[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by sri_tesla

Even with those discounts for Nexon EV, the base Curvv EV at Rs 17.5 lakhs is a better choice because of faster DC charging, and better range due to the bigger battery. Also, even the base Currv EV is well-equipped.

Though base Curvv is well equipped, the top model Nexon.EV vs base Curvv.EV has a lot of feature differences. The major of them being the 360 camera, Infotainment system with JBL speakers and the alloy wheels. The only thing positive for base Cruvv.EV is larger battery than top model Nexon.EV

[Ragav]

Curvv EV especially with the bigger 55kWh battery pack seems to be a complete car for a young family IMO. My reasonings:

Aerodynamics: Due to the sloping design, the design seems to be optimised as much for the Indian scenario. The ground clearance being an important factor, keeping the aesthetics aside (I personally like it), the aerodynamic sloping roof which eliminates the rear low pressure zone and the kink just above the Tata logo seems to be dedicated to aero efficiency rather than pure style. Comparing the styling, its more closer to model Y and Prius in the side and rear while front bulk which I am unsure whether it is because of the shared components with Nexon or if it is due to the ground clearance and overall height if it is bulky. I expect the overall efficiency of this vehicle to be higher in highway scenarios which is to be seen in detailed tests in the future. Tata didn’t seem to advertise/present its Cd (Drag Coefficient) during its launch and feel its a big missed opportunity(I like Mahindras style of giving a technical walkthrough) being of high importance to electric vehicles. There is a high probability that Curvv is the most aerodynamically efficient SUV in the world reason being as follows: Efficiency is proportional to both Cd and frontal area. The most aerodynamically efficient SUV seems to be Nio EL7 (according to google) which has a Cd of 0.263 and frontal area (A) of 3.4 sq.m. Cd x A = 0.894. While for Tesla Model Y, Cd x A =0.738 (for some reason internet doesn’t think model Y is a SUV). My guess for Cd of CURVV is around 0.3 and taking its dimensions Cd x A = 0.787 which is very close to Teslas Model Y. In case the Cd is any lower than 0.3, would be a good marketing foothold which claims the most aero efficient SUV.



Dimensions & Space: With space on our road, parking situation and potholes (in the place where I live atleast), if I have to select a single car to live with, my constrains become minimum of 180 mm GC, narrow (Curvv though is comparatively wider - a good compromise for stabilty), good stability in the highway speeds, space for 2 adults + 2 kids and occasionally can carry 4 adults, decent luggage room and good space in the front row (at 5’ 11” and an unusual driving position that I like - my wife calls it a sleeping position). Also, for young families I am guessing this can act a good primary car till the kids grow up atleast.

Interior: I got a feeling the interior is made as simple as possible for Tata such that they can avoid persisting issues like uneven gaps and fit and finish issues. I would really like to think with the simplified interior - just a screen, touch panel controls for AC, steering wheel and door panel now being common among all the Tata cars almost, it is time the QA team can really drill down on niggling issues. Also from a customer stand point, the simple interiors might age well as we wont see much of the aging buttons etc and really just updating the infotainment overtime (OTA updates) can keep the interiors well for atleast half a decade. Gloss black may need some protection films though.

Range & Powertrain: At 55 kWh, this seems to be the first of the fully Indian cars which can actually be the only car at home. My usual long drives from Coimbatore is to Ooty, Chennai, Bengaluru, Cochin and occasionally will do Tirupati, Kanyakumari maybe - so a maximum of 600km one way. All these, as I was checking on Google Maps revealed the charging infrastructure is quite developed - meaning can have upto 2 or 3 chargers as backup if the initial one is faulty. Cruising at safe speeds of 90-120 on these highways, in my opinion would still return a range of 360 which makes the trip totally hassle free as we just have to find one charging station with good food nearby and if staying overnight, an adaptor (even a 15 amps socket - resting 10 hours and SoC with safety being 25% could juice it upto 75% overnight) and trips can be super cost efficient. I think the instant torque to overtake on highways/hills and no gear changing inside city are big bonuses.

Issues: 1) High rear window line - Being a family focused car IMO for small kids, the high window line limits visibility - same is the issue in my Altroz. I believe Jimny’s window line is best suited for kids and would enjoy travelling in it. 2) A lack of cup holder in higher end variants is a blunder. I was seeing some video of Innova Crysta having so many. I am sure Tata could have engineered a foldable one easily. I also believe these are still forgivable with aftermarket cupholder (not sure where to fit though) and booster seat setup even for bigger kids.

