[myavu]

Total disappointment.

No Pack 2 79

Pack 2 59 doesn't have a 360 cam.

Will wait for Harrier 75 now. Hope they will undercut Pack 2 59 and add a 360 cam in that price point.

Rear seat headroom and under-thigh support are not a mandate for me. Hence, can live with a non-skateboard design.

[avchrono]

Well the coupe design destroyed it for me no matter which variant I consider, the much needed head space is not going to be better anyhow, nor is the ingress/egress difficult access.

[agambhandari]

Originally Posted by myavu

Total disappointment.

No Pack 2 79

Pack 2 59 doesn't have a 360 cam.

Will wait for Harrier 75 now. Hope they will undercut Pack 2 59 and add a 360 cam in that price point.

Rear seat headroom and under-thigh support are not a mandate for me. Hence, can live with a non-skateboard design.

Skateboard design of the BE6 does nothing to give better back seat. The seat is too close to the floor and one has to sit knees up (like 3rd row of most cars), The backseat is not usable for adults in my opinion

[Auto_guy_101]

I had called up Mahindra on Monday to check about the vehicle availablity and got to know it was on display in the Kalamaserry Showroom at Kochi. They were offering test drives too from Wednesday and I went to check it out. This car leaves the best first impression I've had from anything other than the German trio. The highlight for me was how the design masked it's size and made it seem somewhat compact (like the tight and proportionate design language used by some luxury brands). The huge wheels also made it look ready to tackle anything (I got a W motors Lykan hypersport like feeling).

Coming to the rear seat, the ingress/ egress was far better than the curvv. The seat is a good climb up and the rear cabin is pretty empty feeling. While the position left lot to want the space on offer was really good. Boot was also pretty reasonable (my family likes to travel with a loaded boot). The climb up is something family will have to test out though.

Lastly, the front seats - my recently healed sprained left ankle gave me some warning when I stepped in normally, but attempt 2 with my leg further in was better. I sit a little laid back and keep an arms lenght from the steering. Seating position takes time and multiple adjustments for me in any car. However, this one was super frustrating with the steering fouling against my thigh. There was a slight sense of discomfort for me. Couldn't and didn't take a test drive due to time constraints. The front cabin was pretty well put together. Other than the strap pull to open, I liked everything about the front seats.

I'll be taking a test drive in a couple of weeks. Thinking of either pack 1 or pack 1 79 kwh.

[_NVN_]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

Delivery details and complete pricing for the BE6 and the XEV9e

Really attractive prices for pack 2, These new Mahindras sure have my attention even though I am not in the market for a new Car.

I will wait for an year atleast before I put down my money and my preferred variant is Pack 2 which covers all of the bases without the addition of adaptive suspension which will make one less major electronic component to worry about. Good work Mahindra

[thejaguar]

Originally Posted by darkgamer

I partially agree, to me this is how I feel about the variants:

Pack 1, pack 1 above 59: doesn’t make sense, it’s too barebones. You’re getting an EV but don’t even get the basic stuff like fog lamps or the killer sound system.

Pack 2 59: goldilocks. Has all the essential features added over pack 1. For anyone looking at VFM variant, this is it. The added kit is easily worth the extra over pack 1 and then some,

Pack 2 79: Should have existed. If it did, I’d have bought it.

Pack 3 59: Meh, doesn’t make sense. Doesn’t even add all the gizmos over pack 2. Misses out on L2+ Adas and the AR stuff. I’m in Bengaluru with the weird tax over 25 lakhs, but I’d still pay the extra 5 lakh for the big battery

Pack 3 79: Actually packs everything. The only thing I’m hesitating over is the added tax in Karnataka for this specific variant which isn’t ideal. But I do one road trip almost every month, so the added battery would be worth it. It adds ~50 bhp too which is honestly nice, and some added gizmos and faster charging. If you can spend, easily worth it even in Karnataka. Outside Karnataka it’s a no brainer over the pack 3 59.

Where are you seeing that Pack 3 Select doesn't have L2 Adas? L2 Adas starts from pack 2 itself (1 radar instead of 5 - not sure how much of a difference this makes in India). Other than ambient lighting and HUD, everything else is almost the same as full pack 3 (obviously with the smaller battery). For many of us who plan on using this as a city car, 59 kwh is more than sufficient.

[darkgamer]

Originally Posted by thejaguar

Where are you seeing that Pack 3 Select doesn't have L2 Adas? L2 Adas starts from pack 2 itself (1 radar instead of 5 - not sure how much of a difference this makes in India). Other than ambient lighting and HUD, everything else is almost the same as full pack 3 (obviously with the smaller battery). For many of us who plan on using this as a city car, 59 kwh is more than sufficient.

I said pack 3 select doesn’t have L2+ adas (the + is important). The full fat pack 3 has more sensors and a bunch of more ADAS features. Pack 2 and 3 select just get adaptive cruise control, which I admit is important.

If you plan to use it just as a city car, I think the BE6 is overkill anyway(punch, nexon, Windsor will do the job just as well). And the bigger battery pack isn’t just more range, it’s also 50 more bhp faster charging.

[invidious]

Competitive pricing indeed. I expect serious price cuts on the Curvv EV now

Does Mahindra make far too less on such feature loaded cars or are the other manufacturers just greedy? Globally a Suzuki or a Hyundai must be leveraging economies of scale and getting better rates from suppliers, no? Or am I missing something ?

[GP3601]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

Delivery details and complete pricing for the BE6 and the XEV9e

The digital Ad looks fine, but the paper advertisement seems a bit odd and I found it offensive to see Mahindra being a bit too liberal with their 'choice of words'. For a company that has built the new electric series cars by collaborating with other car manufacturers, I find the choice of words to be bit off track.

