[drsachin]

Originally Posted by vijay3349

Hi drsachin. I have not added any details of my vehicle in ehub (not even registration number), but i am still able to avail the free charging benefit. There is a blue tab above the displayed chargers indicating 100% free charging for MG Windsor.

Thanks
So you have only choosen Windsor among the options and used your registered mobile number and it automatically displays free charging even without car Registration. But mine doesn't..

I got a call from MG today regarding the issue after my Email and as per them my car is still in invoicing stage and not showing as " Delivered" that's why this issue. But as per the dealer they have done everything from their end.
I really don't know why this circus by MG and their dealers. As per the dealer the issue is their with some of their Windsor buyers and I am not alone.

What does myMG app shows after you put your registered mobile number? Mine still shows "Booking on ____ date"?

[Voltzzzzz]

Originally Posted by drsachin

I got a call from MG today regarding the issue after my Email and as per them my car is still in invoicing stage and not showing as " Delivered" that's why this issue. But as per the dealer they have done everything from their end.

I think the delay is because of invoicing.
My app only shows VIN number. Using car since 2 months. Availed free charging and first free service.
I have manually added the registration number in eHUB app. I am even able to edit the registration number.

Once I had let my bro in law use the car. When he wanted to charge, all I had to do was install the eHUB by MG app in his phone and login using my phone number. Everything seems linked to our registered phone number and the car VIN.

[sharmanova]

MG Windsor sales stood at 3,785 units in December 2024.

[Chrome6Boy]

Originally Posted by drsachin

What makes ZS EV more safe compared to Windsor could you explain.
As far as I know both of them are not crash tested

This is the same car which is being sold in the EU, NZ and the UK. A simple Google search yielded the following.

I agree that this isn't the model which is on sale now, but the 2019 wasn't too far in the past.

[jashjacob]

Originally Posted by Ashwathama

2. I tested the 7.4 KW charger and it was charging at just 1.3KWh. I called the technician he said after 80% the charger charges slowly. Try when the battery is at 10-20%, it will use 7.4KW. So I will test this in a few days but has anyone faced the same?

You will find the charger reaches the peak output capacity when charging from the lowest SOC.

You can monitor the V & Amps through the Spin EV charging app for the charger.

[drsachin]

Originally Posted by Chrome6Boy

following.

I agree but these are EURO NCAP not Global NCAP so will not apply to Indian cars.
It has been seen widely that cars scoring 4-5 stars in Euro NCAP have scored poorly in India. Manufacturers do cut corners in indian manufactured cars.

None of Indian manufactured MG cars have ever been crash tested in Global or bharat NCAP so safety ratings are not known.

As far as specifications are concerned safety profile of both cars is same. So unless either bharat or global NCAP crash test these cars, you never know which one is safe.

The only thing which is better in ZS EV is ADAS may be just to position WINDSOR below ZS EV.

Another intresting thing I noticed is that when it comes to specifications as mentioned in the brochures or website. There is no mention of use of high strength steel in case of ZS EV but it's clearly mentioned in case of Windsor. In the era where even maruti started using high strength material and mention the same in the brochure ( As seen in newly launched Dzire). Other manufacturers who have started using high strength steel in frame always mention it.
Indian people are well aware of crash tests and use of high strength steel in frame why has it been omitted in the brochure of ZS EV is not clear to me. So I won't rely on crash test ratings of EURO NCAP

Please correct it if I am wrong

[Ashwathama]

Originally Posted by jashjacob

You will find the charger reaches the peak output capacity when charging from the lowest SOC.

You can monitor the V & Amps through the Spin EV charging app for the charger.

Thanks a lot. I tested my charger as you recommended and I got great output. Attaching an image below. For anyone else wondering, to find out how much KWH your charger is functioning at the forumla is Volts X Amps / 1000 = KWH

In jashjacob's case it would be 222.02 x 15.26 / 1000 = 3.388 KWH

In my case it is 235.48 x 29.73 / 1000 = 7.00082 KWH

Yes it is 0.4kwh less than what the charger states but I am charging above 80% maybe that's why.

