[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by vaibhavgarg

What kind of specs does an extension cord need for the 3.3Kv charging?

Any recommended products on amazon that people have used for other EVs and had good results?

My teammate who has a ZS EV has been using this: https://aha.store/product/ev-travel-charging-kit/
for the past couple of years. He picked the 4sqmm 25m variant. I am considering getting the same one.

[BreeN95]

Sweet surprise by mahindra, they have not updated the keys of both the BE 6 and XEV 9E to metal keys instead of the plastic keys we are used to seeing so far.

Check this youtube short:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHz7Rv4i4cs

I have also confirmed this with my SA and he has said the new keys have come already.

The only problem now is that deliveries are being delayed yet again. From 20th which is day after I'm getting to know from SA that they might move it again to 22nd which is Saturday.

Can't wait to get my hands on my Stealth black BE6.

What is everyone who is getting the car doing for paint protection?

[kennethomas]

Hi Everyone - I have some concerns I needed advice from the more experienced folks on this forum.

This will be my second car; my first one was a Swift Manual that I used for 2 years when I absolutely needed one for ferrying around my kid. The car was on subscription and it was a good reliable vehicle in which I drove about 22k in about 25 months. Once the subscription was completed I surrendered the vehicle back.

The current situation:
I have a my allotment done for C11, but I will most likely be opting out of the charger unless they can give me a C7. Payment is complete only the PDI and registration remain.

They are not able to do the registration without invoicing and that isn't happening because Mahindra's systems aren't allowing it. Apparently the invoicing will be allowed on 20th, which means the registrations will happen on 21st. If all goes well the delivery should happen by 25th or so I guess.

My concerns are on two prongs.

Problem 1: The electricity.
BESCOM in Bangalore is notorious for not making it easy at all to upgrade or increase a sanction load. The only way to do it was through a contractor and be creative with the solutioning. Thankfully I have had some luck here.

My building has three floors. The ground floor and first floor are commercial spaces and the 2nd floor has two houses. I live in one of them. There are 4 meters in total.

The ground floor meter is a 10KW + 0BHP meter. Lets call this M0.
The rest of them including mine are at 2KW + 0BHP. Lets call mine as M2.

The solution I came to was swapping the meter allotment from M0 to M2 and M2 to M1. What this would mean, according to the contractor, is to have the M2 made into a commercial meter and given to the ground floor folks which is a studio that uses just lights and fans twice a day for not more than 8 hours a day. Simultaneously the idea was to change M0 to the residential tariff and use that to connect to my charging station.

Here are the concerns with this, provided there are no other issues: My owner is stating that in case the GF people vacate and some other commercial business comes asking for more allotment, I will have to reverse the entire set up and figure out something on my own. On asking for additional sanctioned load, he simply put up his hands and said that I can do it on my own but he will not be contributing to the deposit at all. Given that its a hefty affair that option is out.

The other option I have is to use the electricity from the M0 without changing anything but paying the ground floor folks for the usage. The unit price says Rs. 8 per unit in comparison to 5.6 for my residential home.

I'm completely confused on what the right thing to do here which doesn't burn my pockets unnecessarily.

Problem 2: PDI
Apparently I cannot do the PDI at the stockyard, because, and I quote "folks have been going to the stockyard, taking pictures of the cars standing in the dust etc and been posting on team-bhp.com. I had a sly smile on my face while I was listening to this. So essentially I won't be able to go to the stockyard. Anyway, hence the PDI will be at the showroom which is around 25kms from the stockyard which would mean, adding around 100 kms on the ODO. Should I just let this be? They're assuring me that they also do a PDI when they receive the vehicles at the stockyard and I'm inclined to trust them because a. its a new vehicle so definitely not "old stock" and b. haven't seen too many threads here on Mahindra delivering damaged goods.

Any and all advice will be appreciated. This will be my first ever proper car and I would love for it to go without any regrets in the future.

[kennethomas]

Originally Posted by BreeN95

What is everyone who is getting the car doing for paint protection?

Getting it done through a trusted franchise with a 7 year warranty. Can't share the price because the supplier gave me a good price after I compared it with a bunch of places.