[bakedkoala]

Originally Posted by thejaguar

Where are you seeing that Pack 3 Select doesn't have L2 Adas? L2 Adas starts from pack 2 itself (1 radar instead of 5 - not sure how much of a difference this makes in India). Other than ambient lighting and HUD, everything else is almost the same as full pack 3 (obviously with the smaller battery). For many of us who plan on using this as a city car, 59 kwh is more than sufficient.

I guess, the definition of ADAS levels hasn't been standardized yet in India. The only ADAS related feature they have mentioned is ACC and autopark. I own an MG Astor which has a lot more useful ADAS functions which only the top spec 79kWh variant has. I especially find the lane keep assist, blindspot monitor and rear cross traffic alert useful, which isn't available in the 59kWh variant here (marketed as an L2 ADAS system). Besides, I'm not sure if they'd use the additional radars for autopark but if they do, I'd always have second thoughts using it in Pack 3 Select with only 1 radar.

[mally2]

Can anyone explain what is the difference between L2 and L2+. What will L2 miss? Also does any one know if the 59kw battery will have lower floor board and better under thigh support.

[darkgamer]

Originally Posted by mally2

Can anyone explain what is the difference between L2 and L2+. What will L2 miss? Also does any one know if the 59kw battery will have lower floor board and better under thigh support.

I’m just phrasing all the difference between pack 3 select and pack 3 (full)

Performance
• 79 kWh Battery Pack
• Superfast Charging Capability: 20 to 80% in just 20 min with 175 kW DC Charger
• Best-in-class Power of 210 kW with 79 kWh battery pack
Design
• LightMeUp - Ambient lighting with 16
Million colours - integrated in Interiors & Infinity Roof
• Night Trail - Carpet Lamps
Safety
• VisionX (ARHUD)
• L2+ ADAS with 5 Radars & 1 Vision Camera
•.Driver Initiated Auto Lane Change
• Lane centring & emergency steering assist
• Blind Spot Detection
• Front & Rear Cross Traffic Alert

Overall you get 4 more radar sensors in the full variant, which currently does these 4 features. But please note that these features might be expanded upon with software updates like Tesla FSD(wishful thinking, I know ). The below variants don’t have the additional sensors and won’t get equal functionality.

[sachinayak]

Was hoping there would be an industry standard for ADAS. But looks like either there is no clear demarcation or perhaps am looking at the wrong info.

Level 0 - No automation
Ideally, Blind Spot Monitoring and Lane Departure Warning are two examples of ADAS features that can fall underneath Level 0.

Level 1: Driver Assistance
Level 1 autonomy marked a significant step forward, introducing driver assistance systems such as adaptive cruise control and lane-keeping assist.

Level 2: Partial Automation
Automation includes several driving tasks, including acceleration, braking, and steering, but still require the driver’s vigilance and attention.

Now if I look at the feature list, Pack 1 has cruise control (but non adaptive). Pack 2 claims Level 2 ADAS (but only lists Adaptive Cruise control). Blind spot monitoring is listed only for Pack 3. I am hoping Pack 2 gets alerts and Pack 3 gets assists.

[LoGic142]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

Was hoping there would be an industry standard for ADAS. But looks like either there is no clear demarcation or perhaps am looking at the wrong info.

Level 0 - No automation
Ideally, Blind Spot Monitoring and Lane Departure Warning are two examples of ADAS features that can fall underneath Level 0.

Level 1: Driver Assistance
Level 1 autonomy marked a significant step forward, introducing driver assistance systems such as adaptive cruise control and lane-keeping assist.

Level 2: Partial Automation
Automation includes several driving tasks, including acceleration, braking, and steering, but still require the driver’s vigilance and attention.

Now if I look at the feature list, Pack 1 has cruise control (but non adaptive). Pack 2 claims Level 2 ADAS (but only lists Adaptive Cruise control). Blind spot monitoring is listed only for Pack 3. I am hoping Pack 2 gets alerts and Pack 3 gets assists.

I don't think pack 2 can even get alerts, as it only has one radar. I think 2 additional radars at the back are must for Blindspot and rear traffic related ADAS features.

I think Pack 2 ADAS will be equivalent or less than the 7OO's ADAS.

[kgt.v8]

Originally Posted by sachinayak

Now if I look at the feature list, Pack 1 has cruise control (but non adaptive). Pack 2 claims Level 2 ADAS (but only lists Adaptive Cruise control). Blind spot monitoring is listed only for Pack 3. I am hoping Pack 2 gets alerts and Pack 3 gets assists.

Pack2 gets 1 radar and 1 camera. This is the same setup used in XUV700 AX7 and AX7L variants. Pack2 feature set show ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control) only, so my assumption is ADAS feature set offered in Pack2 will be same as XUV700 AX7. It would have been good to get ACC with stop and go which is available in XUV700 AX7L available in Pack2.

Mahindra provides Lane Keep Assist (LKA) and Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) to be used simultaneously which is most likely why Mahindra advertises as ADAS Level2.

The only ADAS features I look for in car are
1. Lane Keep Assist (For long highway drives)
2. Blind spot warning (Usable in day to day city drives as it helps to detect bikes moving closely in blind spot)
3. Automatic Emergency Braking (To avoid crash on highway due to someone stopping in the middle of road)
4. Rear cross traffic alert (Usable when trying to get the car out from parking in reverse and the driver does not have visibility of who is coming behind due to cars parked on both the sides)