Originally Posted by CarCanvas

I have seen this in many cars and it is by design. Due to some reason one orvm lags another.

Originally Posted by UrbanRider

After seeing your post, I do realize the the left side is slightly faster than the righ. It should be a design factor and almost all windsors must behave the same so we can cool off on this one.

I asked the executive who visited my home for a follow-up. He didn't have a concrete answer but said a single motor controls both ORVMs, and hence, the power divided is not even. Didn't make much sense to me but one thing he said was if one ORVM becomes faulty or damaged both will have to be replaced.

Originally Posted by UrbanRider

Same thing happens with me as well, no idea why? My parking is covered parking and may be GPS is not reachable?

My parking isn't covered but I faced the same issue. I think when the car travels a lot the gps takes a few hours to stabilise. I think this a MG problem as my Ather also has a JIO sim but never faced this issue.

[jashjacob]

Originally Posted by Ashwathama

Yes it is 0.4kwh less than what the charger states but I am charging above 80% maybe that's why.

If the input supply voltage is cleaner from the E.B., then it should do better.



Around 7.086 kW - The highest I have seen from my 7.4kW Charger.

[Alive2Drive]

Hi all,

A very close friend of mine is looking for Windsor EV top model in Delhi/NCR. Any leads who can help get the car sooner for delivery will be highly appreciated.

Regards,

[racer-85]

Originally Posted by Ashwathama

My parking isn't covered but I faced the same issue. I think when the car travels a lot the gps takes a few hours to stabilise. I think this a MG problem as my Ather also has a JIO sim but never faced this issue.

Hi Aswathama. Congrats on your T Green Windsor, looks amazing. I have MG Hector plus & the ismart app works 95% of the time & the data is updated real time, more often than not. Only when the Sim signal is weak (Airtel sim in my case) it doesn't update & shows blank data for a certain period of time & then updates later.

I have a couple of queries. Earlier you had reservations about the rear suspension being stiff. How does the rear suspension feel. Are you satisfied with it or do you think it needs significant improvement (asking the question as even i have the same reservation).

Also you said you have open parking (same in my case). How do you plan to charge the vehicle overnight - like if there is a short drizzle or sudden burst of rain while charging the vehicle, what would you do, how do you prepare for such situation. I know this is a general question but I just want to know what is the SOP in such cases. Also are you not worried about open parking for an EV with respect to Rain & heat. I know Batteries are water resistant rated but i have read threads on teambhp itself where a ZS EV was parked in outdoor in rain with no water logging & still the battery went Kaput & warranty denied. One of the main reasons i am holding back on EV purchase is because of the open parking situation. If anyone could guide me on this with respect to Do's & Don'ts & share their experiences, that would be really helpful. Thanks

[Ashwathama]

Originally Posted by racer-85

I have a couple of queries. Earlier you had reservations about the rear suspension being stiff. How does the rear suspension feel. Are you satisfied with it or do you think it needs significant improvement (asking the question as even i have the same reservation).

I am quite satisfied with the suspension. I have had no complaints about the rear suspension, nor did my family. They have had a comfortable ride at the back. I drove it on a bumpy road with potholes, and I was fine with it. You can say it is slightly stiff but not to the point where it becomes a roller coaster and the ride becomes awful. To be honest, someone on the thread rightly said, it matters which car you come from. I have come from an i20 so obviously this feels amazing. Someone coming from a Land Rover will definitely complain.

Originally Posted by racer-85

Also you said you have open parking (same in my case). How do you plan to charge the vehicle overnight - like if there is a short drizzle or sudden burst of rain while charging the vehicle, what would you do, how do you prepare for such situation.