My Verdict : Tata has ensured they attack the 4.3m segment strategically 1) Curvv - self driven individuals/families and 2) Sierra - for chauffeur driven. Curvv with its very functional design (I strongly think so because I believe aero is a prime functionality for EVs) for young families is good product which will do really average numbers (owing to lot of us who feel - just bigger on the inside is better) but in addition to Sierra will cement decent numbers for Tata in the 4.3m category.

PS: My first time writing on Teambhp. I am a Tata fanboy sort of. In the family, we have an Altroz, my dad initially had the Sierra (which we still have doing farm duties) when were kids, then had a Indica which did the school duty and mom drove mainly, then a Safari (also had a 800, Honda City and a Vento). My dad moved from a Vento (when it was nearing 1 lac km and having an impending big service) and took the EV plunge with the Tiago EV which he’s enjoying. Covered almost 40,000 km in less than a year and but for small service issues has been quite good. He has done quite some blog worthy stuff which I will post in the future maybe. I am planning to take the EV plunge with the Curvv EV soon. My sister’s family too have just Tatas - Hexa and Nexon EV

[TusharK]

Tata Curvv.ev deliveries commence across India

Tata Motors has commenced deliveries of its latest electric SUV, the Curvv.ev, across India.



The Curvv.ev was launched on August 7. The electric SUV is available in 7 variants, with prices starting at Rs 17.49 lakh (ex-showroom).

The Curvv.ev is equipped with a 12.3-inch touchscreen infotainment, a 10.2-inch digital instrument cluster, a 4-spoke steering wheel with an illuminated Tata logo, a 6-way power adjustable driver seat, ventilated front seats, reclining rear seats, customisable mood lighting, a panoramic sunroof, a 9-speaker JBL sound system, and a gesture-controlled electric tailgate.

The Tata Curvv.ev is available with two battery options: 45 kWh or 55 kWh, offering a range of 502 km and 585 km (ARAI certified), respectively. Both versions are powered by a single electric motor. The 45 kWh version packs 148 BHP and 215 Nm, while the 55 kWh version has 165 BHP and 215 Nm.

According to the company, the batteries can be recharged from 10-80% in 40 minutes using a 70 kW charger. The car also supports Vehicle to Load (V2L) and Vehicle to Vehicle (V2V) charging at up to 3.3 kVA and 5 kVA, respectively.

Link to Team-BHP news

[shyampsunder]

Originally Posted by Ragav

Range & Powertrain: At 55 kWh, this seems to be the first of the fully Indian cars which can actually be the only car at home. My usual long drives from Coimbatore is to Ooty, Chennai, Bengaluru, Cochin and occasionally will do Tirupati, Kanyakumari maybe - so a maximum of 600km one way. All these, as I was checking on Google Maps revealed the charging infrastructure is quite developed - meaning can have upto 2 or 3 chargers as backup if the initial one is faulty. Cruising at safe speeds of 90-120 on these highways, in my opinion would still return a range of 360 which makes the trip totally hassle free as we just have to find one charging station with good food nearby and if staying overnight, an adaptor (even a 15 amps socket - resting 10 hours and SoC with safety being 25% could juice it upto 75% overnight) and trips can be super cost efficient. I think the instant torque to overtake on highways/hills and no gear changing inside city are big bonuses.

As someone whose home town is Coimbatore and frequently drives between Bangalore, Coimbatore and Chennai in my ZS EV, you are spot on. But will add a couple of points that may help you:

1. Use Plugshare to get a good idea of the charging infra, the charging infra between Bangalore and Coimbatore is some of the best in the country with roughly 20 - 30 high quality DC chargers present on this route. But do prioritise high speed DC chargers (60+ kW) because they make a huge difference in terms of charging time for cars like the ZS EV and the Curvv. Also prioritise locations with multiple chargers, it's only recently that such options have come up.

2. Do wait for some initial real world ownership reviews of the Curvv. The high voltage critical error is not rare in the current lot of Tata EVs. Significant number of Tata EVs face it. Using your EV for long drives requires you to have 100% faith in the car. It's one thing to manage and plan around DC charging infra, another thing altogether if you can't trust your car. I sincerely hope Tata has sorted this piece out.

You are also perfectly right that driving on hills is amazing on EVs. All the fun without costs, recently did a yercaud hill climb. Once you account for the downhill run, the efficiency of the car is same as driving on plains which pleasantly surprised me.

[santosh.s]

Does it sound like a good news for Curvv regarding concerns about battery issues?

https://m.economictimes.com/industry.../112853236.cms

[MclarenBoii]

Originally Posted by santosh.s

Does it sound like a good news for Curvv regarding concerns about battery issues?

https://m.economictimes.com/industry.../112853236.cms

I mean not really. They're simply diversifying their battery suppliers, which is always a good thing.

