[argho]

Originally Posted by electric_eel

What HVAC systems do the BYDs come with ? Tesla's heat pump system is as far as I know leagues apart and there is no comparable system any where in the auto-world. That could be a major factor in extreme conditions.

Does Tesla's heat pump system also work as an air-conditioner ?

In the US, I guess the heat pump system is very effective at drawing excess heat from the batteries and using it to heat the cabin.

But what happens in a hot country like India ?

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by argho

Does Tesla's heat pump system also work as an air-conditioner ?

In the US, I guess the heat pump system is very effective at drawing excess heat from the batteries and using it to heat the cabin.

But what happens in a hot country like India ?

Yes heat pump system can be seen as an intelligent heat redistribution system and thus includes cooling of cabin too.

While heating is not such an important factor in southern India, there are still situations like dehumidifying during the monsoon season, where heating plays a role. Blindly running the AC in auto mode can reduce the range in monsoon season too

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...ml#post5793287 (EV-Specific efficiency quirks & tricks to improve range)

Heating directly using electricity and heating coil has terrible efficiency. I would assume the heat pump system would be good here too.

[shobhit.shri]

I was seriously considering this car, and though it would be a stretch financially, I find it well priced for what it provides.

However, I am not sure if it makes sense to buy this car in Bangalore. It would be a tragedy to drive a car that does 0-100 in 4.5 seconds at 7KM/H of average speed. It's a Ferrari with more than 500 BHP power and we just don't have the roads or the traffic for it. It might make sense to someone who does regular weekend drives but I find it hard to justify for 98% city usage.

The cheapster in me is thinking of buying the Creta EV for roughly 40%(25 vs 60) of the price and spend the remaining 35L in foreign trips for the next 5 years

But it's definitely an object of desire and I would sigh anytime I see it on the road!

[jetpack470]

Originally Posted by shobhit.shri

The cheapster in me is thinking of buying the Creta EV for roughly 40%(25 vs 60) of the price and spend the remaining 35L in foreign trips for the next 5 years

I am also thinking of the same thing. Creta EV and save my money. I do live near great highways but we have an Audi A4 which is more than fast enough for me to enjoy those. If I lived inside Gurgaon and didn't come on expressways often, I probably would not even consider the Sealion. However, considering the rapidly evolving EV market, I am currently thinking on holding off on any EV purchase for another year. Let's see by the end of 2025, I suspect Creta EV prices might drop. Furthermore, with the talk of Tesla concessions, I think prices for other imported EVs like BYD might drop too. Especially Atto 3, which I quite like.

[EP.]

Originally Posted by sarathlal

Yes it does have a full length roof cover. Quite a strong one as well.



This is the 19 inch from the display vehicle
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Would it be possible to run a square tyre set up with the OEM Wheels? Say 255/45 R19 or 255/50 R19 for all four wheels on the Premium variant? or will that require a wheel change?

**Aware of range implications, but tyre longevity may triumph the range loss in running the wider square set of tyres.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by shobhit.shri

be a stretch financially, I find it well priced for what it provides.

However, I am not sure if it makes sense to buy this car in Bangalore. It would be a tragedy to drive a car that does 0-100 in 4.5 seconds at 7KM/H of average speed. It's a Ferrari with more than 500 BHP power and we just don't have the roads or the traffic for it. It might make sense to someone who does regular weekend drives but I find it hard to justify for 98% city usage.

buying the Creta EV for roughly 40%(25 vs 60) of the price and spend the remaining 35L in foreign trips for the next 5 years

of desire and I would sigh anytime I see it on the road!

The BYD Sealion is 4900 mm long. It’s a huge car almost like an Audi Q7 or Merc GLS. And you are right. The power, torque and acceleration figures are quite insane. I really don't think there is anywhere in India where we can safely use that much power in an automobile.

But yes, it is definitely an object of desire. Just as the MG Cyberster too will become when it launches, although it may be impractical and all.

You are absolutely on point when you say you’ll buy a Creta EV and use the money saved to go on foreign holidays. This thought resonates greatly with me - Indeed I have become a veritable ‘tuning fork’!
Apart from the Creta EV I would also consider the E Vitara whenever that comes. Both these are well priced and well equipped and will quietly and efficiently do the work asked of them without complaint or fanfare.

As Ive shared on other threads, I was impressed by EV’s, wanted an EV and hence went and bought the Hyundai Kona last year.

I had evaluated the Ioniq5 and EV6 and BYD Atto 3 and all. But then, all things considered, I felt like spending only Rs 19-20 lacs on an EV.

Call me old school or conservative or puritanical or extra prudent or whatever, but I was simply unable to bring myself to consider the 45 odd Lacs for the Ioniq5, the 35 odd lacs for the Atto 3 and the 65 odd lacs they were asking for the Kia EV6 was frankly far too high a price.