See the best way is to plan your charging but what I did for my Ather 450X was use a huge tarp 8mx4m tarp. I also brought a roll of bubble wrap and wrapped the entire wire from the charger to the edge of socket. I wrapped like seven layers of the bubble wrap just incase of angular rain. My Ather was charging the entire rainy season for 5 hours straight and I faced no problem at all. No drop of water anywhere. I do have to mention that only using a bubble wrap is not at all advisable. A tarp is a must. It's basically like a car cover but for your charger. For the Windsor one huge tarp above the car will simply do the job. But that has to be at least 8-10 meters in length and 4-6 meters in width, else angular rain will be a problem.

Originally Posted by racer-85

Also are you not worried about open parking for an EV with respect to Rain & heat. I know Batteries are water resistant rated but i have read threads on teambhp itself where a ZS EV was parked in outdoor in rain with no water logging & still the battery went Kaput & warranty denied.

I purchased a car cover which I am going to use during rains. Also, I got the windsor ceramic coated just for an added layer of protection. For a test, I left it unwashed for the last three days. The dust and water just glided off the car when I used water. They don't stick to the paint. I will attach a couple of photos from today morning post the wash.

After talking to many people the best and most common advise I got for washing the car was to use a pressure washer but on the low power fountain-shower mode, the mode used to spray car shampoo. The spread and pressure is very gentle to wash away the dust off the car. After that just use a 500gsm cloth to wipe the car. That's it. This can be conducted every 2-3 days if you live in a very dusty area and do not use a car cover. For the tire areas you can use the powerful pressure of the pressure washer as mud is usually stuck there. Incase, the car gets very dirty, like in rainy seasons or off roading only then use a shampoo. Else washing the car twice a week with the above method should do just fine. I have a friend who washes the Nexon with the above method daily for the last three years. His vehicle looks new even today without any paint chippings or discoloration. I have planned to use the above method thrice a week as my problem is only dust.

[racer-85]

Originally Posted by Ashwathama

See the best way is to plan your charging but what I did for my Ather 450X was use a huge tarp 8mx4m tarp. I also brought a roll of bubble wrap and wrapped the entire wire from the charger to the edge of socket. I wrapped like seven layers of the bubble wrap just incase of angular rain. My Ather was charging the entire rainy season for 5 hours straight and I faced no problem at all. No drop of water anywhere. I do have to mention that only using a bubble wrap is not at all advisable. A tarp is a must. It's basically like a car cover but for your charger. For the Windsor one huge tarp above the car will simply do the job. But that has to be at least 8-10 meters in length and 4-6 meters in width, else angular rain will be a problem.

Sounds great. Could you please attach some pictures of the tarp & bubble wrap if you don't mind, that's certainly a thing I haven't seen before. Are you not worried about water entering the charging port area while charging in rain in outdoor conditions. I have no intentions of scaring you but just asking thoughts running in my mind, apologies if I did. Does the above method work for windsor too (charging in rain)?

The T Green color especially with that ceramic coating looks top notch.

[Ashwathama]

Originally Posted by racer-85

Sounds great. Could you please attach some pictures of the tarp & bubble wrap if you don't mind, that's certainly a thing I haven't seen before.

So, I have removed the tarp as aesthetically, it doesn't look great, and it isn't needed except for the rainy season. I call my usual helper once a year and get it installed before the rains. I will attach a picture of what the tarp and bubble wrap look like. You must have seen it used in large exhibitions, stockyards, and political rallies. If you look closely, you will see that the tarp has holes. Use it to tie ropes on all four ends and create a roof above your vehicle. Just make sure the tarp is slightly slanted; water will accumulate at the center of the tarp, and you will have to push it aside manually. Also, the ropes should be tight to flatten the entire tarp, and the tarp waves in the wind. So in short, this acts like a large plastic roof above your vehicle. This should protect the Windsor entirely from rain. For added safety, you can use the bubble wrap multiple times all around the charging wire till the edge of the socket. That makes it waterproof.

Originally Posted by racer-85

The T Green color, especially with that ceramic coating, looks top-notch.

