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Old 6th December 2024, 09:10   #136
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Also, sorry for the noob question but most reviews mention an AWD version being launched at a later date. Could someone confirm whether adding motors to the front wheels would increase power or reduce the range?
It will increase the power and reduce the range. If you look at the figures of BYD Seal's 'premium' and 'performance' variants (both have the 82 kWh battery) you will get an idea.
Premium = 0-100 kmph in 5.9 secs. Range = 650 kms
Performance (AWD) = 0-100 kmph in 3.8 secs. Range = 580 kms
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Old 6th December 2024, 11:09   #137
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So I would want to buy this or the XEV9E, in near future (2027).

My queries-

1) I would be living in a apartment on the 15th Floor (currently under construction, possession due Sep 2025). While Mahindra has stated that the charger and installation cost would be separate, would it include getting the charger installed with the necessary wiring from the 15th floor or would it be directly connected to the meter at the bottom? I hope the installation cost and the necessary permissions for installing the 11 KW charger from government also would be done from Mahindra's side?

2) Maybe around 2030 or so I would be returning to my bunglow which is currently about 4 Km from the 15th floor apartment. Would it be possible to transfer the charging setup from there to the bunglow, at a marginal cost or would I need to purchase a separate 11Kw charger from Mahindra? I would be renting out the 15th floor apartment and may not require to charge at that place in future. The Bunglow has solar setup, so would it help in obtaining the necessary permissions from government easily?

3) As has been recommended I can also proceed with installation of 15A sockets at both locations, but considering the 79 KW battery pack, it will take approximately 30 hours to go from 0-100, which is a lot, hence thinking of going with 11Kw charger.

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Old 6th December 2024, 12:29   #138
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I can also proceed with installation of 15A sockets at both locations, but considering the 79 KW battery pack, it will take approximately 30 hours to go from 0-100, which is a lot, hence thinking of going with 11Kw charger.
Isn't that a top up of 100+ KM for everynight charge for ~9hrs?

I have seen many people shying away from 15 AMP scoket based charging and spending time and effort to get 7KW/11KW chargers in apartment parking, while i understand that it will be better to have 11KW charger as backup but for everyday city use isnt 100+ km sufficient, or am I missing soemtihng?
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So I would want to buy this or the XEV9E, in near future (2027).

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3) As has been recommended I can also proceed with installation of 15A sockets at both locations, but considering the 79 KW battery pack, it will take approximately 30 hours to go from 0-100, which is a lot, hence thinking of going with 11Kw charger.
Hi, I am assuming you drive 7 days a week and get charging time from 10pm to 7am (hopefully daily). A 79kWh battery will give you range (from 90% to 20%) roughly 370km to 390km. If your weekly running is around this much then you can charge your 9e at 10pm at night of Sunday for 9 hours and then again charge mid week some time e.g. on Tuesday for 9 hours and again on Friday for 9 hours. I don't see a reason for users to charge 100% every time if they can manage with 9 to 10 hours of slow charging twice or thrice a week.

Beside, getting 11kW electricity load, in addition to 5kW to 7kW electricity load for running electricity & appliances at home will be difficult & expensive in case of high rise apartment.
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Old 6th December 2024, 14:21   #140
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Isn't that a top up of 100+ KM for everynight charge for ~9hrs?

I have seen many people shying away from 15 AMP scoket based charging and spending time and effort to get 7KW/11KW chargers in apartment parking, while i understand that it will be better to have 11KW charger as backup but for everyday city use isnt 100+ km sufficient, or am I missing soemtihng?
For daily requirement I agree a 15 Amp socket with a 9 hour charge should give me atleast 40% range. However, I have one 500-600 Km trips on in 2 months on a weekend. I intend to start those trips with a 100% charge so I have to rely minimal on outside fast charging. Overnight charge won't be sufficient for me to charge it till 100 %.

