[WhyMe]

Originally Posted by Sentau

...Still if the user manual says so, better that the owners such as you and others abide by it.

The wording shown here is indeed confusing. For instance what if we never let SOC<20% (which any disciplined owner ought to be), do they still imply the line in brackets to be followed ?
They should elaborate this point in future revisions of the manual.

Originally Posted by electric_eel

As for newer tech outdating the current tech, I can guarantee you that it will happen...

Looking at the general trend where everything in modern life is losing its longevity compared to life just 50 years back, one thing I'm quite sure of that is EV's will have on average shorter lifespan than traditional ICE cars, due to both hardware and new elephant in the room; the software/computer/electronics in a car.

[Entells]

Originally Posted by saurabh_TB

I can't seem to find the info anywhere that tells me the max AC fast charger rating for Creta Electric. Would it support 22KW charging, or should I stick with the 11KW version?
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I guess Creta supports max 11 kw AC charging. There is no mention of 22 kw AC charging anywhere on the net.
Secondly, you need to apply under LMV 6 for EV charging connection for UP.

[avchrono]

Originally Posted by kandyfloss

Are we to assume that the EV today (in its nascent stage) with a 51 kWh capacity and a charging tech that it has, with real world range 380-400 kms would continue to remain relevant after 8 years ? Let's take an average of 12-15k kms / year of usage.

Imagine that battery & charging tech evolves so much (which seems realistic) that the EV from today doesn't hold up to any of it's equivalent variants in the future. To the extent that no one even wants to buy it second hand.

Lets put some different questions and perspective.

- I sleep for 8-9 hours and my EV car charges while I am asleep getting ready for me to use it in the morning. Down 8-10 or 15 years, I would still sleep 8-9 hours (or maybe somewhat more) and my car still charges and ready for me in the morning.

- In a day I can comfortably drive 500 Kms long distance (with maybe 1 or 2 breaks). After 8-10 years, that distance would still measure 500 Kms and an evolved EV that can cover >700 Kms gives me almost the same value.

- As EVs go more than 700 Kms, I would start to gain diminished rate of return even if the EV is more capable, charge faster, but your EV would still be good enough if well maintained to cover much more KMs unless ofcourse you got bored or upgraded your lifestyle further.

- If you still sell off that EV, the 2nd owner can still travel maybe 200 km at the cost of electricity and enjoy the low re-sale, then why would he/she want to buy an old ICE car that has a higher re-sale (which would also thus get hit), and guzzles more fuel than the value it provides. That is my humble opinion.

Originally Posted by kandyfloss

True, that it's a decision of buying what its offering 'Today' but when you spend 20+L on a piece of machinery, I'd for sure want to account for what the future holds in it - think maintenance, evolving tech, quality of service or experts in the market, infra etc.

Absolutely. I have a mental block at 20L+ for EV (as of today). But there are marvelous options below 20L too.

[notme]

Originally Posted by saurabh_TB

Hello Fellow Creta Electric Owners,

I recently purchased the Creta Electric LR. I am thinking of installing a 3-phase home AC charger as the 3.3KW charging takes a really long time, and I need to decide between the 11kw and 22kw version. The price diff. is not that much (~4k). The wiring requirements/cable size is also the same(10 sq mm).

I can't seem to find the info anywhere that tells me the max AC fast charger rating for Creta Electric. Would it support 22KW charging, or should I stick with the 11KW version?

Any guidance on this would be most helpful. Thx.

-Saurabh

p.s. Here are some pics of the car at a local detailing studio, where they are trying to make it look like an N-line with darked-out grey bits.

It supports 11KW AC charger, Check here,

https://www.hyundai.com/in/en/find-a.../specification

But you need to check whether you've the sanctioned load from Electricity board.

[DieselAnna]

We bought home our first EV. Its the Executive Variant. For the first time, we have purchased the Base Variant because its so well kitted and has all the usable features. Only negative was that it was available only in white. The main purpose of this car is its going to be our errand car, driven by driver. The backseat was the winner in this car. We checked all other options and only Windsor had better backseat but overall as a package, Windsor didn't make the cut.

The delivery process was smooth. Everything was kept ready by the showroom. They handed over the key and gave us the demo. Unfortunately, the Blulink app wasn't connecting during Demo. I am yet to resolve it. The learning curve is so simple in the Creta, except the unique placement of shift lever, everything is directly a lift from the ICE variant. No unnecessary messing up. All important controls like AC, Media, Cruise Control, Steering mounted controls are as per our regular muscle memory (read easier for drivers). Special mention for providing a full size spare wheel, unlike some manufacturers who expect you to sit and repair punctures, as if puncture repair guys don't have one .

