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Old 22nd January 2025, 21:17   #406
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

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I think Mahindra missed an opportunity here. They should have priced it neck and neck to ZS EV to grab a market share.
Should have priced both BE6E from 16.99 for base to 22.99 top model
ZS EV has a smaller wheelbase and it's in a lower segment size wise.

Until the pack 1 is actually available for delivery, none of the other EV makers will drop the price. The only car that can give the Mahindra a run for it's money will be a Windsor 50 kWh version that will be launched later this year.

We also do not know the price of the E-Vitara.

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Old 22nd January 2025, 21:38   #407
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

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I think Mahindra missed an opportunity here. They should have priced it neck and neck to ZS EV to grab a market share. Premium pricing from the get-go.

I assume these cars to have a 2.5-3 lakh discount towards the end of the year.

They forgot to see that EV market, even though it is growing, is still small, commercially biased and metro cities are only somewhat fit to support them.

Should have priced both BE6E from 16.99 for base to 22.99 top model

XEV- 19.99-25.99lakh
I think it's unfair to compare the BE6 to the ZS given how superior the specs are even at the bottom end. Was just comparing the BE6 to the more "premium" offerings in the EV market and the BE6 almost out-specs the EQB, the Atto3, and the ioniq5 in terms of battery size, motor power etc.

Can hardly expect it to be cheaper than a Creta EV with that kind of hardware involved.

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A common myth is that a larger battery pack like 79 kWh can only be charged by the 7kwh or 11 KWh chargers that are available for home installation. For all intents and purposes the portable charger that comes with the car and plugs to a 16A socket will do the job, and will not require to you either increase the sanctioned load for your house or set up a separate EV meter.

Of course it is true that the 3.3 kW portable charger will take over 24 hours to take the 79 kwh battery from 0 to 100%, and a faster 7 or 11 kw charger is very welcome, but most folks will be able to use the portable charger and charge from say 40 to 80% in about 10 hours and every once in a while let the car charge longer to go to 100%

Long story short, dont fret too much about the 7 or 11 kw charger. You are just fine with the humble 16 A socket in your parking.
This is very helpful. Thanks! I have asked the showroom rep to share all the details surrounding the charger options with me.

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Old 22nd January 2025, 21:59   #408
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

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I think it's unfair to compare the BE6 to the ZS given how superior the specs are even at the bottom end. Was just comparing the BE6 to the more "premium" offerings in the EV market and the BE6 almost out-specs the EQB, the Atto3, and the ioniq5 in terms of battery size, motor power etc.
I’ve had a chance to look at both the 9E and 6E. While the specs are certainly impressive, they still don’t compare to the EQ8 or Atto3 in terms of perfection, finesse, or reliability. With the reduction in GST and the significant drop in battery prices, I can’t help but feel that all EV manufacturers are taking customers for a ride.

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Old 23rd January 2025, 06:23   #409
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I’ve had a chance to look at both the 9E and 6E. While the specs are certainly impressive, they still don’t compare to the EQ8 or Atto3 in terms of perfection, finesse, or reliability. With the reduction in GST and the significant drop in battery prices, I can’t help but feel that all EV manufacturers are taking customers for a ride.
The EQB costs 70+ lakhs. So it's definitely not going to be comparable. The Atto 3 costs close to 34L on road here, which in my city is almost 5L over the BE6. Personally, I don't like the design philosophy of the Atto 3.

I have no idea what your indicators of "perfection, finesse, or reliability" are.
Perfection and finesse are incredibly vague terms. I've personally driven the BE6 and the overall build and finish feels pretty amazing. Except for that piano black everywhere thing.

My point was that on the tech front the BE6 offers MORE than either the EQB or the Atto 3, and yet costs less than half of the EQB, and a solid 5L below the Atto 3.

As for "EV" manufacturers supposedly taking the customers for a ride, I hope you read about the recent VW scandal? They basically declared they were importing replacement parts for their vehicles, and then used those parts in their CKD line to build new cars. All this to circumvent the taxes and duties around CKD cars.

About the GST reduction: https://cleartax.in/s/55th-gst-council-meet-news
As far as I understand this applies to EVs being sold by the first owner. I didn't see any reduction for first buyer. Please share some source if that is the case.

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This is a very complex thing. Mahindra uses the BYD blade batteries. We don't know if this price was changed in this price drop.

Overall, I don't know about you, but a car that gives more range than cars twice its price, has literally 5 RADARs, can self park, has a 282hp motor, doesn't feel overpriced at 29L on road. This will be lower if you opt for the 7kWh charger. Likely around 28L on road.

By comparison, the Creta EV is being sold at 23.5L for the top variant. It has a smaller battery than the BE6 base variant. BE6 base costs 20L. I'm not sure why they are supposed to be cheaper.
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Re: Mahindra XEV 9e Review

https://x.com/RajAryan2611/status/18...0%2Fframe.html

Check this link guys - interesting accident bringing technological dark side to life - Mahindra failing to start because of a sensor damage.

