If he foresees more DC charging and strict budget, then Windsor EV. Beyond the polar looks, there is unbelievable space inside.

If he is flexible with budget, then he should look at BE6, Creta EV or the upcoming eVitara

[saikishor]

Originally Posted by narayans80

No. Nexon EV's chassis hasn't changed. But under the hood, it is a 2nd gen similar to Punch.ev or Curvv.ev. The HV issues are much lesser when compared to the 1st generation Tata EVs. If 18L is a strict budget and he isn't going to be on the highway (meaning more DC charging), Nexon45 and Curvv45 might be worth a look.

If he foresees more DC charging and strict budget, then Windsor EV. Beyond the polar looks, there is unbelievable space inside.

If he is flexible with budget, then he should look at BE6, Creta EV or the upcoming eVitara

BE6 was their first choice but I think the looks did not grow for him, because when it was first released he said he was sold on it. Apart from this, BE6 is out of budget for him.
I am strongly suggesting the Windsor, but he is not budging. Honestly Windsor is not as polarising as, say a Verna or a Curvv in that Tomato or Carrot red color. Infact Windsor looks really good in Black.

[mally2]

At 18L the Nexon ev 45 empowered+ is hard to ignore. It’s very vfm for the range and charging speed on offer. I am using one and loving it. I too could not digest the MG Windsor looks and the be6 was out of budget for me. Pack 1 will definitely not be delivered before the next 6 months and I badly needed a car.

[narayans80]

Originally Posted by saikishor

Honestly Windsor is not as polarising as

I am a head buyer, so am not much into looks. But it does matter for quite a lot. By only concern with Windsor was around usability with all those overloaded and touch controls. Plus those reports around bouncy ride.

The only neutral design within budget is Nexon45. Or else he stretches and gets a Creta EV. I would expect eVitara base also to be above 18L OTR

[Shreyans_Jain]

In my book, it is Nexon EV over Windsor. It’s the right size, Windsor’s width is comparable to Fortuner’s. The Tata has a bigger battery with decent fast charging capabilities. More importantly, the car part of the EV is properly sorted. It rides very well, steering is well weighted and precise, there is no unnecessary bounciness or harshness, the AC is a chiller, there are physical controls for all regularly used functions, regen is well judged, everything is right where you expect it and it works. There is not much learning curve here. Nexon EV is a product that has been refined over the years and it is very very good. It is the ideal city car.

[mally2]

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

In my book, it is Nexon EV over Windsor. It’s the right size, Windsor’s width is comparable to Fortuner’s. The Tata has a bigger battery with decent fast charging capabilities. More importantly, the car part of the EV is properly sorted. It rides very well, steering is well weighted and precise, there is no unnecessary bounciness or harshness, the AC is a chiller, there are physical controls for all regularly used functions, regen is well judged, everything is right where you expect it and it works. There is not much learning curve here. Nexon EV is a product that has been refined over the years and it is very very good. It is the ideal city car.

Perfectly summed up and the 45kw variant is the ideal single car garage for both city and highways if one doesn’t frequent over 350km without stops.

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by saikishor

Asking for a close friend outside of this forum:

He currently owns a Triber and is replacing that with an EV. Budget has been capped at 18 lacs apparently. He has booked a Nexon EV as of now, but I have suggested otherwise.
I am not very much into EV's, and AFAIK, Nexon EV is a 1st gen EV currently at thr end of its lifecycle. I have strongly suggested to look at the MG Windsor but he is dismissing it off because of the looks.

I own a Nexon EV Max and as a car it is solid. There are indeed some concerns about is BMS but Nexon EV 45 KWH version (do not know what is official name is) now has prismatic cells instead of the cylindrical cells of Nexon 1st gen and Max. Plus it has a larger battery than Windsor. I have not driven the Windsor but its idea of having even something like AC controls in the infotainment is really off putting.

Windsor is a much bigger car and I really do not understand the logic of giving it a smaller (than even the Nexon Max) battery.

There are other things like the ability to drive at zero regen (something that I do not think MG's drive train allows) that makes TATA's EV drive train really attractive. The resulting smoothness is something that is really hard to get and it is my default setting. Nexon 45 also allows for charging speed upward of 1.2 C (that is what I understand).

Hence overall I would bat for Nexon EV 45 KWH version.

