[kappa23]

Originally Posted by blogslogger

Hyundai had the chance to differentiate its EV from the regular Creta by offering the 12.3 inch dipslay setup from the Syros and some interior bits from Tuscon. That would've been ok for a compact premium car. By changing the drivetrain and not much else, people would definitely cross shop with diesel creta, compare running costs, and come to a conclusion. If it is priced anything above Rs.3L, it would be very hard to find proper buyers. Moreover, the charging port on the front, where most of the car crashes happen, is not a very shrewd move.

People buy diesels for the highway mile munching capabilities, EVs don't provide the same assurance in that regard.

What this should do is dissuade buyers from opting for the turbo petrol DCT if their use case is for the city.

The running costs and ease of drive would make up for the premium that the electric would command.

[buzzy_boy]

I believe the biggest challenge for the EV Creta is the Creta IVT: it offers the same package, is almost as smooth, and eliminates range anxiety.

Hyundai's phenomenal NVH package, which is their strength in the ICE world, would ironically become the biggest hurdle in converting their ICE customers to EVs.

[07CR]

Originally Posted by kappa23

People buy diesels for the highway mile munching capabilities, EVs don't provide the same assurance in that regard..

With a bigger battery even those would have been converts, like say a 500-550 km range. I wish Hyundai does bring a bigger battery in near future with about 80 Kwh.

Originally Posted by buzzy_boy

I believe the biggest challenge for the EV Creta is the Creta IVT: it offers the same package, is almost as smooth, and eliminates range anxiety.

Partially correct. But even then IVT Creta's running cost of 7.4 rupees / km is way higher than a electric's average 2 rupee/ km ( even lower if charged exclusively at home and/or with solar).

Assumed petrol price 102.83, mileage as 14 and annual running as 10 K kms. Savings with EVs are massive, no two ways about it. Added performance and lower maintenance cost is another cherry on the top. Range anxiety shouldn't matter to an IVT buyer focussing short 200-300 km trips.

Any idea what time the price is being announced on 17th ?

[gururajrv]

With Hyundai coming out with their best model with EV, Mahindra bringing out models after models with all guns blazing, Tata is set to take the back seat. Somehow, i strongly feel Tata's management has been on mild-hibernation mode.

With Creta getting the long awaited EV variant, trust me, people will prefer badge, goodwill, service network and trouble free experience without compromising on finesse/quality levels, which the Creta offers quite easily. Mahindra, although have an edge because of their unique styled SUVs, I'm sure people will prefer trouble free EVs with wide service network for sure and the competition will certainly be fierce similar to their ICE variants. Good luck, Hyundai!

[Vikram9193]

Many of you will know Bjørn Nyland as a popular old timer in the range test game. His huge spreadsheet shows us that not that many boxy cars manage to pull less than 150 wh/km ie 6.66 km/kwh when driven at a steady 90 kmph (cruise control) in Norway summer weather, with only him in the car and AC on.

The ZS EV as I recall is a little over the 150 wh/km mark. In case the Creta can do an exceptional 140 wh/km (Hyundai magic? Possible) it should breach the 350 km mark in the right conditions.

The Indian YouTube range tests are usually not helpful unless you are driving on a highway with a lot of traffic or an 80 kmph speed limit.

[shyampsunder]

I was initially a sceptic of the Creta EV given the charging speeds etc but I am starting to like this car.

Some specific EV bits which are really nice

1. DC charging speeds up to 100 kW in H2 of this year is good, puts it on par with cars like ZS EV.

2. One pedal driving is here, the way Hyundai has generally tuned this means that it provides a great way to drive the car with brakes used only for emergencies. Apart from efficiency benefits, it's just an easier way to drive in stop and go traffic once you get through the learning curve.

3. Can manually enable battery preconditioning! There are many high end cars where this feature is not there and requires you to navigate through the OEM system to a charging station. For those who are not aware, this let's you inform the car that you are en route to a charging station. The car accordingly ensures the battery is at the optimal temperature to accept max DC charge. Great for quick bursts of 10 - 20 minutes of DC charging.

4. Ability to schedule charging let's owners take advantage of Time of Day pricing. Significant discounts during certain hours of the day. Once you set a charge limit and key in the Time of Day price schedule, you simply plug-in your car every day when you come home and let the car charge when it wants to at the cheapest price.

5. Ability to lower AC charge rate: While charging at hotels or other locations using the 15A plug point, you have the option to reduce the charge draw in case you are not sure of the wiring etc or if the plug point is encountering frequent tripping of power.

The fact that this car doesn't have any of the turtle mode stuff from Tata EVs, it's a no brainer to buy this over the Curvv 55 kWh even if the Creta is priced higher.

[sunikkat]

If I am in the market now for a city car EV, Creta would be top of my choice. I kind of like new Creta styling over previous. Also I would be more happy to put money on Hyundai than BYD or MG. Mahindra twins, though very promising, I do not have full confidence on the initial niggles with such a tech laden car. Else 9e or 6e would have been my choice.

