[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Overall still having a great experience. 2 months, 3650 km - we have never had a car driven this much. Think usage will settle down now. Will keep you posted.

This is very interesting to read. I would love to read about your experiences driving up and down to hill stations and back.

[Hayek]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

This is very interesting to read. I would love to read about your experiences driving up and down to hill stations and back.

Please look at Post #7 in this thread. Climbing 600 m in 18 odd km used 35 units per 100 km of range. At that rate of climb, total range would have been just 200 km. I know you want to drive from Bangalore to Ooty on a single charge - but it does not make sense to do that. Even with the Ioniq, I would recharge at Mysore.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Please look at Post #7 in this thread. Climbing 600 m in 18 odd km used 35 units per 100 km of range. At that rate of climb, total range would have been just 200 km. I know you want to drive from Bangalore to Ooty on a single charge - but it does not make sense to do that. Even with the Ioniq, I would recharge at Mysore.

Oh wow. You have hit the nail right on the head.
If even the fabled Ioniq5 requires a top up prior to attacking the Sigur Ghats then I really have no words left.
I guess now one more way to deal with this, is to ask for a long test drive to test exactly this. But the chances of them obliging some random guy like me, are highly remote at best.
So I shall probably need to try to squizzle this sideways through some kind Auto Journo type of person. Or see if I can pull some strings with the Leadership/ Owners of some Hyundai Dealership.

[Seeler_Rebeiro]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Driving was immensely pleasurably - where traffic was light, it was a pleasure letting the car follow lane markings around curves with just a finger on the wheel.

It is a superbly convenient feature when roads are clear. Am assuming you used the adaptive cruise control with lane assistance...which automatically slows the car below the set speed if the leading car slows down, and picks up speed again.
One issue I encountered was at the toll naka (can't remember the exact sequence). I should have turned off adaptive cruise control. What happened was the cars ahead started clearing after toll collection, but the car immediately ahead of me was distracted and was moving slow. Suddenly, he noticed 6 to 8 cars ahead had cleared., so speed up only to stop at the barrier..
This caused the adaptive cruise control to pick up speed quickly and not enough time to brake..I had to apply brakes..was a bit scary.

Now I remember to turn it off of there is a traffic jam or such toll collection.

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Did another long highway drive last week. Had to go to Gujarat and decided to take the Ioniq 5. Charged up to 100% and the car showed a range of 578 km at start. Heavy traffic to work at BKC got range down to 561 km with 12 km of driving.

Excellent Statistics Hayek. I love this "real world" statistics from an owner rather than reading about it in some article. It's gives the correct perspective of the range. So if I understand correctly. I deciphered below :

100% Range : 578kms
1% Range : 5.78kms
You used 87% of battery to commute 370kms
1% range : 4.25 kms

You would have travelled another 55 kms with 13% residual battery. Here comes the real world range.

Hyundai claimed range : 578kms for 100% battery.

Real World: 370kms + 55kms : 425 kms.

This means claim vs. real world is a drop of approximately 28%. I reckon this applies to all EV's out there. Anyways, my usage is not for the range but, for its immense pleasure and heart-throbbing performance.

Keep Sharing and Enjoy the EV.

[Hayek]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Excellent Statistics Hayek.


Here comes the real world range.

Hyundai claimed range : 578kms for 100% battery.

Real World : 370kms + 55kms : 425 kms.

Thanks. Just one nuance. The claimed WLTP range is 481 km. The claimed ARAI range is 630 km. 578 km is what the vehicle was showing when I started - but that reflected previous drives - mainly in Bombay city conditions but perhaps not in super dense traffic.

Which is why one is better off looking at consumption per 100 km in the conditions you are in and dividing the battery capacity by that to estimate range rather than relying on what the car shows. But the 400 km highway range does give me the confidence to attempt a Goa trip perhaps later this year.

[shankar.balan]

@hayek
Some random queries. I am still studying and researching the Ioniq5 - car leasing, loan, subscription options etc.

1. How has your real life experience been with the Ground clearance of this vehicle?
2. Have you ever undergone any kind of underbody hit or ‘beaching’ on some of those mountains that cover the storm drain hume pipes?
3. Did your car come with Michelins too? Is there any ‘tyre flap’ on the highways?
4. Have you ever (God forbid) experienced a puncture? If yes how have you handled it?
5. Have you used the V2L function?
6. On highways have you experienced the typical sand lorry sand blasting or tyre-thrown-stones? If yes does the car show any signs?
7. People say the annual service is very likely the same as a German - say about 30-40K. What do your Hyundai Sales and Service persons say?
8. What do they say needs to be changed at every service?
9. How long are the Brake Pads likely to last?
10. And the Disc rotors?
11. They normally say this car comes with a 3 year warranty. And they recommend taking the Extended Warranty of additional 2 years for Rs 45K or so. What does this warranty cover?
12. The Electric Motor of course carries an 8 year or 160,000 km warranty. Wondering what the fine print is.

Sorry to be such a bug. But I’m keenly interested to learn more from a real life user like yourself.

[shyampsunder]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Oh wow. You have hit the nail right on the head.
If even the fabled Ioniq5 requires a top up prior to attacking the Sigur Ghats then I really have no words left.

Mysore now has a lot of DC charging options. Of particular interest for someone like you would be the Shell 120 KW DC charger that opened up couple of days ago on the road to Ooty from Mysore.

A 10 - 15 minutes top up while having coffee is more than enough to make the climb to Ooty.

Other chargers to have as backup is a Jio BP 80 kW and Zeon 60 kW in Mysore.

Do try them out if you are doing an extended test drive.

[d3mon]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Did another long highway drive last week. Had to go to Gujarat and decided to take the Ioniq 5.

