[RahulNagaraj]

According to media reports, tech giant, Samsung, unveiled its latest battery technology at the SNE Battery Day 2024 Expo in Seoul, South Korea. The new battery technology comes in the form of a solid-state oxide battery specifically for EVs.

Samsung's new Solid-state EV batteries come with impressive claims, including a 20-year lifespan. The most impressive aspect though is that the batteries can hold around 500 kW per kilogram energy density -nearly double that found on EV batteries today. These high energy density capabilities, as per reports, should help EVs equipped with Samsung batteries to offer around 600 miles (965 km) of range on a single charge.



Another impressive feature is that Samsung claims its new battery tech is capable of charging completely in just 9 minutes. Although, this would require infrastructure with charging speeds of around 480 kW to 600 kW.

Reports also state that Samsung is already working with carmakers to incorporate its new tech in future EVs. The tech giant is said to have partnered with Toyota to begin mass production by 2027. Models from Toyota's premium sub-brand, Lexus could be the first to get the technology.

Source: NotebookCheck

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[Tech]

Good show by Samsung, they must be having the technology to give 2 minute charging and 3000 miles range but they will keep on giving minor updates to this 9 min/600 miles configuration every year to create revenue stream for the next 10 - 15+ years.

Like I said elsewhere that expect frequent disruptions in the EV space every 6 months which will make any EV investment seem worthless with huge drop in resale value and higher FOMO to get the latest technology every year.

5 L extra investment over any ICE and minimum 2-3 L fast drop in resale value will become the norm every year. What great days we used to have when we used to create excel sheets to see if 1.2L extra investment in diesel over petrol would make sense

Seems like nobody will work on my liked and focused area of self regenerative power because that will kill the cash inflow for these big brands.

[wocanak]

Originally Posted by Tech

Good show by Samsung, they must be having the technology to give 2 minute charging and 3000 miles range but they will keep on giving minor updates to this 9 min/600 miles configuration every year to create revenue stream for the next 10 - 15+ years.

There must be at least dozen companies working on advancing battery technology, are you saying that all of them are sitting on major advances but drip feeding them to maximise revenues or is it only Samsung which has this. The simpler explanation is no one has such technology and it is a real struggle to improve batteries.

Originally Posted by Tech

Like I said elsewhere that expect frequent disruptions in the EV space every 6 months which will make any EV investment seem worthless with huge drop in resale value and higher FOMO to get the latest technology every year.

Not so long ago this was the case with smartphones, every 6 months something significantly better will come and people were upgrading every 12 to 18 months. The party lasted for a few years, after that the replacement duration doubled and kept growing. People are keeping their smartphones for longer and longer. And most people don't know their phone specs, like camera megapixel, RAM or OS version.

I wish EV improve that fast, but it is no where close to that. Tata is still selling effectively the same battery with 0.7C charging for 4+ years. Once EVs hit ~600 kms real world high range and ~300 kms recharge in ~10 mins, very few will care about improvements beyond that.

If the Samsung batteries (or others') achieve this at reasonable price premium, then it is something to look forward to and welcome.

Originally Posted by Tech

minimum 2-3 L fast drop in resale value will become the norm every year.

Are you talking about Jimny, XUV 700, etc

Automotive industry (and many others) are cyclical, ups and downs are unavoidable.

[horseblood]

Brings to mind the following line from Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen):
♫♪♪ "Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?" ♫♪♪

To which Samsung might reply:
♫♪♪ "Open your eyes, look up to the (SK)ies and see" ♫♪♪


Wow! Seems too good to be true. We've been hearing about such lofty claims about battery related things for a while now (eg the Graphene hype a few years ago including its promise in batteries). So there's a reasonable time till it proves it's worth. There maybe some unexpected issues that might come up in that time being a gen1 product, which obviously would need to be ironed out.

But, again, Wow! Massive leap in every aspect.

Coupled with the Bajaj Freedom 125, could turn 2024 into a breakway year as far as mobility disruption is concerned.

Cheers!

[pram_ind]

Originally Posted by Tech

Like I said elsewhere that expect frequent disruptions in the EV space every 6 months which will make any EV investment seem worthless with huge drop in resale value and higher FOMO to get the latest technology every year.

5 L extra investment over any ICE and minimum 2-3 L fast drop in resale value will become the norm every year. What great days we used to have when we used to create excel sheets to see if 1.2L extra investment in diesel over petrol would make sense

The updated EV battery can also be swapped with older one. There is no need to change the whole car for the same.

The only component which gets changed is the BMS which is battery specific.

The battery configuation can be made to 400 or 800V architecture depending upon the car specs.