Don't know if it's true or not but indeed something to be careful with
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Re: Mahindra XEV 9e Review

When i went to test drive, BE 6 was not available. Sales person said that car met with a accident and needs software update. Looks like every minor accident which sales person is attributing to powerful car is taking car to service centre. It will be nightmare if it keep happening for end user. New platform and integration of so many diverse sets of equipment and software is sure to cause Mahindra and car owners some pain in the first year !!
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Re: Mahindra XEV 9e Review

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https://x.com/RajAryan2611/status/18...0%2Fframe.html

Check this link guys - interesting accident bringing technological dark side to life - Mahindra failing to start because of a sensor damage.

Don't know if it's true or not but indeed something to be careful with
This is true. I have seen this vehicle after accident. It happened near my home.
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This is true. I have seen this vehicle after accident. It happened near my home.
Interesting.... If this is then for any new cars these are some serious concerns...
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Old 23rd January 2025, 10:08   #414
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

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I’ve had a chance to look at both the 9E and 6E. While the specs are certainly impressive, they still don’t compare to the EQ8 or Atto3 in terms of perfection, finesse, or reliability. With the reduction in GST and the significant drop in battery prices, I can’t help but feel that all EV manufacturers are taking customers for a ride.
Merc EQB 350 costs 84L~ in Pune OTR. I am choosing the higher priced variant as that offers comparable power and range to the BE6 (288 BHP vs 280 on BE6).

The fact that BE6 is generating comparisons with a car costing nearly 3 times is no major feat! Think about it this way. The Tata Curvv Ev, Creta Electric, ZS EV are all priced within the ballpark of BE6. Ask yourself the question, with any of the above cars would you even think of comparing them with the Merc EQB?

Even if you think EV manufacturers are taking customers for a ride, Mahindra seems to be lesser of all the Evils and by a huge margin!

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Old 23rd January 2025, 10:44   #415
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

I was on my way back home from the office and I found BE6e on the way. This is no longer a surprise as it has been a long since the launch and I usually see both the M&M electrics almost every day during my commute near the Mahindra plant. But one thing I noticed this time was the rear tail lamp at night.

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I witnessed many cars with high-intensity LED tail/brake lamps making the drivers behind blind and irritating during bumper-to-bumper traffic. However, when I was tailgating BE6e it was not hurting that way. I believe this is a small but very crucial consideration by M&M.

Though looks sporty, the rear seems a little raised from the back to my eyes.

My feelings on BE6e and XEV9e are that it will attract most of the young generation drivers who are in their 30s but someone in their 40s may feel it is overdone.

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Re: Mahindra XEV 9e Review

My Mahindra EV team sales rep mentioned that the vehicles they have received are still pre-production ones and he his hoping the production ones should fix most of these niggles. The vehicle that met with the accident has the name as "BE 6e", so should be pre-production IMO.

However I do agree, Mahindra should do more on testing and quality control like the Japanese auto makers. Looks like they are on a rush to capitalize the marketing momentum from Auto Expo, and also the competition. On the positive side, the EVs support OTA updates for most of the software, and I hope they will continue to improve.
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

I have now test drive both the twins on two separate occasions, and have asked for a home visit too as I want to check if they will fit in my parking space. I won't go into the TD experience too much as it is already covered by many, but one thing I noticed was that the be 6 had a breakage in the wheel well piano black cladding. It was a small hole about 1 inch across which left the body beneath exposed. This bought out another disadvantage of the piano black wheel cladding and the large side strips. Besides being scratch magnets, due to then being very hard plastic, they seem to be very brittle. A sharp pebble breaks and cracks them. I pointed it out to the sales exec and he said many folks have the feedback about piano black outside and hopefully Mahindra listens for the next launches. I wish I had taken a photo. Will do that if they bring the same cars for the home visit.
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

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Is it possible to charge be6 thru 15amp at home like TATA EVs?
Yes indeed. These cars come with a portable charger that can be plugged into a 15A socket.
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

Mahindra answered for the stalled vehicle at Hyderabad!

But why towing was required if the vehicle is in running condition?

And vehicles got burnt at VVC Mahindra kondapur, reasons unknown but most probably because of electric vehicles. Visited the same showroom at noon and I felt some fluctuations happened in XEV 9e whenever I opened the door.

Attached few pics received in WhatsApp.

Hopefully everyone is safe!!
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Old 23rd January 2025, 23:05   #420
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Mahindra answered for the stalled vehicle at Hyderabad!

But why towing was required if the vehicle is in running condition?
You have a very valid question. If I remember the other car that was badly damaged was a Datsun GO and that car was driven away after the accident. The dealer should not have requested for towing the car if the car could be driven unless they were informed by Mahindra. It is easier to drive the car to nearest safe location instead of waiting for the car to be towed when you are out on the highway and your car gets hit.


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And vehicles got burnt at VVC Mahindra Kondapur, reasons unknown but most probably because of electric vehicles.
Did this happen in last 1 week after arrival of BEVs at Kondapur showroom?
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