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Old 10th July 2024, 14:42   #16
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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

Bit disappointed in the pricing. I was expecting 21.99 are the base price. MGZS EV executive or excite pro makes more sense to me.
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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

The news article incorrectly mentions that the motor powers the rear axle. The Atto3 is a fwd vehicle. The power figure is also mentioned incorrectly as 201bhp.

Mods kindly make the corrections.
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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

What is the issue with tyres that people are talking about? Can anyone throw light?

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What is the issue with tyres that people are talking about? can anyone throw light?
Quality - Atlas Batman (offered in india - current owners can offer their views. Redit had too many complaints on this) Vs Continental Tyres (offered to rest of world with the upgrade).

Overall this launch feels like a minor cosmetic one for the superior model.
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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

Great to see an additional option from BYD but it seems to be at a loss with the import hit.
Somehow MG ZS still seems a better value for money than the BYD 50KWh.

If the MG would have brought the internationally available long range MG ZS to India as well then BYD would have had a tough time even with this spread.

As of now, the long version "Premium" would be still a preferred pick off BYD's lot.
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Great to see an additional option from BYD but it seems to be at a loss with the import hit.
Somehow MG ZS still seems a better value for money than the BYD 50KWh.

If the MG would have brought the internationally available long range MG ZS to India as well then BYD would have had a tough time even with this spread.

As of now, the long version "Premium" would be still a preferred pick off BYD's lot.
Comparing directly to ZS EV wouldn’t be fair as Atto 3 is based on pure EV platform. It has a big advantage when it comes to rear seat arrangement which offers proper under thigh support compared to ZS EV. So the premium over it is justified. But yes the Superior version could have been priced a bit low.
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I have often seen commercials on TV, where a BYD model is being projected as Mahindra's new Bolero. What does this mean - has Mahindra set up a joint venture with BYD to make this particular model? I find this misleading.

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The news article incorrectly mentions that the motor powers the rear axle. The Atto3 is a fwd vehicle. The power figure is also mentioned incorrectly as 201bhp.

Mods kindly make the corrections.
Thanks nmn.070, I have also seen adds projecting a model as the new Mahindra Bolero (see earier post). This seems to be misleading the public, since there is no re-joinder from Mahindra.

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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

One bit is confusing. As per the brochure, the power output of all 3 variants is exactly the same - 150kW with 310nm.

The Dynamic variant is considerably lighter at 1680kg instead of 1750kg.

Still the 0 to 100 km/hr is 7.9sec vs 7.3 sec for the premium and superior variant.

Why would that be? May be peak output is lower due to smaller battery? If that is the case, then the power-spec of motor is misleading.
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One bit is confusing. As per the brochure, the power output of all 3 variants is exactly the same - 150kW with 310nm.

The Dynamic variant is considerably lighter at 1680kg instead of 1750kg.

Still the 0 to 100 km/hr is 7.9sec vs 7.3 sec for the premium and superior variant.

Why would that be? May be peak output is lower due to smaller battery? If that is the case, then the power-spec of motor is misleading.
Did you miss the fact that the lower Dynamic variant comes in a smaller battery pack compared to Premium and Superior variants. Hence the lower kerb weight.

But Power output is same for all 3 variants.
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Did you miss the fact that the lower Dynamic variant comes in a smaller battery pack compared to Premium and Superior variants. Hence the lower kerb weight.

But Power output is same for all 3 variants.
Exactly. Hence it should be faster right (lower weight but same power)?
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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

Just noticed that Atto3 has a heat pump! Wow; they should market it properly as hardly anyone knows the benefit of the same. Other EVs in our market have resistive heat units which consume a lot of power in winters.
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Just noticed that Atto3 has a heat pump! Wow; they should market it properly as hardly anyone knows the benefit of the same. Other EVs in our market have resistive heat units which consume a lot of power in winters.
Yes, and this has been a standard equipment since the launch.
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Re: BYD Atto 3 to get a new entry-level variant with 50 kWh battery?

Hi, while pricing is not in line with my expectations, I feel the reasons for these prices are:

1. BYD is not expecting 1000+ units of sale per month even if they price it close to 21 lacs ex showroom due to their limited dealership (actually no dealership is most of the cities) & restricted supply / import. I think even after 50kW battery variant, monthly sale will remain to be closed to 175 to 200 units a month for Atto 3.

2. Atto 3 is bigger than MG ZS EV, and feature list of 50kW model is similar to MG ZS EV top models despite slightly bigger and modern than ZS EV, therefore, pricing it similar to ZS EV make sense.

3. I am not sure, but I think import duty on Atto 3 is more than Seal EV.

Atto 3 is an excellent product for the 50kW battery variant, rest two variants are expensive for what they offer.
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Just noticed that Atto3 has a heat pump! Wow; they should market it properly as hardly anyone knows the benefit of the same. Other EVs in our market have resistive heat units which consume a lot of power in winters.
Heat pump can heat up the battery using air conditioner compressor rather then a heater coil. This is usefull if you live in the north where temperature falls really low in winter, like single digit to below zero.

For rest of the country where its really hot, it won't make a difference.

Heat pump is just a regular air conditioner compressor with a external reversing valve, which reverses the flow of the refregerant to evaporator and condenser coil and vice versa.

But when heat pump is used to heat up the battery from sub zero freezing condition, it will take a lot more time to do this then a heating coil but will consume lesser energy.

Also for cabin heating, if it uses the heat pump it will save energy. Most of the EVs use heating coil and some of them do it like IC vehicles by using the heat produced from the motor, inverter and battery to heat up the cabin with the addition of heating coil.

But for EV owners in general, if you are driving alone or with a passenger in front seat. Its more efficient to use heated seat then to use the heating coil in the cabin blower.
Since the fuse rating of heated seat is 10A per seat while the blower is 40A.

The air conditioning compressor/heat pump on the other hand consumes upto 3 kW at maximum compressor speed, for a MG ZS the fuse is 10A but its a HV fuse.
Once it cools or heats up the cabin it will throttle down but it will still consume quite a lot more then say a heated seat.
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