(And this year, they were giving away fat 20 Lac Rupee discounts on the EV6 to clear away their stocks!
I would very probably have felt like committing ritual Seppuku in front of their showroom l had I yielded and succumbed to temptation and if by chance I had actually s t r e t c h e d and bought that EV6 last year!)

One more thing, all of these vehicles were too wide and long for our narrow roads and city streets.

I somehow just loved the Kona’s size and proportions and performance the moment I drove it. And the discounted price that I was able to negotiate, was the clincher.

So I hail and endorse your prudent, common-sense approach.

[aadiaksh]

I hope with the recent policy change in EV vehicles, BYD takes steps to enter aggressively in the market. This will create competition in the market which I hope will cause Indian makers to step up. I’m not sure if they can match up to BYD though. They seem to be a class apart right now. Nonetheless, good for the consumer.

[shobhit.shri]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

So I hail and endorse your prudent, common-sense approach.

Thank you for your wise words and wonderful writing!

I will most probably book the Creta electric by the end of this month, once I finish test driving all the car under 1 crore. It's kind of sad but I feel the rationality will win again!

[vishal9999]

Considering the potential impact of Tesla's entry into the Indian market with reduced import duties, would it be wise to proceed with purchasing the BYD Sealion 7 at its launch? Additionally, how might other fence-sitters address this scenario?

[bijims]

Originally Posted by vishal9999

Considering the potential impact of Tesla's entry into the Indian market with reduced import duties, would it be wise to proceed with purchasing the BYD Sealion 7 at its launch? Additionally, how might other fence-sitters address this scenario?

It depends on the Government's finalisation of the import duty structure and if imports from China are also treated at par and with the same lower duties, if that is the case, then prices are bound to decrease, but I don't think that will be the case, and the Government will specifically tailor structure the duty concession on imports from certain nations and not all.

[TokyoDrifter]

Originally Posted by vishal9999

Considering the potential impact of Tesla's entry into the Indian market with reduced import duties, would it be wise to proceed with purchasing the BYD Sealion 7 at its launch? Additionally, how might other fence-sitters address this scenario?

1. I too believe that Chinese Manufacturers won’t be given the import duty benefit — but not sure if China can then impose India-specific tariffs.

2. BYD might anyway want to reduce the prices given they’ve done so in other markets already.

It’s a chicken and egg problem. Waiting doesn’t mean it’ll yield anything unfortunately. And the timing is still unknown anyway.

[AMG Power]

Comparison: Sealion 7 Performance vs BMW M4 Competition:

Power:

Sealion 7 - 523 Bhp
BMW M4 Competition - 523 Bhp

Torque:

Sealion 7 - 690 Nm
BMW M4 Competition - 650 Nm

0-100 timings:

Sealion 7 - 4.5 seconds
BMW M4 Competition - 3.5 seconds

Price (ex showroom)

Sealion 7 - 54 lakhs
BMW M4 Competition - 1.56 Crores

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by TokyoDrifter

1. I too believe that Chinese Manufacturers won’t be given the import duty benefit — but not sure if China can then impose India-specific tariffs.

2. BYD might anyway want to reduce the prices given they’ve done so in other markets already.

It’s a chicken and egg problem. Waiting doesn’t mean it’ll yield anything unfortunately. And the timing is still unknown anyway.

My honest view.

Having driven Tesla cars abroad and used many of them as Uber Green Taxis (also abroad), and having seen and driven the BYD’s in India and used many as Uber Green Taxis (abroad), very frankly, BYD is way better and if I were to choose between these I would go straight to BYD.

The Europeans and Americans are nowhere in this race. Their World Domination has been neatly snipped by the Chinese.

Tata and Mahindra and others are making valiant efforts. But the Chinese EV makers like BYD and MG and even NIO, have left everyone else to lie in the dust as far as consistently high tech development and future-ready capabilities are concerned.

Im leaving aside all the worthless jingoisim. Evaluating purely on the strength of Product. And making a considered judgement upon where I would wish to put my money, were I in the market.

The only others whose efforts are worthy from a mass market perspective are Hyundai and Maruti. And I have already put my money where my keyboard is.

[anb]

Originally Posted by AMG Power

[b]Comparison: Sealion 7 Performance vs BMW M4

A sedan vs sedan comparison would make more sense. Seal vs M4, 3.8s vs3.5s to 100.

[rohanshivi1]

Originally Posted by Aditya

BYD Sealion 7 Interior Images
...

Awesome review. Thanks for that.

The car looks to have a lot copied from Tesla in terms of design and functionality including the UI. The text7graphics/placement of the settings looks the same in addition to the front driver's screen very similar to refreshed Model S/X.

Did BYD say anything about what if the ORVM gets damaged and disconnected. How will the NFC work to get in to the locked car?