[McLaren Rulez]

Originally Posted by Mitadru

The rear wiper is actually integrated into the spoiler like in Nexon EV. So rear wiper is present .

So does it have a rear wash and wiper? Many reviewers including this one say no - can someone take a photo?

[AnshumanS001]

Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

So does it have a rear wash and wiper? Many reviewers including this one say no - can someone take a photo?

No there is no wash and wipe in the rear confirmed by mg personnel yesterday and I personally ran my hand in the spoiler to confirm and double check on the wiper stock so no rear wiper and wash.

[vellatechie]

Spent sometime checking out Windsor today.

If this car was made by Hyundai or Maruti, I believe there would be a stampede in the showroom. The space inside makes even Hector look claustrophobic. Moon roof, reclining rear seats and how the interior is designed make the car seem 2X its size and price. Windsor is a no-nonsense VFM - SUVish EV.

[thomahawk]

Checked out the car today and came out disappointed. The rear seat didn't feel comfortable to me (I'm 6'). There is ample space on offer but the raised floor and lack of under thigh support ruined it for me. I feel older folks might find it difficult to get into the car as well. Closing the boot door also needs some effort - MG should have provided automatic option, since the car is packed otherwise.

The only question I had for the sales executive was about the lifetime quoted by MG for the lifetime* warrenty for battery - didn't get an answer though.

[electric.O]

There are talks of Delhi EV policy coming back in force, thus again making road tax for EV's Zero. I wish to purchase Winsdor EV only after such a change. Does anyone have an idea when this would happen?

Also, is it wise to wait for the 50KW version if I already own a Tiago.ev (which gives me around 180-200km range) or should i go for the 38KW version. My use case is Heavy City. I have driven my Tiago.ev 50k kms in 18 months. With all these bells and whistles in Windsor and the perfect space for a weekend getaway drive, i think a 50KW version might be the nudge to start taking EV's on highway.

TIA for guidance

[guptad42]

A request to test drivers: Can you check how does the Windsor behave on steeper slopes - while climbing up, and while going down a slope?

For example, I noticed a peculiar thing with Punch.ev. While going up, if I brake and bring it to a complete stop, it holds and does not inch back in reverse. But if I just let it slow down (without bringing to a complete stop) then it does start going down in reverse! That was scary especially for my better half who is returning to driving after a long gap. (In sports mode, the PUnch does seem to hold itself going up the slope.

I am hoping the Windsor is calibrated better. My preferred behaviour is like that of a good Torque Converter automatic. Does not slip back/go down at all while climbing up without any intervention from the driver, + does not race down a slope and holds a constant speed while climbing down.

[shikh_oberoi]

Originally Posted by guptad42

For example, I noticed a peculiar thing with Punch.ev. While going up, if I brake and bring it to a complete stop, it holds and does not inch back in reverse. But if I just let it slow down (without bringing to a complete stop) then it does start going down in reverse!

It's not a problem in the Punch but a feature- Hill hold function. Calibration is needed on your part

You have to completely stop the car for the feature to get activated. Try doing it again but it only holds the car for 2-3 seconds.

[amit_2025]

Originally Posted by electric.O

There are talks of Delhi EV policy coming back in force, thus again making road tax for EV's Zero. I wish to purchase Winsdor EV only after such a change. Does anyone have an idea when this would happen?

Also, is it wise to wait for the 50KW version if I already own a Tiago.ev (which gives me around 180-200km range) or should i go for the 38KW version. My use case is Heavy City. I have driven my Tiago.ev 50k kms in 18 months. With all these bells and whistles in Windsor and the perfect space for a weekend getaway drive, i think a 50KW version might be the nudge to start taking EV's on highway.

TIA for guidance

Someone in the knowhow tells us, very soon. Although one always needs to take these insights with a bag full of salt, but historically this guy has got it right most times

My suspicion is that the upcoming pollution season (or was it called winters earlier) will play a role and one of the actions showcased by the government would be the promotion of EV's by restoring the road tax waiver

It's actually funny, that like Delhihites would go to neighbouring cities for their favorite beverages, owing to the lower prices; they are now flocking them to buy EV's and Hybrids

On the 50KW version, we are in the same predicament. Along with the battery capacity, we are also keen on adaptive cruise control and powered tail gate as features that we are hoping the top variant gets, if MG decide to launch it of course

[Contrapunto]

The Windsor test drive will be offered only from the showroom, pre registration etc be damned. And of course the ONLY showroom in North Bangalore is still an hours drive away, on a good day. It’s also located in such a low rent location that there isn’t even space to park a scooter. I know. I was there yesterday.

Happy for your success MG. But if you want my money , you will have make some honest effort for it. I can wait, and there will be others.

[chiekennugget]

Hey everyone, checked out the MG Windsor today. We liked it a lot, and here is my perspective as someone with a Gloster in the family.