I haven't installed the Home Charger yet, will do it this week. Hyundai doesn't give a charger with any of the variants. They charge 73k extra for a 11kW wall charger. Plus even that isn't sold with the base variant (god knows why). However, it turned out better for me because a known friend had a 7kW Exicomm wall charger lying unopened, which came with their XUV400. Their building didn't allow individual charger installation, instead they provided a common charging station.

The car was fully charged by the showroom and at 100% it showed 383kms range. I used 70kms in 2 days and charge has dropped to 86%, showing a range of 320kms. I have used Normal and ECO mode with Level-1 regen till now. Level-2 is a tad bit aggressive, I was not comfortable in moving traffic. I didn't even try the Level-3 and I-pedal. I am the only person who has driven this car till now at home and so these are my opinions. My Dad and driver are yet to try this car. With my city driving speeds and as per mid, it shows consumption of 7.3km/wh approximately. Honestly, range was never my issue, its a city errand car which will be parked at home at night, so never away from a charger. We have 2 other Diesel cars for longer commute. Expecting their usage to drop now since EV running cost is low (for now).

Some random clicks. Because whats special in a White Creta

[carjack3090]

Creta Electric is not able to push past 1000 even this month. Their combined sales in last 3 months is still not breaching 2000 (a number they expected to do monthly with their EV). It is time to readjust your strategy Hyundai, no point reaping in mammoth profits of Creta EV and spoiling your future plans

[kandyfloss]

Originally Posted by avchrono

Lets put some different questions and perspective.

- I sleep for 8-9 hours and my EV car charges while I am asleep getting ready for me to use it in the morning. Down 8-10 or 15 years, I would still sleep 8-9 hours (or maybe somewhat more) and my car still charges and ready for me in the morning.

- In a day I can comfortably drive 500 Kms long distance (with maybe 1 or 2 breaks). After 8-10 years, that distance would still measure 500 Kms and an evolved EV that can cover >700 Kms gives me almost the same value.

- As EVs go more than 700 Kms, I would start to gain diminished rate of return even if the EV is more capable, charge faster, but your EV would still be good enough if well maintained to cover much more KMs unless ofcourse you got bored or upgraded your lifestyle further.

- If you still sell off that EV, the 2nd owner can still travel maybe 200 km at the cost of electricity and enjoy the low re-sale, then why would he/she want to buy an old ICE car that has a higher re-sale (which would also thus get hit), and guzzles more fuel than the value it provides. That is my humble opinion.

I love this perspective, makes a whole lot of sense - thank you!

[shyampsunder]

Originally Posted by kandyfloss

True, that it's a decision of buying what its offering 'Today' but when you spend 20+L on a piece of machinery, I'd for sure want to account for what the future holds in it - think maintenance, evolving tech, quality of service or experts in the market, infra etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the sheer driving experience of an EV but I'm not in a position to be 'loose' with my money hence the careful evaluation. I wonder if there's an ICP for EVs on offer in the market today.

A few things to keep in mind:

1. A car is a depreciating asset. No two ways about it. We all look at only the purchase price - selling price and calculate the monetary damage but the biggest cost which is the oppurtunity cost of that money being invested is missed. A car is a major money sink whether it's a fancy EV or a mature robust Toyota. The only way you get ahead of this is by buying a good car and using it for a minimum of 10 years like GTO suggests. But if you are convinced and like to keep switching cars every 3 to 4 years I will definitely suggest not getting an EV.

2. Most buyers in the market are looking to buy a car. Propulsion technology comes next. It's a means to an end. I bought my ZS EV 2.5 years ago when the same solid state, 10 minute charging etc were spoken about. I don't miss anything in the current lot of EVs selling at the price I paid all those years ago. In fact, my experience has only gotten better because there is atleast a 10x growth in EV charging infra as EV sales continue to grow. Road trips are a lot more fuss free today. If EVs continue evolving at the rate they are, you are more likely to have FOMO owning an ICE car than a competent EV like Creta. Resale values of even Toyotas will get impacted if a BYD gives customers 2x more reliability at a 10x cheaper running cost.

3. India is at the top of the table when you consider the tax delta between ICE and EVs. In a city like Bangalore a Creta N line is taxed at 68% vs 5% for the Creta EV when you consider GST + road tax. This is not going to last forever. So while you are thinking about evolving tech, do think about this as well.

Ultimately if you have the opportunity to wait, I do suggest waiting to see what options pop up in the next 6 months. If you need a car now, pick a car from what is available in the market and don't give importance to vapourware like solid state batteries.

[Comrade]

Originally Posted by DieselAnna

Some random clicks. Because whats special in a White Creta

congrats on the purchase. Creta EV seems like the sleeper choice that is jack of all trades!

Do I see leather wrapped steering? Brochure seems to say otherwise. Please do share more pics of the interiors. Executive variant has eluded youtubers so far.

[axm0316]

Today's round trip. Reached back with 13% battery left

[VaishnavChidamb]

Hey everyone,

I'm more or less in the same boat as Mr. @kandyfloss.