I can ask the manager to get in touch if someone is interested but this is in Bangalore (Koramangala).

[wooka]

Originally Posted by ashishk29

My teammate who has a ZS EV has been using this: https://aha.store/product/ev-travel-charging-kit/
for the past couple of years. He picked the 4sqmm 25m variant. I am considering getting the same one.

I like this barring the lack of a waterproof socket and probably hollow plug pins.
The better 25A plugs generally are solid pins.

We have enough info at hand to go ahead and implement something like this or better.

For instance, I would use a Havells shockguard (pRCD) socket top on 2.5mm armored cable.

Similar polarity checkers are something I already use when travelling esp in hilly regions.

Misc question - do the MnM EVs support tow charging? I know it's a bad idea generally, but technically, does anyone see a reason why it wouldn't work?

[masterkjn]

Originally Posted by kennethomas

Getting it done through a trusted franchise with a 7 year warranty. Can't share the price because the supplier gave me a good price after I compared it with a bunch of places.

I can ask the manager to get in touch if someone is interested but this is in Bangalore (Koramangala).

Make sure they know how to handle an electric car. If they blast the charge port or the sensitive sensors with a pressure washer - might damage the sensors or worse leave your car bricked.

[Nikhilvm4]

Originally Posted by ashishk29

Ahhhhhhhh the delivery process has just taken 5 days so far but to me it's feeling like ages.

I got an allotment confirmation on Tuesday. I completed all the finances by Thursday. Friday was a holiday here so unfortunately that took a day out. And that brings us to Monday. Feels weird that finances took only like 2 days to sort, and the rest of the process is taking a whole week.

@ashishk29 Could you please confirm the dealership through whom you have booked. Every dealership seems to be cooking up different stories.

[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by Nikhilvm4

@ashishk29 Could you please confirm the dealership through whom you have booked. Every dealership seems to be cooking up different stories.

I've heard/read this update thing from a few other places as well, but not sure.
I've booked at Shiv Pimpri.

[aantony]

Originally Posted by ashishk29

I've heard/read this update thing from a few other places as well, but not sure.
I've booked at Shiv Pimpri.

I have also had similar story now. CRM spoke to me saying that they cant deliver the allotted vehicle as its not accepting an update and need to bill a new vehicle for me. This means the delivery for me would be delayed. lost my patience and trust. Planning to cancel the booking

[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by aantony

I have also had similar story now. CRM spoke to me saying that they cant deliver the allotted vehicle as its not accepting an update and need to bill a new vehicle for me. This means the delivery for me would be delayed. lost my patience and trust. Planning to cancel the booking

I would recommend against it.

Getting deliveries of a first batch, first lot, extremely high-tech car like this within 1-2 weeks is pretty fast overall, or so I feel.

IMO it's worth waiting.

Software bugs happen. Isn't it a decent thing that they're internally allocating a new car for you because of that issue?

[varkey]

Originally Posted by kennethomas

Here are the concerns with this, provided there are no other issues: My owner is stating that in case the GF people vacate and some other commercial business comes asking for more allotment, I will have to reverse the entire set up and figure out something on my own. On asking for additional sanctioned load, he simply put up his hands and said that I can do it on my own but he will not be contributing to the deposit at all. Given that its a hefty affair that option is out.

The other option I have is to use the electricity from the M0 without changing anything but paying the ground floor folks for the usage. The unit price says Rs. 8 per unit in comparison to 5.6 for my residential home.

What would be your monthly run or electricity consumption? Say 2-3 charges a month, would come to approximately 140-200 units. With Bescom, the per unit cost for residential use is Rs 5.9 + 9% tax + fuel surcharge, and for commercial its Rs 8 + 9% tax + fuel surcharge. The fuel surcharge is common so not taking that into consideration. This means a per unit cost difference of Rs 2.3.

Now, the 10 kW connection (if converted to LT-1 residential tariff) would have a fixed cost of Rs 120 per kW, that means Rs 1200 per month. Your current fixed cost would be Rs 240 per month ie an extra Rs 960 just in fixed cost. You need to use more than 420+ units each month just for charging to break-even the increase in fixed cost of using a 10 kW connection.