[SRS]

Originally Posted by saikishor

Suggestions and advices on this would be highly appreciated.

With a budget of 18 lakhs in Hyderabad, the Nexon EV Empowered Plus 45 kWh with all its bells and whistles seems to be the best option. The Nexon EV, although based on the ICE Nexon, uses lithium-ion prismatic cells sourced from Tata Autocomp Systems Limited, which has a JV with Guoxuan Hi-Tech, a Chinese manufacturer of batteries. These cells have much higher energy density and support faster charging than the ones used in the 30 kWh and 40.5 kWh (now discontinued) variant, which uses cylindrical cells.

So, despite the ICE platform, the batteries on the Nexon are relatively new, though still based on the MNC architecture as opposed to the LFP batteries on the upcoming eVitara and other cars. However, despite this, these batteries have many advantages such as higher energy density, faster speeds, and lower cost.

Moreover, even though the platform is a tried and tested one, there won't be many issues on that front either.

However, for a Born EV with newer battery tech and the perks associated with the same, the eVitara would be a good choice. The MG Windsor, albeit a value for money offering, has a slightly smaller 38 kWh battery which is still based on an older architecture; however if they launch the 50.3 kWh variant under the 20 lakh mark, it would be a good option worth considering with the added range, features, space and overall package.

So long story short, the Nexon EV 45 is a good choice and solid option, the Windsor is a good consideration, but I would advise waiting for the 50.3 kWh variant.

[CafeRacer16]

At a budget of 18-19 Lakhs, I think Creta electric executive variant is the most VFM product available. No offence but Tata & Mahindra are no where close to Hyundai in terms of reliability. So if your friend's requirement is a no nonsense, not in your face designed vehicle, Creta ev executive variant is the way to go.

[navinmra]

Agree with Mally2, electric_eel and Shreyans_Jain.
As a Nexon EV Max user for 2 years, I feel the 45kwh version which is 2 lakhs cheaper than what I paid for, is serious VFM. Mechanically a very well sorted car with good range and low NVH for the money. The biggest negative for Windsor in my view is terrible NVH and of course small battery pack.

[DieselAnna]

Since I own one and have a fair idea of the Tatas (have 3 Nexon EV in my circle), I would recommend Creta EV Executive. For city running, its the most sorted and easier to learn EVs. The range is consistent and everything works as expected. Most parts are common to the ICE Creta, so no worries there.

If budget is a problem, then Nexon should be the 2nd obvious choice since BE6 and Windsor are ruled out.

[ALTIMAed]

Originally Posted by isitsmd

Windsor EV is the most VFM currently but comes with a great range anxiety. But if looks are the main priority, then Creta EV or the eVitara would be a better choice, if they are interested in waiting a bit more.

I drive a Comet, compared to the Windsor, I should be having a 'strong range anxiety'. My Comet was purchased prior to the Fast Charging variant's launch. With just 2 apps

Ehub by MG
Tata Power ez charge

My charging requirements were well taken care of when I did my 2nd trip from Delhi to Ajmer. During the first trip, eHub by MG was not launched, neither were there as many chargers as there are now. Hence my 2nd trip, apart from the time I had to spend to top up the Comet (never charged till 100%), I was pretty comfortable. The Windsor, easily gives a range of 250+ kms, enough distance to cover between meals / bio breaks etc. Usings a 45 KW DC charger, it just takes 55 mins to charger from 0% to 80%. Of course, the vehicle shall not be at 0% - hence less time required. I agree, range anxiety is a factor to keep in mind, but this lasts just as long as one familiarises oneself with the apps - once done, its a breeze. I might happen to drive my Comet to Jalandhar, have already marked the charging locations in my 'favourite' list - just require to tap the location, it shall appear on google maps on my infotainment screen - as easy as that.

[raghav.2299]

Originally Posted by CafeRacer16

At a budget of 18-19 Lakhs, I think Creta electric executive variant is the most VFM product available. No offence but Tata & Mahindra are no where close to Hyundai in terms of reliability. So if your friend's requirement is a no nonsense, not in your face designed vehicle, Creta ev executive variant is the way to go.

Is this variant even manufactured ? I have not seen a single video online nor on road in Hyderabad. Funny thing is that not even a single Hyundai dealer in Hyderabad is having this variant. I would like to see a walk around view of the Hyundai Creta Electric Executive variant before purchase.