The hot (read: very important) stuff:
-> Battery as a subscription tenure is 8 years
-> Customer has to use the car for a minimum of 3 years before opting out of BaaS. Some extra amount has to be paid, the salesman was not sure how much.
-> There will be a price hike in some part of October (according to the salesman)

Miscellaneous stuff:
-> Test drives will start the day after tomorrow
-> Apparently 400 people have booked the Windsor so far (only for RAAM MG Hyderabad, take it with a grain of salt)
-> No 50KwH variant for this car even in the future. Reserved for something else

Initial impressions

The display car was outside the showroom. The one we saw was in black, and it had only 1 accessory attached between the headlights. This meant the car looked very "low key" and pretty.

Did not take a lot of pictures, only stuff I thought was important as other BHPians have contributed better ones.

Keys

The keys had a nice heft to them. Feel better than the Gloster keys

Exterior

Looks pretty. It is simple. I like it a lot.

The headlights and taillights have a very cool pattern in them. I could not see if the MG logo was illuminated or not because of the sunlight.


These wheels look great! I feel Gloster and Hector's wheels are overdone.


The pop up door handles look very cool, they will attract a lot of people for sure.

Interior

This was the part I was most excited about. The interior is very well done, everything is high quality and the use of soft touch is good. Nothing felt cheap, every button had a nice strong click to it.

There was a lot of distance between the dashboard and the windshield, big enough to build a nice house, hehe.



Screen: It was HUGE. The resolution was fantastic too, and no input delay. My only problem is with the reflections, I used to have a glossy screen on my old laptop and it was awful. I can not imagine driving around with something like that. (screen darkened in the picture, but trust me it looks fantastic)



All of the functions are embedded into the screen, wish MG provided more buttons.

The 360-degree camera is insane. The resolution was incredible.


AC controls were placed below the screen, they were nice. Can't comment on the speed of the A/C as it was already switched on by the time we got in, and it was decently cool.

Steering wheel

It has minimal buttons, rose gold accent looks perfect.
The screen is of good clarity but the UI would look good on a 2012 tablet but, not a 19L car.

The door cards looked good, I like the way the handle has been integrated. The ambient lighting around the speaker is tasteful.

Storage

There was so much usable storage. The bottle holders looked like they could hold a 1L bottle (unlike our Gloster).

My favourite has to be the one below, the cover feels sturdy and built to last.

Seats

I was pretty disappointed, they look extremely comfy but did not feel all that comfortable. I would not point it out as an issue, long distance trips are completely fine, but expected a lot more since it was the highlight of the advertising campaign.

The Gloster seats are fantastic (no comparison) but, I am not comparing the Windsor with it. I am comparing the seats with our i20.



The design on the fabric is impressive and has been executed with competence that would be expected from a European car company.

Sunroof

It extends all the way to the back and lets a lot of light into the car. I have a feeling that it is smaller than the one on the Gloster. The Windsor has a thicker cover (rough guess, still have to measure it).



We never had any issues (read: letting too much light in (or) screwing with the temperature inside) with the cloth cover on our car, no issues can be expected on the Windsor.

Pricing

Attaching the price sheet below



My father thinks the pricing is fair and likes the car a lot.

Overall, I wish MG all the best. This car is going to push every other company to do something new for sure. Never hurts to have too many options.

[antz.bin]

I have been thinking long and hard about the Windsor.

It has the equipment equivalent to the best of the Creta segment (minus ADAS).

It is as fast as the fastest cars in the C2 segment.

Its interior is comparable to an Innova in terms of spaciousness. It is miles ahead of its own sibling, the ZS which is over 4 lakh more expensive.

It has adequate power for the segment.

It has more cargo room than anything else in C2 segment.

It's price starts from the price of Punch.EV LR (without even considering the BaaS). The cheapest Creta AT is 4 lakh more than the most expensive Windsor.

All these positives bring me to the question, where is the catch? Because there always is since this looks too good to be true.

The last time I really liked a car so much, it was the Seltos. And then it turned out that the Seltos was rated just 3* in crash tests. The Windsor right now is the top candidate to replace our 2 family cars (Civic and Logan) and this absence of a known catch leads me to believe that it could be the Crash test rating again.

Can anyone dig around the Chinese webspace to figure out if this is adequately safe? MG (and Chinese cars in general) for now has had an excellent track record with Crash safety for its other products. I really hope the Windsor doesn't screw this one up.

Edit:

That reminds me, I know the 3 rear occupants get 3 point seat belts. But do they get weight sensors or did they cheap this one out? In the review videos, I saw that the seat belts were unbuckled so I have a good feeling about this.

Rear Seat belt alarm is a feature on my list of "I would pay extra to remove" if it doesn't come with weight sensors.

[VWAllstar]

Originally Posted by antz.bin

I have been thinking long and hard about the Windsor.

What is your use case? Have you done any analysis with regards to Windsor Batterry being same as the ones on Tata? Tata EVs are plagued with issues, do you foresee those could spill over to Windsor as well?