Anyway I have plans of replacing my city beater i20 with an EV in 2 years and by then there will be more cars and better infrastructure. I am also eagerly waiting for Skoda Elroq, hope they launch it here and soon.

[kgt.v8]

There are lot of good things going with Creta EV looking at the spec and initial reviews. I take all YouTube reviews with a pinch of salt as these influencers will never highlight any bad points in the car and risk their PR with car companies.

USP for Creta EV:

• No turtle mode when battery charge falls below 10%. This turtle mode is very risky on highways. I personally don't want to be in a situation where I am driving the EV at less than 50 kmph on highway with 80kmph speed limit to reach next charging station.
• Both driver and passenger get 8 way adjustable electric seats.
• Memory function for driver seat
• Ability to move front passenger seat from rear bench
• Better space in center console to put your phone
• Space for 2 cup holders in center console
• Decent 200mm unladen ground clearance. I saw video from IndianTorque where he took the car over a decent sized speed breaker, the car had only 1 person and the car almost made it through.

Cons:
- The low hanging battery which doesn't seem to have lot of protection from sides.

Originally Posted by Aditya

A healthy amount of underbody protection. Ground clearance is rated at 200 mm:
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Most of the cars do not provide laden ground clearance numbers clearly.
My one humble request (if possible to add in Team BHP official reviews)

1. Show how much does the rear suspension sag when rear bench is occupied.
2. For example - When 2 people occupy the rear seat and 1 driver with no luggage, Total 4 people in the car with 2 in front and 2 in rear with 2 medium sized bags in the boot and then with 5 people in the car (2 in front and 3 in rear) with no luggage. This will help normal people like us gauge laden ground clearance and suspension sag when car is fully loaded.

What is the space highlighted in yellow box behind the battery?

[atin001]

I am surprised that Hyundai decided to go with NMC instead of LFP. Also surprised that more people here are not pointing it out as a concern.

When reading through the XUV400 review thread, there are multiple posts about how NMC is older tech, susceptible to heat, should not be charged to 100% etc.

Here is the mention from the review itself.
"NMC batteries is potentially an area of concern. It is well established that LFP batteries are more robust, better suited to high temperatures and retain their charge longer. NMC batteries are known to loose their capacity much sooner and have to be charged carefully in the interest of longevity."

Am I missing something or these concerns do not apply to Creta EV?

[sarathlal]

Thanks for the detailed review.
Do we know how flexible is this platform in terms of having an upgraded battery pack or additional motors?

Originally Posted by Aditya

Front camera sticks out and could have been better integrated:
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The camera is actually looking like the Mahindra Logo, isnt it?

[Raghu M]

I fail to understand one point - why would the charging port be given exactly in the front bumper. Isn't that a design flaw? Indian roads mostly sport bumper to bumper traffic and if Hyundai can check, one of the biggest cosmetic spare that is ordered and re-ordered is the front/rear bumper. A car generally changes at least 2 bumpers in it's lifetime. That itself is a costly affair (including paint to match color), and now imagine a dent to the main charging port and the associated repair costs that come with it. Coming to the car, am not sure if it will dent the sales of any other existing EVs, IMO.

[Raghu M]

Originally Posted by sarathlal

The camera is actually looking like the Mahindra Logo, isnt it?

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That's a fantastic observation! I felt exactly the same, and that too the new M&M logo

[07CR]

Originally Posted by Raghu M

I fail to understand one point - why would the charging port be given exactly in the front bumper. Isn't that a design flaw? Indian roads mostly sport bumper to bumper traffic and if Hyundai can check, one of the biggest cosmetic spare that is ordered and re-ordered is the front/rear bumper. A car generally changes at least 2 bumpers in it's lifetime. That itself is a costly affair (including paint to match color), and now imagine a dent to the main charging port and the associated repair costs that come with it. Coming to the car, am not sure if it will dent the sales of any other existing EVs, IMO.

To think of it, this is really scary. Say you are on a road trip. You are at about 10-20% of charge levels. You get involved in a minor accident, frontal impact. The car is driveable, but the charging port is damaged. Now even though the car is driveable you are at the mercy of the 10-20% charge you have and post that you will have to call for a flatbed/tow truck and cancel the road trip.

[IamNikhil]

Even without any of the bells-and-whistles offered by the competition, I guess many new EV adopters would bestow their trust in this EV Creta, just because of the perceived reliability of Hyundai in the mass market. Hyundai need not even spend big bucks on marketing, just take timely care of the niggles from the initial lot and the customers will automatically act as the brand ambassadors themselves. Keep it simple.

[patil.ketan]

Originally Posted by atin001

I am surprised that Hyundai decided to go with NMC instead of LFP. Also surprised that more people here are not pointing it out as a concern.

I agree, have been reading about NMCs and most people say it wouldn't matter much *if* used well over the lifetime of the car.

However, I would really use some expert opinion on:
If I am buying the car hoping to use it for at least 15 years, should I be worried about NMC battery pack?