I never did ceramic coating before this. I always thought it was a waste of money and a technique used by dealerships to make the customer shell out money. My cousin suggested to go for it. We made the payment three days before delivery to get the coated car on the delivery day. My father and I regretted the decision for those three days and felt we wasted our money. We were like, instead of spending money on ceramic coating, we should have spent repainting our old car. But when I saw it on delivery day, it changed my mind. More than some slightly added shine, I noticed that the entire surface became very smooth to the point where dust and water didn't stick. They glided off. On the delivery day, I felt the surface of my car and other Windsors standing there. There was a noticeable roughness upon touching other cars, whereas the hand glided in mine. After bringing it home, I didn't wash the car for three days as a test. The dust on the car's surface was behaving as if it were on some glass. Just gliding off on touch. So, the car's surface is now acting like a piece of glass. When I sprayed water, the dust just got washed away instantly instead of getting wet and sticking to the surface.

Below is a picture of how the car looked on the day of PDI without the coating and accessories and how it looked on the post the coating. Of course, the lighting may make you feel some difference, but these are all outdoor pictures that are completely untouched. That's also a thing I noticed with the T. Green Windsor, it looks different in different lighting conditions which I really liked. The PDI one was brought out straight from a wash. The coated one was unwashed and dusty for two days when I clicked the picture. Wish I could show you all the HDR photos

[CarCanvas]

Originally Posted by Ashwathama

I asked the executive who visited my home for a follow-up. He didn't have a concrete answer but said a single motor controls both ORVMs, and hence, the power divided is not even. Didn't make much sense to me but one thing he said was if one ORVM becomes faulty or damaged both will have to be replaced.

Is Windsor ORVM Biker Friendly? ie. it safely turns around other side on impact like it is in Honda cars and preventing breakage. Nothing such mentioned in official TBHP review.

[bhargav_dave]

We finally took the delivery of our Windsor (Mr. Wu) last week. It has been pretty hectic so had no chance to upload the pics until now.

It has been a pretty interesting experience as the dealership screwed up several times in the journey but eventually got us the car around 10 days later than when they should have. Here is the experience from booking to delivery.

Prebooking:

I was actually not in the market for another EV as we already have a Tiago EV. But I chanced upon Windsor while driving past the showroom and fell in love with the car. It had all the gadgets and features that I loved and more than anything the SPACE. It had oodles of it and exactly where we needed. As it will be used in the city mostly to drive me to work and then family car over the weekend with our golden retriever.

We compared it with Atto, E Max7, Curvv EV and Kia EV6. When it came down to the price-performance comparison nothing came close. Especially for the space we needed.

We went for the top model as I wanted the ventilated seats and all the other gadgets. This was going to be a company car.

Booking:

Booking was done in mid Nov by my office and was not a big hassle. We were told that we will get the car mostly in the new year.

Pre-delivery:

We suddenly got a call from the dealership around 12th December that we could get the car mid Dec (they promised 18-22). We of course said yes. This is where things started to go wrong. We got the finance arranged and made the payment as per dealership's confirmation. However, some "miscommunication" internally meant we did not get the car on the day it was promised. This has already been documented elsewhere in the thread so I won't elaborate further. After putting pressure, they made an "urgent" booking with MG and got the car manufactured and delivered on 30th Dec.

The dealership insisted and almost blackmailed by saying many times that my request for "direct insurance" has been denied! Which was laughable and I put my foot down and said I will arrange my own. Their quote was close to 93k and we got it for 56k from Reliance. They relented in the end but lost interest in me completely after that.

Delivery:

Nothing special. They had the car ready and did the usual ceremony. We were given the demo and explained all the features. The clay beige looks absolutely amazing. Nothing like it on the roads.

It has done only a few trips around the city and not a full battery cycle so don't know the range just yet. Seems like it will do around 270-280.

Post Delivery:

The dealership has practically lost all interest. They didn't arrange a site survey until poked a few times. Still haven't installed the charger. We are just using Tiago's charger until now. Can't recommend Concept MG (SG Highway) to anyone. They just don't care.

Overall:

Very happy with the purchase overall. Already been stopped 3 times in traffic where people ask all sorts of questions and give compliments. Twice by Curvv EV owners exchanging notes on range etc.