If it's the China angle, let's not kid ourselves: the Chinese are the leaders in the EV space, at every single link in the supply chain.

[DIY410]

Originally Posted by santosh.s

Does it sound like a good news for Curvv regarding concerns about battery issues?

https://m.economictimes.com/industry.../112853236.cms

Octillion doesn't make battery cells but they make a battery pack. They have experience in making battery packs with cylindrical cells. So this may help Tata with all the HV error issues in future EVs.

[Vikram9193]

Originally Posted by Ragav

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Lovely first post! My dad also had a Sierra. Looking at this set of photos, the Curvv looks like it desperately needs lowering springs

[TorqueIndia]

Have 100km top up in 15mins, CURVV EV at a 60KW charger.

Tesla club

[elevator]

Originally Posted by linuxworld

3) Few weeks back I got dedicated ev meter costing 12k (includes everything) with 7.5kw sanction load on single phase. And that too in Pune.

Thanks, how did you approached MSEB, applied online or visited office ?
I'm checking on mseb site, it shows some options like non industrial, industrial, electric charging station, but I couldn't find any load requirement field.

[sharathkamath04]

Originally Posted by TorqueIndia

Have 100km top up in 15mins, CURVV EV at a 60KW charger.
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Tesla club

This is the best upgrade on Curvv. 1.2C charging (from 0.7C) earlier means I can now get a 20% charge for every 10min (it was 10% for 10min with other Tata EVs).

With a 400km real range, a breakfast/lunch break can add 60% SOC or a 200km range. I hope the next Gen Nexon, Punch, Tiago, and Tigor will come with a 1.2C DC charging speed.

[kgt.v8]

Any ideas on when is Curvv.ev test drives are going to start?
I have checked with 3 major dealerships - PrathamMalik, Select Motors and Tejaswi. All of them have a Curvv.ev on display but none for test drive. In my past test drives, I have seen dealerships bringing cars costing above ₹20lakh without temporary registration plates. I wonder why these display cars cannot be used for test drives or Is there a directive from Tata Motors to not start the test drives.
One of the sales person seemed frustrated as he did not have any clear date when the test drive could start. I feel this could be because of lack of clarity of test drive dates, he is not able to add his sales incentive and convert show room visit to an actual sale.

On the other hand, Hyundai has started to create hype with Alcazar launch and yesterday I saw 2 YouTubers who posted video of Alcazar shell and Alcazar assembly from Hyundai factory. YouTube reviewers still keep uploading Roxx their reviews every couple of days since 16th August launch, so that interested people still remember the September mid date when test drives start.

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

Any ideas on when is Curvv.ev test drives are going to start?

The test drive vehicle is available in Gurugram. I think it will be an issue of delivery of vehicles vs retaining a test drive car. If the demand is high, dealer will be selling all the vehicles.

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

Any ideas on when is Curvv.ev test drives are going to start?
In my past test drives, I have seen dealerships bringing cars costing above ₹20lakh without temporary registration plates. I wonder why these display cars cannot be used for test drives or Is there a directive from Tata Motors to not start the test drives.

There have been instances where the RTO has cracked down on test drive vehicles without registration as the showrooms have to designate certain vehicles as test drive cars with a special number designated that they could later sell off as test drive cars. Maybe because of this reason the cars are not been given out for test drives.

[elevator]

Today, I took a test drive of the Curvv EV in Pune. The sales associate arranged the test drive at my home, here are my impressions:

Ride Comfort and Handling:

- The suspension was noticeably softer than the Nexon, providing a more comfortable ride. It wasn't as bouncy as the MG ZS EV, which I preferred.
- I've found regen braking to be intrusive in most EVs, so I turned it off.

Range and Performance:

- Driving 15.7 km (70% city, 30% highway) with regen off and in Sport mode, I achieved 154 Wh/km.
- While not as quick as the ZS EV, the Curvv EV felt adequately powerful for everyday driving.

ADAS and Technology:

- The ADAS system was not overly intrusive, but it did trigger lane departure warnings on roads without clear lane markings.
- I found it frustrating that the ADAS settings reset every time I started the car, requiring manual adjustments.
- The AVAC sound can be permanently turned off.

Interior and Comfort:

- Rear seat passengers, including my 5'10" son, found sufficient headroom and legroom.
- Ingress and egress were easy, even for my 63-year-old mother.
- The rear seat height was slightly lower than my Celerio, but thigh support was acceptable.

Battery Warranty and Insurance:

- The SA mentioned that zero-depreciation insurance doesn't cover the battery in case of an accident. An additional battery cover may cost around 5-6k.

Overall:
My family and I enjoyed our test drive of the Curvv EV. We appreciated its comfortable ride and decent performance.