Originally Posted by antz.bin

It has the equipment equivalent to the best of the Creta segment (minus ADAS).
It is as fast as the fastest cars in the C2 segment
It's interior is comparable to an Innova in terms of spaciousness. It is miles ahead of its own sibling, the ZS which is over 4 lakh more expensive.

Miles ahead with regards to ZS EV for the internal space? There is a big reason why ZS EV is 4 Lakhs expensive. The bigger and better battery over Windsor.

Originally Posted by antz.bin

It has adequate power for the segment.It has more cargo room than anything else in C2 segment.It's price starts from the price of Punch.EV LR (without even considering the BaaS). The cheapest Creta AT is 4 lakh more than the most expensive Windsor.

It is a tempting proposition over Creta and other less than 20 Lakhs SUV.

Originally Posted by antz.bin

All these positives bring me to the question, where is the catch? Because there always is since this looks too good to be true.

The last time I really liked a car so much, it was the Seltos. And then it turned out that the Seltos was rated just 3* in crash tests. The Windsor right now is the top candidate to replace our 2 family cars (Civic and Logan)

Just like you, I haven't seen a better car than Windsor in the last one decade. Even the Seltos did not make my jaw drop like Windsor did. The one con I feel is that driving Windsor would feel like driving a people carrier. I like Sedans and most times I am alone in the car. Driving my Vento alone makes me feel as if I am carrying another car behind so you can imagine the same feeling * 2 when driving the Windsor.

[antz.bin]

Originally Posted by VWAllstar

What is your use case?

Mostly city usage. Not many highway trips. This is for my brother, not me. The most likely highway trip is from Nashik to Pune (< 250 km) and back (not the same day). Charging will be available on either end.

Originally Posted by VWAllstar

Have you done any analysis with regards to Windsor Batterry being same as the ones on Tata? Tata EVs are plagued with issues, do you foresee those could spill over to Windsor as well?

That remains to be seen. But the fact that there is no recommendation seen from MG to slow-charge the Windsor once after a max of 3 fast charges gives me hope.

The Windsor is a Born EV skateboard platform. It is at least a generation ahead of Tata's latest and greatest. Something like a Tata Avinya concept competes with it. I don't think Tatas have the technological capability yet of competing with this product or else they wouldn't have screwed up the Curvv so badly.

Originally Posted by VWAllstar

Miles ahead with regards to ZS EV for the internal space? There is a big reason why ZS EV is 4 Lakhs expensive. The bigger and better battery over Windsor.

To be very fair, the BaaS plans have given us a very good idea on the battery prices. The bigger battery on the ZS explains just 1 lakh rupees. Windsor with the 4.5 lakh rupee 50 kWh battery will still end up being 3.5 lakh cheaper than a ZS.

Originally Posted by VWAllstar

Just like you, I haven't seen a better car than Windsor in the last one decade. Even the Seltos did not make my jaw drop like Windsor did. The one con I feel is that driving Windsor would feel like driving a people carrier. I like Sedans and most times I am alone in the car. Driving my Vento alone makes me feel as if I am carrying another car behind so you can imagine the same feeling * 2 when driving the Windsor.

I haven't been able to see the car in person yet but I believe that EVs shouldn't be judged by the same beauty standards as we do ICE cars.

There is absolutely no need for a big bulky bonnet on an EV and waste space on a puny Frunk when that space could be provided inside the passenger compartment instead.

Designing a born EV exterior like they did on the Ioniq 5 is like designing a 1920s ICE car with space to attach horses. Clearly the horses were not needed, the design of the carriages evolved quite a bit in these 100yrs.

All said and done, if only they would have launched the MG4 and not this, the looks issue would have been solved for good .

[Jekyl87]

Originally Posted by chiekennugget

The display car was outside the showroom. The one we saw was in black, and it had only 1 accessory attached between the headlights. This meant the car looked very "low key" and pretty.

Thank you for a detailed post. Agree with most of your comments. However, I might be mistaken but could see the other accessories in your photos. One is the black glossy triangle highlighter above the pic of the tail light. The other is the body moulding on the side. I could also see the bumper edge protector chrome little arrow in one of them.

I checked out the car at a showroom here in Delhi too, but that also had all the accessories like the media drive cars. Really want to see a non-accessorised car to decide on the final accessories to get.

[ThatsOkToo]

Originally Posted by electric.O

My use case is Heavy City. I have driven my Tiago.ev 50k kms in 18 months. With all these bells and whistles in Windsor and the perfect space for a weekend getaway drive, i think a 50KW version might be the nudge to start taking EV's on highway.

TIA for guidance

I don't think so 50kw version of the windsor will cost any less than the current version , any trustworthy carmaker like MGwould mark up a bigger battery by 25% to 30% on current price. 38kw should suffice city heavy usage. FYI in Mumbai,i have booked essence.