[SR5471]

Originally Posted by PMSreenivas

Went to showroom today since SA earlier said that they will mostly give the car today. But same story today as well. Mahindra didn't unlock the VIN. Asked me to wait till Tuesday and they will give it by then. I'm giving it up now. I had postponed my trip multiple trips hoping I would get the car. Just going ahead with my trip. Not trusting any new dates anymore.

Dealer said they have 31 cars blocked like this. Mahindra could be trying to release all these cars after may be one more update with as many fixes as possible for the issues they have right now (Just my guess. Nothing is being told from Mahindra end. Hope I'm correct.)

Let's see how it goes and when will they give the car.
Delay is fine as long as there was a communication. But...

Is this update run remotely through internet or do they use a computer to update the car? Why can't this be done at the factory itself? My cousin had a similar experience buying a Tata Nexon. He paid the full amount when the dealer told him the car was ready. When he reached the dealer they told him it was the wrong variant. The excuses were many and many days were wasted. So we had a strong word with the sales manager and after that the car was delivered in two days. The experience of getting a car after paying the first emi is not a nice one.

[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by PMSreenivas

Went to showroom today since SA earlier said that they will mostly give the car today. But same story today as well. Mahindra didn't unlock the VIN. Asked me to wait till Tuesday and they will give it by then. I'm giving it up now. I had postponed my trip multiple trips hoping I would get the car. Just going ahead with my trip. Not trusting any new dates anymore.

Dealer said they have 31 cars blocked like this. Mahindra could be trying to release all these cars after may be one more update with as many fixes as possible for the issues they have right now (Just my guess. Nothing is being told from Mahindra end. Hope I'm correct.)

Let's see how it goes and when will they give the car.
Delay is fine as long as there was a communication. But...

Originally Posted by SR5471

Is this update run remotely through internet or do they use a computer to update the car? Why can't this be done at the factory itself? My cousin had a similar experience buying a Tata Nexon. He paid the full amount when the dealer told him the car was ready. When he reached the dealer they told him it was the wrong variant. The excuses were many and many days were wasted. So we had a strong word with the sales manager and after that the car was delivered in two days. The experience of getting a car after paying the first emi is not a nice one.

I am not sure what the showroom peeps are doing here!

From what I understand, the first set of updates were done by Mahindra themselves. But the later updates were conducted by the individual dealerships.

For that, the dealership needs to get their staff trained to work on the BEVs, and then start acting upon the actual work of it.

So far, most dealerships are not doing a great job of this.

Plus given that I am seeing new owners almost every day, I think this is just some spiel being run by the dealerships.

[vaibhavgarg]

Originally Posted by yedukrishnan199

In case of a total loss scenario, the insurance payout will be based on the IDV minus depreciation (5% or 15% or more, depending on the age of the vehicle). Zero Dep will not override this depreciation in total loss cases. However RTI would ensure you receive the Invoice Price.

If we assume negligible difference in invoice vs IDV, for total loss after, say 7 months, when the depreciation is 15% what would be the payout in case of RTI vs Non-RTI

RTI = Invoice Value
Non-RTI = IDV - 15% ?

General search says, it Non-RTI will be IDV - 15% so even if EVs dont have much of a difference between IDV and invoice, it still seem useful to get RTI..

[Aryanised]

Originally Posted by kennethomas

It rained in Bangalore today so will probably take me 2x to reach home and I am looking forward to every minute of it

A perfect way to describe that feeling when we fall in love in our late teens and early 20s!! This is exactly what we men at least fealt- hoping ki somehow the traffic increases so that we can spend just a 'little' more time with that 'special person'. ✨️

In this case we are just a little older but that infatuation and adoreness of the thing still remains! Wow!!

[yedukrishnan199]

Originally Posted by vaibhavgarg

If we assume negligible difference in invoice vs IDV, for total loss after, say 7 months, when the depreciation is 15% what would be the payout in case of RTI vs Non-RTI

RTI = Invoice Value
Non-RTI = IDV - 15% ?

General search says, it Non-RTI will be IDV - 15% so even if EVs dont have much of a difference between IDV and invoice, it still seem useful to get RTI..