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Hi, I am assuming you drive 7 days a week and get charging time from 10pm to 7am (hopefully daily). A 79kWh battery will give you range (from 90% to 20%) roughly 370km to 390km. If your weekly running is around this much then you can charge your 9e at 10pm at night of Sunday for 9 hours and then again charge mid week some time e.g. on Tuesday for 9 hours and again on Friday for 9 hours. I don't see a reason for users to charge 100% every time if they can manage with 9 to 10 hours of slow charging twice or thrice a week.
Isn't such frequent slow charging detrimental to battery health. I was thinking of charging it till 100% overnight using 11 Kw charger and once its down to 15~% again charge it through 11 Kw charger to 100%. This way for my monthly running of 800-900 kms, I might need to charge at most only twice per month. Would this be better for battery health or using the 15 amp socket over night charging about 8-10 times a month?

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For daily requirement I agree a 15 Amp socket with a 9 hour charge should give me atleast 40% range. However, I have one 500-600 Km trips on in 2 months on a weekend. I intend to start those trips with a 100% charge so I have to rely minimal on outside fast charging. Overnight charge won't be sufficient for me to charge it till 100 %.
Once in two months we can charge at a DC fast charger which are available nearby in most of the cities, isn’t it? Just trying to clear the understanding as this will be close to my use case as well, I live in rented apartment and its difficult to get around the bureaucracy.
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Isn't such frequent slow charging detrimental to battery health. I was thinking of charging it till 100% overnight using 11 Kw charger and once its down to 15~% again charge it through 11 Kw charger to 100%. This way for my monthly running of 800-900 kms, I might need to charge at most only twice per month. Would this be better for battery health or using the 15 amp socket over night charging about 8-10 times a month?
Hi, honestly with 900km monthly drive, you would only need to charge your XEV 9e once a week, probably Sunday night. I am assuming you drive 35km per day from Monday to Friday (your work place) and on Saturday & Sunday you drive maximum 20km to 30km. If we total this then your weekly drive will be 205km to 210km (assuming it to 225km).

A 79kWh battery XEV 9e will give you 100% to 10% range of 450km in any weather, which means when you put your XEV 9e on charge on Sunday night it will be close to 40% minimum. A 15A slow charger make it from 40% to 90% in 9 hrs to 10 hrs. of your available overnight charging duration.

Whenever you plan to do long drive, plan your charging in advance so that you will charge 40% to 90% on Sunday and charge it to 80% two days before departure and to 100% a night before.

Do check cost of installing 11kW charger at high rise apartment. In my case at Noida Extension, it will cost almost Rs.85000 to Rs.90000 to have 7kW charger (increasing my load from existing to additional 7kW load, if society association allow me to install 7kW charger at my charging point, which is not possible).

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Whenever you plan to do long drive, plan your charging in advance so that you will charge 40% to 90% on Sunday and charge it to 80% two days before departure and to 100% a night before.

Do check cost of installing 11kW charger at high rise apartment. In my case at Noida Extension, it will cost almost Rs.85000 to Rs.90000 to have 7kW charger (increasing my load from existing to additional 7kW load, if society association allow me to install 7kW charger at my charging point, which is not possible).
Makes sense. Somehow I had forgotten to do repeat charging for 10 hours on two preceding days before weekend, which will help me charge it to 100 %. But I am still curious will this affect the battery health in long term? Because if I have a 11 Kw charger, I will hardly need to charge about twice per month, but with 15 Amp socket, I may need to charge a bit more (7-8 times atleast, considering even the 500 km outstation trip).

Also I had not accounted that a high rise building will have its own hassles for charging. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Makes sense. Somehow I had forgotten to do repeat charging for 10 hours on two preceding days before weekend, which will help me charge it to 100 %. But I am still curious will this affect the battery health in long term? Because if I have a 11 Kw charger, I will hardly need to charge about twice per month, but with 15 Amp socket, I may need to charge a bit more (7-8 times atleast, considering even the 500 km outstation trip).

Also I had not accounted that a high rise building will have its own hassles for charging. Thanks for pointing it out.
Hi, as per my understanding multiple slow charging with 15A in a month will have no impact on battery health. However, in your specific case, there will not be multiple slow charging, it will be maximum once a week type.

On your outstation trips, you will only be required to charge it to 100% at home. Your next charging will be during your break mid way for breakfast or lunch at around 300km or so in a fast charger.

Don't worry about battery health. XEV 6e battery will have life of approx. 10 lacs km before it go down to below 80% level.