Hi Hayek, had a question for you - we recently test drove a few cars including the Ioniq 5 and the Atto 3 on the same route (~30KM highways + 10km city) that's well known to us, with a full load of passengers.

All of us found the Ioniq to be extremely bouncy and uncomfortable on even the smallest of undulations on the highway, even at 100KMPH. At ~120KMPH, there was 1 undulation (nothing major) where the rear wheels literally bounced off the road altogether and we gave up trying to drive it at anything beyond 100KMPH, which seemed to be the upper limit of its suspension's capabilities on anything but a butter smooth road. This was the reason that my friend had to drop the idea of buying one, even though he was quite impressed by most other things.

Compared to that, the Atto 3 did not feel bouncy at all. Of course, it's soft and not a corner carver or an enthusiastic drive by any stretch of imagination, but at least the car felt a lot more confident and stable at higher speeds up to 140KMPH.

I'm wondering if you've driven with passengers in the rear seat, and if you've experienced this kind of bounciness from the rear?

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by shyampsunder

Of particular interest for someone like you would be the Shell 120 KW DC charger that opened up couple of days ago on the road to Ooty from Mysore.
Do try them out if you are doing an extended test drive.

Most kind. Thank you for the information.

Originally Posted by d3mon

Hi

All of us found the Ioniq to be extremely bouncy and uncomfortable on even the smallest of undulations on the highway, even at 100KMPH. At ~120KMPH, there was 1 undulation (nothing major) where the rear wheels literally bounced off the road altogether and if you've experienced this kind of bounciness from the rear?

I wonder if the Tyres of your test drive car were over inflated. Because when I test drove the Ioniq along with my Dad and 2 Sales personnel from the dealership on the bad and bumpy roads around my neighbourhood and in the environs of Bangalore including the Hosur Road, at various speeds we found the ride excellent and not at all bouncy. Indeed I commented how good the ride was, in my brief ‘impressions’ shared on the Forum.

[d3mon]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

I wonder if the Tyres of your test drive car were over inflated. Because when I test drove the Ioniq along with my Dad and 2 Sales personnel from the dealership on the bad and bumpy roads around my neighbourhood and in the environs of Bangalore including the Hosur Road, at various speeds we found the ride excellent and not at all bouncy. Indeed I commented how good the ride was, in my brief ‘impressions’ shared on the Forum.

Yes, they were properly inflated. The ride quality at city speeds was quite nice, as you said. It's only the stability at higher speeds that was quite disconcerting, and the bounciness can not be caused by under or overinflated tyres alone. The whole spring and damper system was at work when the bouncing happened at highway speeds. Do note we had 3 passengers in the back, so that would make a big difference too.

This reviewer complains about the bounciness at highway speeds. Watch from 22:52 to 24:06.

https://youtu.be/Hxf_hcijGNg?si=XtNwxBMFi5y93nx_&t=1373

[Hayek]

Originally Posted by d3mon

Hi Hayek - we recently test drove a Ioniq 5 on the same route (~30KM highways + 10km city) that's well known to us, with a full load of passengers.

All of us found the Ioniq to be extremely bouncy and uncomfortable on even the smallest of undulations on the highway, even at 100KMPH…. we gave up trying to drive it at anything beyond 100KMPH

I'm wondering if you've driven with passengers in the rear seat, and if you've experienced this kind of bounciness from the rear?

Have driven several times with a full load of passengers but never outside Bombay. We would not have crossed 100 kmph - but at those speeds, we did not find any issues with the suspension, even on bad roads like some of our flyovers with several expansion joints.

Have also touched higher speeds (where the beep became continuous) on my drives to Gujarat and Lonavala - but we never had a full load on those trips. We did have a rear passenger on one of those trips but she was a family friend and may have been too polite to complain even if the suspension was not great.

But at least in the front seat, we have found no problems even at high speeds (that said have never touched 140 with this car), and even with a full load, no problem at sub 100 kmph speeds.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by shyampsunder

Mysore now has a lot of DC charging options. Of particular interest for someone like you would be the Shell 120 KW DC charger that opened up couple of days ago on the road to Ooty from Mysore.
A 10 - 15 minutes top up while having coffee is more than enough to make the climb to Ooty.

I saw this fast charger set up at Shell Mysore today on my way up to Ooty. I haven’t bought an EV yet but I observed two cars doing exactly what you have mentioned. Short top up and on their way again.

The whole behaviour changes after buying an EV I think.

[shyampsunder]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

I saw this fast charger set up at Shell Mysore today on my way up to Ooty. I haven’t bought an EV yet but I observed two cars doing exactly what you have mentioned. Short top up and on their way again.

The whole behaviour changes after buying an EV I think.

Yes, with EVs it's best to do quick top ups and move on unless you are having a meal.

On my Coimbatore to Bangalore trips, it's always a charge to 80% while having breakfast which is enough to reach home but I do a quick 10 minute charging session at a Jio BP in Hosur which gets you 60 - 70 KMs of real world range which acts as an insurance/safety buffer to make it home with 20-25% of charge left.

Usually Jio BP stations on the highways don't have a restaurant attached which means they don't attract a lot of Tata EVs which take a long time to charge. So they are pretty much always free for cars like the ZS EV and Ioniq 5 which can accept a high DC charge and easily get 100+ KMs of real world range by charging for just 15 mins.

[shankar.balan]

I m in Ooty and I understand from a friend that this vehicle belongs to a friend of his. And apparently this has come up from Cochin to Ooty on one full charge.
Apparently also, when they tried to re-charge it locally at the Taj Savoy, it was able to charge only up to 58%.
No idea why.
Let me see if I can meet the owner myself and talk to him and learn a little more about his experience.