Yes, that is the case. Otherwise, insurers would not provide an RTI option in states with zero road tax. RTI allows you to get the full invoice price back, whereas without it, you would get only IDV depreciation.

If you want complete coverage, in the initial year, go for Zero Depreciation with an IDV of 95% of Invoice Price and RTI along with other add-ons as required, like Tyre Protect, Engine Protect, Consumables cover and so on.

Anyways, most companies provide RTI only up to 3 years, some up to 5 years, same too in case of Zero Depreciation (up to 5 years in most cases), so it is better to go for it in the unfortunate case that something happens.

Moreover, these premiums and amounts charged for these add-ons vary by state. Insurers know how much risk they are undertaking, and RTI cover would be more expensive in states like Kerala, where Road Taxes on EVs are quite high (up to 10%) whereas lower in states where it is 0%.

[PMSreenivas]

Originally Posted by ashishk29

I am not sure what the showroom peeps are doing here!

From what I understand, the first set of updates were done by Mahindra themselves. But the later updates were conducted by the individual dealerships.

For that, the dealership needs to get their staff trained to work on the BEVs, and then start acting upon the actual work of it.

So far, most dealerships are not doing a great job of this.

Plus given that I am seeing new owners almost every day, I think this is just some spiel being run by the dealerships.

I initially thought that the delay in delivery is caused by dealer itself. But after my yesterdays visit I'm not sure about anything.

My dealer didn't have a single EV in his showroom and service center yesterday. SAs were saying that the deliveries aren't getting cleared by the mahindra and they are under a lot of pressure from all the customers.
Showroom manager even suggested me to make a complaint to Mahindras customer care directly. He said he will give my car within an hour, if clearance is given since the vehicle is already ready for the delivery.

I made a complaint by calling the customer care yesterday afternoon. I was told that the complaint was raised and I would get a call back within 2 hours. I didnt get any call till now. All I expected was a reason for the delay and the timeline for my delivery but I'm getting nothing. Day by day I'm getting more irritated with this. If I don't get the car within this week or next, I am contemplating at cancelling my booking.

[puntolover]

Spotted Be6. The back stance is more imposing than the front. Definitely all other cars looks a decade old when compared to Be6.

[mgoel]

BE6 definitely looks out of the world and draw attention. Even car's double and triple the price does not look anything in front of this car. Having the car for 4 days and enjoying it's drive. Mahindra has done something exceptional !!

[Lobogris]

Originally Posted by officer416

Tesla's FSD is just hyped up by fanboys and those who have never sat or driven one, but in reality it's nothing special, especially when you put traffic and construction zones in the mix. I own one so I can vouch for it.

Tesla FSD is nothing short of an absolute miracle. You can be sitting in a parking lot of a mall or your home and you can enter a destination and the vehicle will itself take you there with normally no need for any intervention from the driver! It can change lanes, make complex turns, enter and exit highways, stop at traffic lights and proceed when green. It can even handle stop signs which are incredibly hard. In the US, a four way stop sign has a system that all vehicles come to a complete stop and the vehicle that got there first gets precedence and carries on after a full stop, followed by the vehicle that got there second and so on. Tesla can sense all this and negotiate it! Sometimes, there is a little confusion as two vehicles might inch forward at the same time due to confusion and Tesla can handle that as well as a human! It is nothing short of a miracle. Of course, there will be odd instances where there is something unusual going on like construction or some unmarked road and it is prudent to take over but it works almost all the time.

[officer416]

Originally Posted by Lobogris

Tesla FSD is nothing short of an absolute miracle. You can be sitting in a parking lot of a mall or your home and you can enter a destination and the vehicle will itself take you there with normally no need for any intervention from the driver! It can change lanes, make complex turns, enter and exit highways, stop at traffic lights and proceed when green. It can even handle stop signs which are incredibly hard. In the US, a four way stop sign has a system that all vehicles come to a complete stop and the vehicle that got there first gets precedence and carries on after a full stop, followed by the vehicle that got there second and so on. Tesla can sense all this and negotiate it! Sometimes, there is a little confusion as two vehicles might inch forward at the same time due to confusion and Tesla can handle that as well as a human! It is nothing short of a miracle. Of course, there will be odd instances where there is something unusual going on like construction or some unmarked road and it is prudent to take over but it works almost all the time.