You appears to have battery health issue in back of your mind because of either iPhone battery health perception or mobile battery health in general. EV batteries are totally different.

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I am not sure why OEMs skimp on these useful, convenient features that don't cost much. Having all four one-touch windows also enables remote opening and closing of windows, which enables you to ventilate the car remotely moments before you board it. It also allows one to remotely close all the windows in situations when one forgets to close them before deboarding. My humble Ameo has this feature, and I learned to appreciate this feature a lot.
Just came across latest zigwheels video and you can open and close atleast the driver side window with the key itself! Good job then !
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So I would want to buy this or the XEV9E, in near future (2027).

My queries-

1) I would be living in a apartment on the 15th Floor (currently under construction, possession due Sep 2025). While Mahindra has stated that the charger and installation cost would be separate, would it include getting the charger installed with the necessary wiring from the 15th floor or would it be directly connected to the meter at the bottom? I hope the installation cost and the necessary permissions for installing the 11 KW charger from government also would be done from Mahindra's side?

2) Maybe around 2030 or so I would be returning to my bunglow which is currently about 4 Km from the 15th floor apartment. Would it be possible to transfer the charging setup from there to the bunglow, at a marginal cost or would I need to purchase a separate 11Kw charger from Mahindra? I would be renting out the 15th floor apartment and may not require to charge at that place in future. The Bunglow has solar setup, so would it help in obtaining the necessary permissions from government easily?

3) As has been recommended I can also proceed with installation of 15A sockets at both locations, but considering the 79 KW battery pack, it will take approximately 30 hours to go from 0-100, which is a lot, hence thinking of going with 11Kw charger.
Charger wiring will be from the meter. Maharashtra has EV charger installation policy where you can install Single phase 7kw charger at fixed unit prices for EV charging. Mahindra will offer you both 7kw and a 11kw charger option. If you have a closed parking in your society, i suggest you opt for a 7kw charger option with a separate meter as per state policy. If you're 100% sure of moving back to your bunglow, then yes you can transfer the charger from your apartment to your bunglow. 11kw charger will require 3 phase wiring i believe which is not covered in state policy.
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Charger wiring will be from the meter. Maharashtra has EV charger installation policy where you can install Single phase 7kw charger at fixed unit prices for EV charging. 11kw charger will require 3 phase wiring i believe which is not covered in state policy.
Actually at least in Bombay (BEST area), you can get a dedicated 3 phase connection with a fixed tariff for EVs and use a 11 KW charger. I have done that for my Ioniq, and I believe some neighbours with BMWs have fitted 22 KW chargers as well. As long as your society is ok, and you have space for an extra meter in the meter room, you should be fine.
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Mahindra renamed BE 6e as BE 6. However, Mahindra will contest the right to use the BE 6e name, in court

I think the trade dispute with Indigo is a blessing in disguise. BE 6 is better and easier to pronounce than BE 6e.

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https://www.autocarpro.in/news/mahin...-indigo-123870

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Mahindra renamed BE 6e as BE 6. However, Mahindra will contest the right to use the BE 6e name, in court

I think the trade dispute with Indigo is a blessing in disguise. BE 6 is better and easier to pronounce than BE 6e.

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https://www.autocarpro.in/news/mahin...-indigo-123870
If the wanted to keep the fun element that could have just renamed it to BE 6Y.

Although the BE 6 makes it sound saner.
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Old 7th December 2024, 21:08   #150
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Mahindra renamed BE 6e as BE 6. However, Mahindra will contest the right to use the BE 6e name, in court

I think the trade dispute with Indigo is a blessing in disguise. BE 6 is better and easier to pronounce than BE 6e.

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https://www.autocarpro.in/news/mahin...-indigo-123870
This is good I think. The renaming of BE 05 to BE 6e must have been marketing teams work and they did not do their prior research and rather opted to be tacky which was the worse decision IMO. M&M had done a great job on the packaging front and should have continued the BE 05 name as announced earlier. No one wants to call the car "Be Sexy". That's just plain stupid. Same goes for BE branding. I will always call it "Born Electric". If the renaming news is true, it is a blessing in disguise. Thank you Indigo
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