You are better off with option 2 if all you need to pay is the per unit costs as per usage and if your usage is below 400 units. You wouldn't need to bother about meter swaps and tariff changes either.
Even if your usage per month is higher than 400 units, I think option 2 is still better considering the overhead for meter swap, and tariff changes. This wouldn't come for free anyway and there would be a fee and "service charge" involved.

[darkgamer]

I spoke to my SA today and according to them the car is massively delayed and at least in Bengaluru there will be zero deliveries in March. They will just bill and invoice it to meet their targets. The first batch should come in early April, but even that would be lucky by how things are going so far

Honestly the car seems to be a vapourware to me now. No media reviews, constant delays and software update seems to be bricking vehicles. I think Mahindra has not at all figured out software with this car. They can't advertise this car as having OTA updates and then even Mahindra folks struggling to get the cars updated for 10+ days, delaying any deliveries.

This whole thing just seems shady to me. I'm not even sure that the car is fine to go ahead with. This is not beta testing, but pure alpha level unfinished software and Mahindra seems to be too scared to let anyone review it shows their level of confidence in the product being issue free.

This car had great promise, but I don't think I'm brave enough to plonk 30+ lakhs on an unfinished car. Tariffs might be coming down in the next couple months too, which might be interesting to watch.

[kennethomas]

Originally Posted by varkey

What would be your monthly run or electricity consumption?

This is extremely helpful. I will speak to the owner and see if we can come to an arrangement for the electricity units consumed.

Thank you so much!

[ashishk29]

Originally Posted by darkgamer

Honestly the car seems to be a vapourware to me now. No media reviews, constant delays and software update seems to be bricking vehicles. I think Mahindra has not at all figured out software with this car. They can't advertise this car as having OTA updates and then even Mahindra folks struggling to get the cars updated for 10+ days, delaying any deliveries.

That's a bit of an extreme view?

I test drove the car myself, and even self-park was working fully, with zero issues at that. For that matter everything in the car worked. Groove me, powered tailgate, HUD, navigation, sunroof etc etc. I can't think of a single thing that didn't work.

There have been no reports of bricking. Not sure where you're getting that from.

Also they did do the media reviews? That's what this thread itself is?

Originally Posted by darkgamer

This whole thing just seems shady to me. I'm not even sure that the car is fine to go ahead with. This is not beta testing, but pure alpha level unfinished software and Mahindra seems to be too scared to let anyone review it shows their level of confidence in the product being issue free.

If they haven't delivered any cars, it's not alpha or beta testing. It's pre-release. A manufacturer is free to make any number of updates/changes prior to release.

If they're making updates and changes prior to delivery that's a good thing? Would you rather encounter some issue just days after delivery?
I mean look at the VW EPS failures for what post-release issues look like.

Originally Posted by darkgamer

This car had great promise, but I don't think I'm brave enough to plonk 30+ lakhs on an unfinished car. Tariffs might be coming down in the next couple months too, which might be interesting to watch.

I mean that's your prerogative. Saying "The car had great promise" about a car that isn't even on the roads yet is a bit much.

The tariffs have huge terms and conditions attached. Each company will have to make substantial investments, with guarantees of future expansion for the next N number of years.

Also, I'd much rather buy this than a Tesla. Those things are poorly built AF and they aren't even first generation. Plus they are specced poorly for what they cost. 32L for a 57kWh battery in a poorly built car? No thanks.

Mahindra hadn't promised any delivery dates to begin with. They'd just mentioned "mid-March" in their initial approach. We all knew this.

[beemer5499]

Originally Posted by aantony

Note : I will be using 3.3 KW for my car and opted out the charger and settled the problem once and for all stating the inability to install 7/11 KW charger.

Please share how did you manage to opt out of the 7/11 Kw charger as my SA is saying it’s not possible in the first batch of deliveries since Mahindra has billed the cars along with the charger to the dealers.

I really do not wish to wait for the second batch as god knows how long the waiting will be for the same.

In case you can share any written communication from your dealer and the process, this will help everyone out!