Only on paper, not in real life application. It's now that they are starting limited robotaxi service in some part of California.

There is a reason its still in Beta, for now it's nothing more than a better version of adaptive cruise control.

Yes, totally miracle technology when it drives you on a railway track when train is coming. It will take long time for it to be road worthy.

[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by Lobogris

Tesla FSD is nothing short of an absolute miracle.

In theory. On paper. Reality is VASTLY different. In real life, it's a pipe dream.

There's a reason it's still in beta. There's a reason it has been beta for so long. They do not have the hardware for actual full autonomy.

Waymo has it nailed down. They are offering truly autonomous taxi services, where the driver's seat is going to be straight up empty.

There even was a video recently where Tesla straight up fails to detect a cartoon wall in front of it.

https://youtu.be/IQJL3htsDyQ?t=936

Teslas have the highest crash rate of any vehicle: https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveba...ny-auto-brand/

For a more detailed list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...opilot_crashes

In short, FSD is not even remotely what it's hyped up to be.

[BreeN95]

SHOCKING EXPERIENCE. Think TWICE before buying these eSUVs.

I'm a BE6 Owner for 2 weeks now. took delivery on 23rd March.

Today I was 20km away from home, had 20% Battery left showing 100kms left. Could have easily reached home.

BUT within a few minutes and under 2KMs the charge drained to 1%. Now I'm typing this post being stranded on the highway! Utterly heartbroken, unbearable that I can't rely on this car anymore. I feel so cheated.

I have attached the screenshots of reporting this to the WhatsApp group (check the time), within a few minutes the battery drained completely. I didn't travel more than 2Kms!!

Not only that I got a critical failure warning. It's lit on the instrumental console the moment I reached 20%. I don't know what to do. Can't connect to RSA as they lines are busy now - they gave me a number 18002096006 which is on hold forever.

I was in love with the vehicle, now I hate it.

These vehicles are NOT Reliable. buy it at your own risk. It's fun, yes. But getting stranded on a highway at 11pm at night, not fun at all!

I never imagined I would drive this car at 0% charge. It was crawling. WORST Experience Ever. I'm sure Mahindra is going to deny this and say it's a baseless claim like they did before.

My mistake for trusting mahindra, my mistake for being an early adopter.

[puntolover]

Originally Posted by BreeN95

Today I was 20km away from home, had 20% Battery left showing 100kms left. Could have easily reached home.

BUT within a few minutes and under 2KMs the charge drained to 1%. Now I'm typing this post being stranded on the highway! Utterly heartbroken, unbearable that I can't rely on this car anymore. I feel so

These vehicles are NOT Reliable. buy it at your own risk. It's fun, yes. But getting stranded on a highway at 11pm at night, not fun at all!

This is the scariest part. The situation might be even worse if you are with Family and on a highway or a forest area.

Peace of mind is at stake from now as you will think 10x more to take these eSUVs on highways.

Today I was convincing by Chacha to buy Xev 9e by replacing his Isuzu MUX but now we will wait a year for Mahindra to sort all the issues from the cars.

[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by BreeN95

BUT within a few minutes and under 2KMs the charge drained to 1%

That sucks buddy. I do have a few queries.

What mode was the car in? I don't think this was in range mode, and I don't see power saving was enabled either.
Car automatically recommends power saving mode when battery falls below 15%, had you done it then?

What was your driving pattern? Can you share the analytics of those 3 minutes? It should be available in the ME4U app as well as the car console.

How loaded was the car? Was it an uphill drive? Or a drive with increasing altitude?

Will be helpful to understand for all the other owners here.

This is the first such case I'm reading about.

[mgoel]

It's a new car and everyone here is aware the risk of niggles for first few months. I am personally avoiding talking car for any long distance trip. First, as a user we have to become comfortable with every features and characteristic of EV and this car in particular. Second, we need to see a predictable consistent behaviour of car. Just few days back we saw a youtuber [ who came in hindi big boss well ] troubled in his XEV 9E with just 200km range in full charge.