I’m planning to upgrade from i10 nios and am considering between the Creta N-Line and Creta EV. This will be my primary and only car.

My concerns are

Usage Pattern: About 80% highway, 20% city, likely under 10,000 km per year.

Highway Trips: with family on occasional highway trips (once or twice per quarter).

Charging Feasibility: I live in a rented place, so I’d have to discuss with my landlord about installing a charging point. Not sure if this would be feasible.

Head vs. Heart Dilemma: Financially, the EV makes sense, but my heart leans towards the N-Line for the driving engagement of an ICE car.

Would love to hear your thoughts! Is an EV practical in my case, or should I go with the N-Line for peace of mind? Anything else I should consider before deciding?

Thanks in advance!

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by VaishnavChidamb

Hey everyone,

I'm more or less in the same boat as Mr. @kandyfloss.

Head vs. Heart Dilemma: Financially, the EV makes sense, but my heart leans towards the N-Line for the driving engagement of an ICE car.

Would love to hear your thoughts! Is an EV practical in my case, or should I go with the N-Line for peace of mind? Anything else I should consider before deciding?

Thanks in advance!

The Creta EV is a worthy choice as a well priced mass market EV. Hyundai tests its cars pretty thoroughly before releasing them into the market. And their battery management is amongst the best.

1. Charging? Getting a plain simple 15A plug installed cannot be hard. No need for the separate ‘Charger’ per se. (I just charged my Kona from 53% to 100% over 4 hours today at home using a 15A standard plug.)
2. Road Trips? If your highway usage is in Southern India you really need not worry because the charging infrastructure is already excellent overall and is developing very rapidly too.
3. Range Anxiety? Creta EV will happily do 375-400kms one shot. (You’ll need to stop well before that, for various reasons.)
4. Quality? It is a very accomplished vehicle and very comfortable and well finished.
5. Driving Engagement? Once you drive the Creta EV, you’ll be quite pleasantly surprised. The performance is much much more ‘alive’ than any ICE vehicle can be. Honestly.
6. Economy? The EV will cost you 15% of what the Petrol vehicle will, for the same amount of kms being run. In terms of value delivery and economy, it is mind-bendingly fantastic. And this inexpensive nature will make you drive it freely and fearlessly.

I would urge you to do a test drive at least. You’ll also realise how much more fearless its wonderful suspension tuning and that 200mm GC makes you.

Take it from me, it is a no-brainer. And Im car mad.

I too was a vociferous nay-sayer to EV’s. I used to call them the ‘Work of the Devil’.

I have since, ‘Seen the Light’ and am full of contrition for the sins of Judgement that I earlier committed.

[It's Magic]

Originally Posted by VaishnavChidamb

Usage Pattern: likely under 10,000 km per year.
Head vs. Heart Dilemma: Financially, the EV makes sense, but my heart leans towards the N-Line for the driving engagement of an ICE car.

I would recommend going with an ICE car rather than an EV. An EV makes more sense for high running usage, such as exceeding 15,000 or 20,000 kms per year.

I suggest you opt for the Creta N Line, as that seems to be where your heart truly lies, doesn’t it? Additionally, you won’t have to seek permission from your landlord for a charging point, and it will provide you with peace of mind during your motorway journeys as well.

Best Of Luck!

[Voltzzzzz]

Originally Posted by It's Magic

I would recommend going with an ICE car rather than an EV. An EV makes more sense for high running usage, such as exceeding 15,000 or 20,000 kms per year.

I think it is time to forget the year old, outdated ICE vs EV cost analysis when Nexon EV LR was priced upwards of 20L with a premium of over 3L compared to Nexon Petrol.

Since the launch of Windsor, Nexon petrol top end costs more than Nexon EV. Keep in kind petrol top end is Fearless variant and EV top variant is Empowered Plus variant. Variant to variant Nexon EV is lot cheaper than petrol.
Also Creta N line costs same as Creta EV top variant.

Only two things to consider now
1. whether one can arrange atleast a 15A point in one’s parking.
2. Test drive both the cars and then decide which way your heart goes.

Financially creta EV beats creta N line hands down even in low usage conditions in current scenario.

[kandyfloss]

After a lot of research, I think I'm ready to sign up for the 'extra work' involved with charging on longer trips.

There's something holding me back - I see multiple instances of battery warranty claims being rejected due to water ingress, that too apparently without any unusual driving situations (as claimed by owner)

Given that I live in Mumbai, bad (read terrible) roads and flooding are two very real threats that every car owner is faced with.

Considering the grey areas in EV insurance / warranty, do we expect to hit roadblocks in future? (within warranty period or otherwise)
For instance - cases of insurance and SC battling it out over prolonged periods of time on how an expensive repair will be covered.

On a different note - If EVs rise as per projections, do we expect waiting queues at charging stations in future?